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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => Plug-ins => OnAlert => Topic started by: delibaker on October 03, 2006, 07:43:11 PM
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Just found something interesting things about how OnAlert operates and I wanted to pass along.
1) Each security module added, door/window sensor, motion sensor, security remote, keychain remote, etc, and every macro that uses a security module as a trigger is assigned a House/Unit code! AHP will serially assign the first unused Monitored House/Unit code until there aren't any then it continures with unassigned Unit codes on Housecode A, B, C, etc.
I haven't tested this senario but what if you have a motion sensor on D2 and it has the Dawn/Dusk function of House/Unit code +1 and OnAlert assigns a security module or macro to D3?
2) Each door/window sensor sends a "closed" status every @60 minutes and motion sensors send a "reset" status every @90 minutes and this is recorded in the Activity Log.
3) If you have a Delay in any macro that uses security module as a trigger and the PC shuts down or is turned off before the delay expires any commands following the delay are never executed upon restart. This kinda makes sense, but I thought I bring it up because if you use flags this could be a problem.
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I also installed OnAlert yesterday and I am monitoring the activity from my office today. I too notice that the door sensors transmit a every 60 mins and motion resets every 90 mins. What does this mean and why is it doing this? If this is normal, then I may have one problem...only 2 of my 3 door sensors is transmitting...is that a problem?
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I also installed OnAlert yesterday and I am monitoring the activity from my office today. I too notice that the door sensors transmit a every 60 mins and motion resets every 90 mins. What does this mean and why is it doing this? If this is normal, then I may have one problem...only 2 of my 3 door sensors is transmitting...is that a problem?
The security sensors send a periodic signal to let the security console know that they're working, and the latter will report a problem if an "I'm Alive" signal hasn't been received from a registered sensor in four hours.
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Just found something interesting things about how OnAlert operates and I wanted to pass along.
1) Each security module added, door/window sensor, motion sensor, security remote, keychain remote, etc, and every macro that uses a security module as a trigger is assigned a House/Unit code! AHP will serially assign the first unused Monitored House/Unit code until there aren't any then it continures with unassigned Unit codes on Housecode A, B, C, etc.
I haven't tested this senario but what if you have a motion sensor on D2 and it has the Dawn/Dusk function of House/Unit code +1 and OnAlert assigns a security module or macro to D3?
The sensor will triger that security module ! I've seen this ( although not from a sensor) I had a macro already built in AHP before I added the OnAlert plugin! this macro when triggered tells AHP that my shed door is opened looking out the widow I can see it isn't!
3) If you have a Delay in any macro that uses security module as a trigger and the PC shuts down or is turned off before the delay expires any commands following the delay are never executed upon restart. This kinda makes sense, but I thought I bring it up because if you use flags this could be a problem.
There are several work arrounds for this! Do a search you may find some early post from the old forum that discussed this!
You could make a macro which would reset flags once power was restored! ;) :D
The way you trigger it is up to you! ;) :D ;D(Firecracker CM17A is what I use!) A TM751 is what others use as AHP sends a P16 when it first starts up! ;)
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Just found something interesting things about how OnAlert operates and I wanted to pass along.
1) Each security module added, door/window sensor, motion sensor, security remote, keychain remote, etc, and every macro that uses a security module as a trigger is assigned a House/Unit code! AHP will serially assign the first unused Monitored House/Unit code until there aren't any then it continures with unassigned Unit codes on Housecode A, B, C, etc.
I haven't tested this senario but what if you have a motion sensor on D2 and it has the Dawn/Dusk function of House/Unit code +1 and OnAlert assigns a security module or macro to D3?
The sensor will triger that security module ! I've seen this ( although not from a sensor) I had a macro already built in AHP before I added the OnAlert plugin! this macro when triggered tells AHP that my shed door is opened looking out the widow I can see it isn't!
3) If you have a Delay in any macro that uses security module as a trigger and the PC shuts down or is turned off before the delay expires any commands following the delay are never executed upon restart. This kinda makes sense, but I thought I bring it up because if you use flags this could be a problem.
There are several work arrounds for this! Do a search you may find some early post from the old forum that discussed this!
You could make a macro which would reset flags once power was restored! ;) :D
The way you trigger it is up to you! ;) :D ;D(Firecracker CM17A is what I use!) A TM751 is what others use as AHP sends a P16 when it first starts up! ;)
The assigned code can be changed by editing the module (right click on the module). Then use "Find Other Computers" to verify change....
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Quote From: JMac
The assigned code can be changed by editing the module (right click on the module). Then use "Find Other Computers" to verify change....
And how will this tell you which security sensors are on which codes? ;)
I have a dozen security modules set as of now none show in my "Find other computers"! ::) ??? ;)
Update: I've yet to recreate this problem/bug maybe rebooting fixed it! Don't know if it was the macro trigger that opened the sensor or a module/cam in the macro? ::) ???
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Assuming you named them to start with, by positioning the curser on the individual rectangle on the X-10 Code Usage - History. Obviously if they are all the same sensor and not named then it will be harder.
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My sensors show up on the Usage Depiction. Don't yours?
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Right clicking and selecting "Edit Module" of a security device does not display the House/Unit code for modifications.
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A workaround for this is to set the monitored house code in AHP to the code you want the sensors to be listed under. Then setup the sensors and when your done switch back to the house code you want to monitor.
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Good suggestion KDR! Thanks!
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Right clicking and selecting "Edit Module" of a security device does not display the House/Unit code for modifications.
If I click on the device, a house and a unit code appear, which can be changed, and then I go back to the device to make sure it's the same as before. This works on my "Edit Module"!
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That is, click on "module" after bringing up the "Edit Module". That will bring up house and unit codes.
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JMac: Your obviously talking about non security sensors! my edit modules looks like delibakers post! ;)
Good work arround KDR !
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JMac: Your obviously talking about non security sensors! my edit modules looks like delibakers post! ;)
Good work arround KDR !
No, I'm not. I just tried it again - Here's how: right click on security module (DS10A)
Edit Module
Click on info in module box,
then right click on area just to the right of "cancel" (this will temporarily get rid of module listing)
you will see "house code" and "unit code" - change as required
make sure proper module is shown.
You can then check on "Find other computer" for proper x10 code usage.
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Humm... I right click on module amd get the same pic as above. There is no info to click on. Some screen shots of what you have would go a long way right now. ;D
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Ok I slept on this!
JMac : I had tried this before and could get the codes to show up but the module type had changed to something other than Security modules! So this morring I tried again it is a bit of a trick to do on my PC but it can be Done ::) ;)
I have to change the info then change back to a security module and the addresses stick! Good catch ! Thanks for being persistant with me! ;) :D
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No problem - maybe you could help me out with a problem! How do I get a screen shot and post it here on the forum? I guess I never learned that one in Computer 101......
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Hit print screen on the keyboard, then go to a paint program and paste, then edit it and save then, in the forum when typing your post click additional options beside attach is a browse button, click on it and find your saved pic! warning: the forum only allows 128 kb size ;)
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I've been able to change one motion sensor this way and one door sensor this way and now the addresses won't show ::) :( humm maybe restarting AHP will help! yep but it changed the status of the module so I had to reinstall it! ::) ??? told you it was tricky! ;)
Update: Pic
Clicking on the module you'll knotice the address appears under the drop down, the pic also changes and doesn't corespond to the module, click below by cancel the addresses stay ,change to what you want then ,then go back to module and make sure pic coresponds to the info! ;)
Click save and you'll have to reinstall the module!
Click cancel and module reverts back to it's old setting!
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A good freeware screen capture program called Screenshot Pilot is located here: www.colorpilot.com/screenshot.html (http://www.colorpilot.com/screenshot.html)
Many options to capture multiple screens, objects, areas, etc
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JMac: Your obviously talking about non security sensors! my edit modules looks like delibakers post! ;)
Good work arround KDR !
No, I'm not. I just tried it again - Here's how: right click on security module (DS10A)
Edit Module
Click on info in module box,
then right click on area just to the right of "cancel" (this will temporarily get rid of module listing)
you will see "house code" and "unit code" - change as required
make sure proper module is shown.
You can then check on "Find other computer" for proper x10 code usage.
I saw it also... don't think it is for real as mine defaults to A5 (my monitored code is C as is the PS586)
RJ
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One way to be sure And I've done this:
[li]clear your history[/li]
[li]open check for other computers and check the codes AHP sees[/li]
[li]then close it[/li]
[li] then add a security sensor specifying the house code before you select the sensor[/li]
[li]as soon as you select a sensor the address disappears[/li]
[li]save[/li]
[li]open check for other computers this address will now appear as used[/li][/b]
[/list]
This will get your security modules all on one house code! Of coarse you can still use KDRs work around as an added insurance! ;) :) :D ;D
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If click on top of the sensor and change the name I do not have to re-install the DS10a
but if I edit it, I do have to install learn again a bug?
If I do have a problem with it, I have to delete it and empty the basket. Else it seem that the problem persist.
Then create a new one!
Are you experiencing this too? ::)
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HI Everyone:
New Here and can not find out what I'm doing wrong!
I can't get my security sensors and remotes to install (work) on my house computer.
I have them installed on my Laptop and seem to work O.K.(I connect the AHP interface to the laptop when I'm on it)
I am on a shared network between the two computers.
When I first installed the sensors and remotes on the laptop and then sent the file to my house PC ( I think they worked once.)
they're not working on the house computer now.( onAlert does to see the modules!)
Can anyone shed Some light on this?
P.S.Had lots of the same problems that are listed in these forums!
Russie
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Ok, maybe there's a reason why this can't be done... but it worked for me. Why not just modify your .ahx file directly? It's just XML. Close AHP, open the .ahx file for yourself in a text editor (like notepad) and you can modify the code. You'll see something like this:
<room t="Security System" id="1000006" header="2" ts="12345678901234567890" origid="1000006" >
<mod id="2000106" type="DC8700" t="Security Console" code="P1" lifestyle="0" room="Security System" origid="2000106" ts="12345678901234567890" />
<mod id="2000107" type="SH624" t="Downstairs Remote" code="P2" lifestyle="0" room="Security System" securitycode="12345" assignedtoconsole="1" origid="2000107" ts="0987654321" />
Just change the value of "code" to the module address you want to use. Reopen AHP, go to Find Other Computers, and it will be fixed.