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📝Reviews => Old X10 web sites => X10 Web Site Reviews => X10.com reviews => Topic started by: Knightrider on March 05, 2009, 07:04:34 PM
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Dear Friends at X10,
I have noticed your efforts to tone down the racy daily emails. While I don't think you have toned them down enough, I applaud your efforts. Please keep working on the situation.
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Knightrider
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I have noticed your efforts to tone down the racy daily emails.
While I hadn't noticed... it would be nice.
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Dear Friends at X10,
I have noticed your efforts to tone down the racy daily emails. While I don't think you have toned them down enough, I applaud your efforts. Please keep working on the situation.
#:)
Knightrider
Was just discussing that with the wife earlier today... Some improvement, but still needs more! But never the less it's still an effort..
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It appears that I spoke too soon. Just got the daily junk mailer from yesterday. ON EASTER no less, same trashy women. X10 have you no shame?
Sorry to rehash this SSDD thing, but come on! Not very professional. >*<
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It appears that I spoke too soon. Just got the daily junk mailer from yesterday. ON EASTER no less, same trashy women. X10 have you no shame?
Sorry to rehash this SSDD thing, but come on! Not very professional. >*<
:' Got the same email here..... B:(
:-\ If you look at pics of the web design team you'll know why
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Which is why I never subscribed to e-mails from X10. Less junk in my Inbox.
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:-\ If you look at pics of the web design team you'll know why
Do they appear to be old enough to be out of high school?
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:-\ If you look at pics of the web design team you'll know why
Do they appear to be old enough to be out of high school?
rofl rofl rofl
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"The previous content of this post violated the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette policy and has been removed"
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"The previous content of this post violated the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette policy and has been removed"
There isnt a good reason for this post!
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"The previous content of this post violated the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette policy and has been removed"
I'm only going to respond to your comments once cause you seem to turn alittle rude in your replies.
Its a level of respect. If you want to put a pic of a nice looking woman to sale something fine but really don't need to see butt cheeks and breast uncovered all but the nipple. You say you never ran into a group of guys who care that much... I say I have a high level of respect to any guy who speaks up about this issue against it. It show that they don't need to conform to a guy stereo type and they don't care what other men think of them for it.
There is a place for that kinda of stuff and on a home automation page its not. I mean if I put that kinda of stuff on my company website to sale industrial automation it wouldn't fly. I bet it would have to be taken down cause the woman at the company would find it harassment and there are laws about that.
Hang one of those pics in the office where you work and see how long they last rofl if your married ask your wife if she would be upset at a site that stoops that low to sale things to you.
I don't go there no more cause I think its disrespectful to woman and to my wife. I also find it disrespectful to me that they think I'm that immature that I would buy more stuff cause I seen a butt.
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"The previous content of this post violated the posted X10 General Forum User Etiquette policy and has been removed"
There are plenty of places that I can go to see these types of pictures and even more relieving ones for that matter. My objection to them on the X10 site is not becuase I have any "issues with the opposite sex" that require "therapy sessions" or that I have any problem looking at the pictures myself. I simply feel they are not a good marketing approach for the general American public. Also I assure you, X10, and any one else that cares that none of my automation needs will ever be decided based on pictures of women. I'm much more interested in MTBF statistics and how well a given product fits my needs.
...I also find it disrespectful to me that they think I'm that immature that I would buy more stuff cause I seen a butt.
That pretty much sums it up for me also.
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Is anyone here in marketing or market research? I don't watch TV but once in a while I am exposed to it for a few minutes here and there. In my experience I'd say that x10.com is quite mild compared to the sexual nature and sexual innuendo in prime-time tv.
Now maybe pretty girls don't work on some of you but it's a known fact that sex-sells, whether directly or indirectly. Anyone in marketing can tell you that.
I find it odd that this subject is discussed so much here. I just don't get it I guess.
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...it's a known fact that sex-sells, whether directly or indirectly...
While that may be true for many products and perhaps a portion of X10's customers, I stand by my original statement that none of my automation needs will ever be decided based on pictures of women or men should they ever decide to use male models. I consider myself mature enough to make my automation decisions based on the merits of the product and prefer to see product facts rather than a model's scantly clad body.
I also believe there is a line between subtle use of sex to sell a product and excessive levels. The acceptable level of sexual use in an ad is dependent on your target market. i.e. X10's lingerie ad marketing might be more acceptable to say the European market. I do not believe it is appropriate for the general American market.
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I agree that it wouldn't affect my purchase decision either. Price is all that matters to me. Because of that factor, I've bought most of my x10 stuff other places.
I did recently buy a "scratch and dent" AHP package and was very pleased. Came in the original box, with the manual and USB cable. The only thing I could determine that made it a "scratch and dent' was you could shake it and hear something loose rattling around. I figured it was some solder splatter but when I opened it up it was just a tiny piece of white plastic. Otherwise there wasn't a thing wrong with it or a scratch on it.
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.... I just don't get it I guess.
And it would be my guess that you never will. The majority of the discussion in the last few days have centered around one poster's position against the majority of the members here. I suggest that fact should be taken as a hint.
Descretion is the better part of virtue.
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Point well taken Knightrider. Besides, talking about HA is much more interesting.
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X10 have chosen to use naked females for the ads. I don't like it, and so I choose not to visit their main website - the internet equivalent of the channel flipper.
There are worse things, in my opinion, that they could use for their ads. Imagine the discussions that would ensue if they decided to 'promote' their product with pictures of....
Corpses - male, female or animals,
Religeous icons - Christian, Satanic or Muslim,
Semi naked men or children (although that's probably illegal)
Disabled people (if that's the politically correct terminology these days),
Cars - brings back the Dodge vs Ford arguments,
Racial Stereotypes - Jamaican drug dealers, Italian designers, overweight Americans, stupid upper class English,
etc.
Whatever they choose to adorn their pages with will draw comments from people disliking the content. It really only becomes an issue when someone fanatically defends their decision to the point of insulting others and appearing maniacal in the process - apologies if you think this refers to you, but if you think this *does* refer to you then there may be some truth in it.
[rhetoric question ON]
Here's a thought... Why don't they use an advertising campaign that puts more focus on the product (specifications, uses, sizes, comparisons) and less focus on the irrelevant pictures?
[rhetoric question OFF]
People are people. Disagreements and differences are what make things interesting, but only up to a point. Vehemently defending your view will often get people pissed off, just like TV evangelism rofl (you'll have to excuse me, I'm English and often need to point out my jokes).
Can we play nice now?
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...Here's a thought... Why don't they use an advertising campaign that puts more focus on the product (specifications, uses, sizes, comparisons) and less focus on the irrelevant pictures?...
I just got my Smarthome catalog in the mail today. It, like their site, is packed with products and information. Their sales seem to be doing well without the need attach pictures of revealing models.
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Is there another reseller of x10 products? I like the idea of trying out a low cost (possibly temporary) solution for a mobile video project, but there is NO WAY I am sending my business manager to this ridiculous looking website. Especially after seeing postings about the "racy" or risqué email solicitations. It is sad to say, but I believe spending a few bucks more would be worth it in this case if you are recommending a purchase for a company. I guess these products are mostly for entertainment, but there seems to be some nice possibilites with x10's pan/tilt concepts.
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Yes there are other X10 dealers. Some have stores on EBay. Some are independent web vendors.
Do a Google search for X10 or X10 Dealers
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I like the idea of trying out a low cost (possibly temporary) solution for a mobile video project........ there seems to be some nice possibilites with x10's pan/tilt concepts.
I used a modified Ninja (pan and tilt) as well as a modified X10 camera for a "mobile project" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft9-yxNb47Q) and it worked fine.
but there is NO WAY I am sending my business manager to this ridiculous looking website. Especially after seeing postings about the "racy" or risqué email solicitations.
I was one of BIGGEST and LOUDEST complainers (I used large fonts and caps) about the "racy" WebSite and Email. But I am also one of the first to notice X10 has cleaned up there act a LOT.
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Wrong Answer folks, he's frustrated as i am.
I need 8 cameras, digital wireless, with night vision, and 5.8 gb's, yet from what i read and searched for, you don't offer it.
I feel you might only sell high commission products, that offer little, unless your watching a baby or birds 10' away.
Few if any blogs were solved i noticed. Also, x10 is not compatible with Apple macintosh nor do you have night vision according to your Representative. You get what you pay for, and it continues.
I'll hire a local professional to buy from and install after reading x10 wooos, at least I'll have a little satisfaction if he rips me locally, if so, I'll destroy this reputation. One more thing; only dinosaurs use cable you specialist you. Have a nice day.
You wasted my time!
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Wrong Answer folks, he's frustrated as i am.
I need 8 cameras, digital wireless, with night vision, and 5.8 gb's, yet from what i read and searched for, you don't offer it.
I feel you might only sell high commission products, that offer little, unless your watching a baby or birds 10' away.
Few if any blogs were solved i noticed. Also, x10 is not compatible with Apple macintosh nor do you have night vision according to your Representative. You get what you pay for, and it continues.
I'll hire a local professional to buy from and install after reading x10 wooos, at least I'll have a little satisfaction if he rips me locally, if so, I'll destroy this reputation. One more thing; only dinosaurs use cable you specialist you. Have a nice day.
You wasted my time!
u-h-h, unick
In the event you ever return, you are ranting on the X10 Users Forum. X10 corp doesn't live here...or at least we never hear from them. We are all users here.
Additionally your rant is off the mark. It doesn't make sense to rant because a company doesn't offer what you want. It would be like me sending rants to the new Government Motors whining that they do not sell SUVs with satellite tracking entertainment systems.
Look for another manufacturer and be prepared to pay a lot more.
BTW:
It's 5.8 gHz, not 5.8 gb.
There are many software programs out there that marry a Mac to X10 ("XTension" is a great one).
And you are dead wrong about only dinosaurs using cable, Coax cable for video transmission is superior to Cat 5, twisted pair, 2.4 gHz, 5.8 gHz, 18 gHz, microwave, etc. However cable is inferior to fiber (and that isn’t the oatmeal kind).
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Wrong Answer folks, he's frustrated as i am.
I need....., you don't offer it.
Few if any blogs were solved i noticed. ..... and it continues.
I'll hire a local professional .........I'll destroy this reputation.
One more thing; only dinosaurs use cable you specialist you. Have a nice day.
You wasted my time!
This forum helps many people. Rarely does someone who really tries.. not find a solution. If you were concerned that we wouldn't be able to feel the anger in your words... trust me we could. I hope you find some help with that problem.
If you have more money than time... reading and learning would be an expense waste. However... I would advise you to invest a little time to learn a bit more about cameras and surveillance/security systems. You really don't seem to have acquired enough knowledge... yet.
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I want to buy a Maserati and a Ferrarri, but my Kia dealer doesn't offer either. What's wrong with these people? rofl
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rofl