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Title: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/11/22]
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 08, 2006, 07:57:30 PM
OPTIONS:


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THANKS in advance for your cooperation! 

You'll be saving some new KR19A owner loads of grief by sharing your information and participating in this POLL.  ;)


[Also, thanks to NEWBIE marineau for bringing this issue back into the "spotlight ".  :) ]

S u m m a r y :

DATE CODE That Works With Option 1: KR19A Slimfire Remote Installation and Operating Instructions


DATE CODE That Works With Option 2: {Programming the New Batch of} SlimFire Remote KR19A


DATE CODE That Works With Option 3:



[Once we collect some substantial data, I'll add a LINK to this from my Troubleshooting Thread.]
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: Tuicemen on October 08, 2006, 09:00:24 PM
It has been a long time since I used one of these, but I do remember programing it using the instructions.
 I'll see if I can find one(there's two arround here some where! ??? ::))
As soon as I find one I'll post the date codes but I'm thinking the sticker if it is still on it will be unreadable!  ??? ::)
 In any case they are older ones 8 or more years old ::) ;)

Update:
Ok I found one! Opened it up and found round sticker with "01139" printed on it ;)
Tried both options for programing and only the directions that come with the manual work!
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: Dan Lawrence on October 08, 2006, 09:46:35 PM
I don't own one.
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 08, 2006, 09:49:38 PM
I don't own one.

So, uh, what, uh, was the purpose of replying?  ???  ::)
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: marineau on October 08, 2006, 09:50:59 PM
I use a new method, and inside, it's write this code: p10898a on white label !
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: JimC on October 09, 2006, 07:13:27 AM
Mine programed with the supplied instructions.

Date code is 05K47
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: Tuicemen on October 09, 2006, 08:53:03 AM
JimC & KDR   You have to open up the flob, white round sticker is inside on the back plate!
At least with my ancient one it was! ;) :D
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: Puck on October 09, 2006, 11:29:21 AM
I have 3 that program as per the manual.
Only difference is when you first press the button, the LED blinks multiple times for 1 sec as opposed to blinking once.

Date Codes:

2 of 05H32

1 of 05K47
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on October 10, 2006, 02:32:42 AM
Mine (sticker code 00135) follows the option 1 instructions.
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: KDR on October 10, 2006, 05:59:41 AM
Mine programs just like all the other RF units I have (per instructions). Mine were purchased about 4 months ago.

The date code on mine reads 05K47

[TTA Edit: Combined multiple posts in one.]
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: delibaker on October 10, 2006, 07:13:31 PM
Mine works with option 1, date code 01f26
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: DowNet on October 17, 2006, 09:45:32 PM
Well I have one of the newer units and one of the older units.  The older unit has a date code (on the little white sticker) of 05K47.  The programing of this unit was farily easy and straight forward however during use, if you hold the on or off button for too long, it will go back into "programing" mode.  Not too good.  My newer version code is as follows: 06D14.  This unit, once programmed, works perfectly and has the nice touch of NOT going accidently into "programming mode."  However to program the unit is almost impossible until you do some research.  The instructions that came with this unit are completely useless and do NOT work at all.  I want to stress that.  The followig works perfectly in programing this "2nd version" of this remote:

Press and Hold the top ON and OFF buttons together. The Red led will come ON and go OFF for approximately 2 seconds then come back ON, release both the ON and OFF buttons. The Red led will remain ON.

Now press the Top ON button the number of times corresponding to the House Code you want, ie: once for Code A, twice for Code B, three times for Code C, etc. The Red led will blink off on each push of the ON button. When you have entered the correct number of ON button pushes to represent your required House Code, immediatly go to Push the OFF button in the same row to the corresponding amount of times to set the unit code (once for 1, twice for 2, etc.) After you are done and threw with this, press the OFF button on the 2nd row.  This will take the unit out of "programming mode" and be ready for use.

In essense you are programming the unit and house code at the same time.

Hope this helps.

My vote is for the newer version...even though it was harder to program, once done it works like a champ to no accidental program intrusion.


[TTA Edit: Moved to the appropriate forum.]
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/10]
Post by: Dan Lawrence on November 06, 2006, 11:15:09 PM
I don't own one.

My bad.   I do own one (it was a freebie from X10 USA when I bought some other stuff from them)  but it doesn't like my RR501 or the CM15A. It will turn off and on A2, but not A1, regardless of how many times I push the button, or hold the KR19 an inch away from either the 501 or the CM15A.  Since I paid $0 for it, there's no money lost. I've changed the battery in it, but signal strenght seems to be hit or miss, mostly miss.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/18]
Post by: Marean on November 09, 2006, 10:23:12 PM
I have the newer KR19A and the newer programming procedure does not work as written.  When i tried to do the unit programming, the house code went back to A no matter where it had been programmed.  I found that by staying in the progamming after setting the house code with the ON button and using the OFF button to set the unit code and then coming out of the programing mode worked. 

This makes sense when one thinks about it.  If the unit did not go back to A1 and A2 every time you went into program mode, how would one know where he is starting from?

Richard
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/18]
Post by: gtsguy on November 23, 2006, 01:00:41 AM
Holy cow!  I had the same problem as you, Marean

I could not get my second SlimFire remote to program as my other one with the revised instructions.  So what we did is when we set the house code with the top ON button, we did not push the bottom OFF button yet.  Instead we programmed the unit code with the top OFF button, THEN we hit the bottom OFF button.  This worked for me. 

Looks like we have a THIRD WAY of programing these things.  My date code is p10898a, btw.


[TTA Edit: Highlighted *NEW* information.]
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/18]
Post by: TakeTheActive on November 23, 2006, 01:38:41 AM

I have the newer KR19A and the newer programming procedure does not work as written...

What is your Date Code?
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/11/22]
Post by: nklght on September 14, 2007, 01:57:06 AM
I am not certain which date code my remotes have, don't use them, the range sucked ( I could blow on a leaf and it had better odds of operating the switch that the remote was supposed to opperate)  But I did use the instructions included in the box.
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/11/22]
Post by: cover4me2 on December 24, 2007, 04:46:37 AM
Recently purchased KR19A remotes (Nov/Dec 2007) - one with a date code 07J40 (inside back cover) and part number P10898A (label inside on circuit board).  To program seems that:
  1.  Found after entering the programming mode by holding down the top #1 ON and OFF buttons for 2-3 seconds, had to set the new house code using the #1 ON button, and then without exiting the programming mode, set the new unit code using the #1 OFF button.  Exit back to normal mode (#2 ON or OFF button) only after setting both the house code and the unit code.
  2.  Didn't completely verify, but looks like remote was resetting back to house code A and unit code 1 upon entering the programming mode.
  3.  Not sure (didn't bother to retest) but entering the programming mode and then trying to change only the unit code (by using the #1 OFF button) may have actually changed the unit code, but at the same time reset the house code to A.
r/Ed
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/10/18]
Post by: slipdisc on January 17, 2008, 09:15:02 PM
Holy cow!  I had the same problem as you, Marean

I could not get my second SlimFire remote to program as my other one with the revised instructions.  So what we did is when we set the house code with the top ON button, we did not push the bottom OFF button yet.  Instead we programmed the unit code with the top OFF button, THEN we hit the bottom OFF button.  This worked for me. 

Looks like we have a THIRD WAY of programing these things.  My date code is p10898a, btw.


[TTA Edit: Highlighted *NEW* information.]

This method in fact worked for two of mine as well. I ordered a 4 pack of them Dec 2007. All same code p10898a. The other two only worked when i pushed the bottom off after each house and unit codes.
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/11/22]
Post by: Walt2 on April 17, 2008, 09:33:52 PM
I have a KR19A and I seem to have lost the programming recipe.  Its date code is 9K46.

I press and hold the top ON button
The LED immediately flickers once (transmits?)
A 3 second pause
The LED flashes once.
A 3 second pause
The LED flashes once. I assume for the default housecode "A"

Now, this is where I get stuck.   :(

If I start to try to program a new housecode by pressing and releasing the ON button, the LED flickers (instead of blinks), and is transmitting, not programming.

I tried this variation:

I press and hold the top ON button
The LED immediately flickers once
A 3 second pause
The LED flashes once.
I start to try to program a new housecode by pressing and releasing.  I get to like "G" (7 press/release) and the LED changes from blinking to flickering with each subsequent press/release.

Any idea what I am doing wrong?    Is there a possibly a timing rhythm I am missing when pressing and releasing the button?   ???
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/11/22]
Post by: OX10 on August 05, 2009, 01:39:34 PM
I've just bought a new KR19A and found out the setup instruction (Choice #2) didn't work.  It's good thing I read this forum and tried out the third (newer) setup instruction:  Stay in programming mode and set up both house code and unit code then exit.  Thanks!

There's no date code on the back or is it the FCC ID?  There's also a Canada code.
Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/11/22]
Post by: slimfire on December 01, 2014, 09:42:10 PM
Since google brought me here I thought I would register with a throwaway account and add a 4th way.   This applies to the previous post, my slimfire was just like this:

Quote
I press and hold the top ON button
The LED immediately flickers once (transmits?)
A 3 second pause
The LED flashes once.
A 3 second pause
The LED flashes once. I assume for the default housecode "A"

Mine was like this.. Manual didn't help, 2nd way didn't help, 3rd way didn't help.  The procedure that worked for me was:

Hold down upper-left 'on' for 3 seconds.  First it flickers, then solid flash.
Tap for the house code.. I did 'F' -- 1..2..3..4..5..**6** 
Note on press #6, you have to press and HOLD.
If you did it right, it will blink-back to you the 6 solid flashes.

Now it is programmed to F.   

I believe to program the unit code you do the same sequence with the upper-left OFF button.

Title: Re: KR19A Slimfire Remote Programming Discrepancies... [Updated: 2006/11/22]
Post by: HA Dave on December 03, 2014, 12:24:50 AM
WOW!!!! Puck, KDR, -Bill- (of gwjohns.com), Dan, Walt2, an edit by TTA.... I real trip down 2006 memory lane.