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Title: Isn't that special
Post by: MeThinks on June 01, 2007, 10:40:41 PM
"The previous content of this post violated, or referred to a post that violated, the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette Policy (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12842.msg71324#msg71324) and has been removed.

In addition, the original poster has been warned."


[TTA Edit: Etiquette Policy Violation.]
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Duck69 on June 01, 2007, 11:54:40 PM
Gee MeThinks,
I don't believe anyone deleted your prior posts.
Possibly they aren't showing up under your name because previously you were a guest. Now that you're a registered member, registered as MeThinks and no longer a guest. I'm not an organizer so I can only guess.
The folks here don't mind criticism and or rants. We realize that it's a healthy way to vent frustration.
As a matter of fact we have a R-A-N-T-S thread.
http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=11216.15

OR: X10 Community Forum
General Category
General Discussion
R-A-N-T-S:

Topic: R-A-N-T-S: (Read 5279 times)

Possibly someone who knows will post an explanation or send you a PM.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: JMac on June 01, 2007, 11:59:32 PM
The only way I know to arm OnAlert (that is, cause the AHP red house icon to appear) is to use a remote. That's why I made a hybrid Universal/Keychain remote module so that I could arm OnAlert via the internet. The macro that arms the security console does not arm OnAlert. At least the icon never changes fron the "unlock" icon. If there are other ways to arm OnAlert I'm not aware of them, but there are greater minds than mine on this here forum ! So hopefully you will get your answer.....
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on June 02, 2007, 03:16:24 AM
"The previous content of this post violated, or referred to a post that violated, the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette Policy (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12842.msg71324#msg71324) and has been removed.

In addition, the original poster has been warned."


[TTA Edit: Etiquette Policy Violation.]
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Puck on June 02, 2007, 10:43:42 AM
I see the actions of some person(s) with deleting and moving authority is still acceptable by X10.

This is the reason why I stepped down as a Community Organizer and left the forum 2 months ago.

People like MeThinks and dlongnecker do not have the right to speak their minds, have their own opinions nor ask for help.

"They did not Assimilate... therefore we must eliminate..."

I have been waiting for the return of dlongnecker's 3rd post. Look up his profile... you will see he has 3 posts, then click on his most recent posts... it only shows 2. Why? Ask a local Community Organizer that one... they can answer. I can answer also, but I stepped down as a Community Organizer, so I won't.

Another MeThinks missing post is in under "General Category \ General Discussion \ Newbie, Need security system setup help". Tuicemen replied on May 31, 2007 at 04:59:56 pm.

Dave_x10_L also quoted and replied to MeThinks in "General Category \ General Discussion \ Light Warrior: 'Adventures in the X-10 Zone'" on May 31, 2007 at 08:34:29 pm.


I have been waiting in the background for dlongnecker's post to return (with an apology) before I came back to be part of this community; but when I seen the same treatment being done to MeThinks, I had to let him know that these things can and do happen if a community organizer dislikes you.

I'm quite certain that some will definitely have to have the last work on this, so in all fairness, to those of you... your next comment will be the last word, as I have no plans to add more or give any further response to this topic.


Cheers everyone, I hope to be back someday... when the community is diversified and not in control of narrow minded organizers.

Until then, I'll just be lurking and waiting,

ByeBye for now.

Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: X-Member on June 02, 2007, 12:22:44 PM
"The previous content of this post violated, or referred to a post that violated, the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette Policy (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12842.msg71324#msg71324) and has been removed.

In addition, the original poster has been warned."


[TTA Edit: Etiquette Policy Violation.]
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: HA Dave on June 02, 2007, 01:13:13 PM
To be honest... my family and friends know I post here. I have actually removed my OWN posts, from threads where people have used "discouraging words". Forums are one place where we actually can "take back our words".

Why don't we ALL reflect on some of the things we post to this forum. And maybe.... we all might return to apologize in a PM, or modify or REMOVE some of the comments we made.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Duck69 on June 03, 2007, 12:09:45 AM
:o DAMN !
Puck, I really hate to see you go.
:(

You have been a GREAT ASSET to this forum since day one.

I remember a while back when certain persons "NOT HELPFUL" ratings disappeared.
I still see these sort of things happening here on the forum.

Deleting someones posts because you don't like them or what they said is really immature.

If MeThinks posts were offensive a PM requesting it be cleaned up or removed would have been the appropriate thing to do.
BUT HE WASN'T EVEN GIVEN A CHANCE !

 :( I sure used to have a lot of fun here prior to all of this (*&^%$%.....
We even got into things that had nothing to do with X10.
Like Monty Python's "SPAM" ;D

I'm sticking with it, because there are some really wonderful folks here and my regard for them is greater than my disgust for some others.

Jim
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: MeThinks on June 03, 2007, 01:45:52 AM
"The previous content of this post violated, or referred to a post that violated, the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette Policy (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12842.msg71324#msg71324) and has been removed.

In addition, the original poster has been warned."


[TTA Edit: Etiquette Policy Violation.]
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: MeThinks on June 03, 2007, 01:51:20 AM
And I see that I now have a post rating of -1.  I don't know what that means exactly, but it can't be good...

 8)
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: MeThinks on June 03, 2007, 01:56:15 AM
The only way I know to arm OnAlert (that is, cause the AHP red house icon to appear) is to use a remote. That's why I made a hybrid Universal/Keychain remote module so that I could arm OnAlert via the internet. The macro that arms the security console does not arm OnAlert. At least the icon never changes fron the "unlock" icon. If there are other ways to arm OnAlert I'm not aware of them, but there are greater minds than mine on this here forum ! So hopefully you will get your answer.....

Thanks JMac, I appreciate your insite as well, I will probably have to do the same. Tuicemen says he has no problems with this, but he hasn't said anything to me...
...or maybe he has, I don't know, because someone erased my posts!!!!!ggggrrrrr
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: steven r on June 03, 2007, 02:06:43 AM
And I see that I now have a post rating of -1.  I don't know what that means exactly, but it can't be good...
It just means that someone arbitrarily rated one of your posts as "not helpful". You're likely to never know who or why. The rating system here is meaningless as there is no way to even know how or why you might of upset someone. It could of even been from someone that just likes to give everyone negative ratings. See multiple other forum discussion on the topic. Take it with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Brian H on June 03, 2007, 10:04:06 AM
Puck did not leave because of your posts MeThinks.

Take the ratings with a grain of salt. Most folks just shrug off a -; while other get offended. Someone is bound to not think a post of yours was helpful and may give you a -.
At one time all karma ratings both + and - where turned off by X10 Administrators.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: JeffVolp on June 03, 2007, 10:30:04 AM
Obviously, those posts stepped on someone's toes. I can understand the frustration when something doesn't work properly - I'm fighting that myself with a video board from a very well-known manufacturer right now.

That said, having the ability to delete messages should be used VERY carefully. Just blanket deleting messages because they are ranting about stuff not working is not much different than the book burning that went on centuries ago. And, there is that little amendment to the Constitution....

Jeff
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: HA Dave on June 03, 2007, 10:41:16 AM

And, there is that little amendment to the Constitution....


What amendment would that be?

Could you be referring to the "Bill of Rights"? That was the Bill that spelled out the limits of the Powers of Congress. (Congress shall make no law....remember). The Bill pointed out that people were born with certain inalienable Rights, endowed by their creator.

I am pretty sure.... the founding fathers didn't intend that Bill to empower people with the right to disrupt the free exchange of organized technological information. And I am AS SURE that MY creator did not create anyone for the purpose of vandalizing private propriety.

This is NOT public domain! This forum is the propriety of a privately owned business.

I take my Rights seriously! Please don't confuse what many of us have been willing to risk our very life's to protect, with someone scribbling "@$$holes" on someones private propriety.

If your Canadian... please forgive me... for all I know, that could be the way things are there.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: JeffVolp on June 03, 2007, 11:14:06 AM
From Wikipedia:

"Although the First Amendment only explicitly prohibits the named rights from being abridged by laws made by Congress, the courts have interpreted it as applying more broadly. As the first sentence in the body of the Constitution reserves all law-making ("legislative") authority to Congress, the courts have held that the First Amendment's terms also extend to the executive and judicial branches"

It might be suggested that the COs act as jurists in this forum.

I can understand why a company might want to prohibit negative messages about its products. Most people probably find this forum because their system is not working right, and their early posts may be driven out of frustration. Hopefully, as they gain more knowledge on how to solve their problems, they will also share that information with others.

Jeff
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: MeThinks on June 03, 2007, 12:43:30 PM
"The previous content of this post violated, or referred to a post that violated, the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette Policy (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12842.msg71324#msg71324) and has been removed.

In addition, the original poster has been warned."


[TTA Edit: Etiquette Policy Violation.]
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Tuicemen on June 03, 2007, 06:02:19 PM
MeThinks :
Wow every time I go away something happens here!
I didn't remove your Posts, I don't believe in censorship, I am Canadian,  ;)  And Have only removed posts that were OF an obscene nature
or the post is spam in any case I PM the member and advise them as well! ;)
X10 has switched over to a new server and now allows guests to post the old server never.As Dave stated this may have been what happen with your post.
As I've just returned I have allot of posts to go threw It my have been moved by one of the other post perhaps the by one Puck mentioned.

Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Brian H on June 03, 2007, 06:35:35 PM
I could not find them even in the Review Area; and I believe only the Administrator can see deleted messages in the deleted area; unless that also change with the new server.
Like you; I have only removed a few ADULT in Nature posts.
This is the only Forum I attend that allows you to post as a Guest. That is asking for trouble. All I would have to do is go as a Guest and smear someone.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Puck on June 03, 2007, 06:36:37 PM
I'm sticking with it, because there are some really wonderful folks here and my regard for them is greater than my disgust for some others.

So true... thanks Duck69. Having thought about those words, I will return to contributing here.

To dlongnecker, MeThinks or anyone else who posts an automation or security question and then it mysteriously goes missing, feel free to PM your question to me... I'm here to help and share, not to control.

Cheers
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: KDR on June 03, 2007, 06:50:23 PM
I have stayed out of this thread and didn't want to add to it but here goes.... Welcome back "again" Puck glad to see you back. :)

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Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: HA Dave on June 03, 2007, 06:58:44 PM

I didn't remove your Posts, I don't believe in censorship, I am Canadian, ;)


Hope that wasn't taken wrong! It's not a bad thing to live north. Like I said: If your Canadian... please forgive me... for all I know, that could be the way things are there.

It could very well be... down here in the "Bible-belt"... we are a tad more stuffy about such things.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Tuicemen on June 03, 2007, 07:07:06 PM
 Since we have no administer (or a very quite one) x10Javier left, it may be a while before we find out where the posts went!
Puck Nice to see you back!
Duck69: thanks as well
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I'm sticking with it, because there are some really wonderful folks here and my regard for them is greater than my disgust for some others.
Dave_x10_L NOT TO WORRY DAVE I JUST COULDN'T RESISTS! ;) it wasn't taken wrong!
To every one: Do Check out Yahoo as well many of us are on there as well ready to help out quickly! There is no "My way or the highway" there!
Cheers
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on June 03, 2007, 07:18:45 PM
;D ;D ;D Cool! 8)   Puck's back! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: steven r on June 03, 2007, 08:11:29 PM


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Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: HA Dave on June 03, 2007, 08:33:29 PM
Yes..... Let me also say Welcome Back Puck!
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Oldtimer on June 03, 2007, 09:04:45 PM
Let me add my own

Welcome back PUCK!

(in more quiet typed english.)

Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: MeThinks on June 03, 2007, 11:20:49 PM
"The previous content of this post violated, or referred to a post that violated, the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette Policy (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12842.msg71324#msg71324) and has been removed.

In addition, the original poster has been warned."


[TTA Edit: Etiquette Policy Violation.]
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: TakeTheActive on June 04, 2007, 02:32:34 AM

...I have been waiting for the return of dlongnecker's 3rd post...

  Sent to: TakeTheActive  on: 2007-06-04, 00:02:10
Quote from: dlongnecker

I don't know how your response to my X-10 question on multiple lights controlled from one light switch was flagged as not helpful.  In reviewing yours (and others) responses to my question, the answers are very detailed.  I can't see how I would have clicked yours "not helpful" and not others.  Your response was good, and I have followed the ideas on your march 6th response last month and it works well.

Can't Dim the XPD3-IW (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=11893.msg67739#msg67739)
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: MichaelC on June 04, 2007, 07:53:09 PM
I just want to go on record here about something that I couldn't comment on when I worked at X10: I hate the [helpful][not helpful] ratings! I recommended against turning on the feature (if you were here when we started these forums you may remember this feature wasn't there at first) because I don't think it contributes anything to the community here. Unfortunately, I was overruled and now we have them forever.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Tuicemen on June 04, 2007, 08:20:01 PM

Thanks again Tuicemen.


Not necessary!
Unfortunately finding out what happen is all I can do! :(

MichaelC the ratings thingy continues to be debated, true it looks as if it is here to stay though! :(
Perhaps someone could write a plug-in that would make it more useful for this forum.
Until then I'm as puzzled as you as to how it helps the forum! ??? ::)
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Brian H on June 05, 2007, 06:48:14 AM
I don't think Guests should have posting rights, but it looks like they can.  ::)
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: steven r on June 05, 2007, 03:16:29 PM
I don't think Guests should have posting rights....
I venture to suggest that most of us here agree. The occasional spam I've seen here is almost always from guests.

BTW... Guests: You can register and keep your email address hidden. Why not join us?
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Duck69 on June 05, 2007, 03:27:43 PM
I agree.
Guests are just that GUESTS.
They are NOT members and should NOT be able to post.

Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: MichaelC on June 05, 2007, 04:18:11 PM
Unless the settings have changed since I left, Guests are allowed to post in the General Category boards. The default settings for this message system doesn't allow posting by Guests in any category, but X10 made the decision (also over my recommendation) to allow Guest posting in the areas specified. A posting might also appear as coming from a guest if the poster deletes their account after posting.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Brian H on June 05, 2007, 06:24:30 PM
The fact that a user who leaves then shows as a Guest may explain some of them.
Title: Re: Isn't that special
Post by: Tuicemen on June 05, 2007, 06:52:22 PM
MichaelC:  
The settings were changed to not allow guests to post and it was working properly(briefly). Then X10 changed a server and some things got screwed in the transformation. X10javier was in the midst of debugging when he left X10. Now we're waiting for a new administer hopefully one that can finish what x10javier started! ::)
There still strange characters appearing in places they weren't before, as well as the guest thingy! ::)