Good evening everyone!!X10 modules are control points, not monitoring points. They can only apply or disconnect power to the appliances plugged into them. They can not monitor if the appliance is actually being used (drawing current).
I want to measure the power consumption of the house appliance (fridge,stove) using an x-10 module and obviously doing a bit of programming in order to recall the consumption in the previous days.
This, i believe,i can achieve by connecting a watthour meter to the appliance in question, and to the x-10 module. From the module to the controller, then from the outputs of the controller i want it to be displayed on the LCD module. So what i really want to understand is whether it is possible and if x-10 is really needed in this application,or whether this can be considered as an X-10 application...Your description is a little confusing. What are you calling a "controller" and where does this "LCD module" come from? Is that the "Kill-A-Watt"?
rmakhoebe
Was just wondering if anyone would be able to help me with my concern. I want to measure the power consumption of the house appliance (fridge,stove) using an x-10 module
....what i am trying to do is this:recall the power consumption of a certain device (fridge/stove) on a given day.
I am guessing rmakhoebe is not around to know how much the stove was used on a given day, or how long the refrigerator ran in a 24 hour period. What rmakhoebe wants to do is possible, but not "off-the-shelf" or particularly cheap.Was just wondering if anyone would be able to help me with my concern. I want to measure the power consumption of the house appliance (fridge,stove) using an x-10 module....what i am trying to do is this:recall the power consumption of a certain device (fridge/stove) on a given day.
This isn't a complaint! Personally I really don't care. I just wish posters would realize the more secretive and encrypted the posts... the more difficult it is to be of any help to them. I am temped to just ask... why on earth would anyone bother to measure something they could so easily calculate. This is simple basic math that... if you can't do it in you head... can easily be done with pencil and scrap paper.
Is this a classroom exercise?
why on earth would anyone bother to measure something they could so easily calculate. This is simple basic math that... if you can't do it in you head... can easily be done with pencil and scrap paper.
If an X10 module can tell you how long an appliance is powered on, that can tell you its power consumption.Yup! That's the reason X10 really can not help in rmakhoebe's scenario.
That being said, it would be easier to use a few 'Kill-A-Watt's. >*<
Besides it would be a serious error to plug a refrigerator into a X10 module. I know my Breyer's Coffee ice cream would be melted by Wednesday
I'm sure if you wanted to remotely mix cement and pour a sidewalk, someone would come up with a way to use X10 modules to get to that end
Remotely mix cement...... hummmm.
This reminds me of other message boards I belong to. There are some REAL DIE-HARD X-10 FANS on here. [insert relevant smilie here] If you want to know how to make night vision goggles, remote dead-bolt locks, and automatically start your car when you get out of the shower, all with X10 Modules, then you get it here.I want to be able to stand up, pull up my pants and say "FLUSH". :'
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I want to be able to stand up, pull up my pants and say "FLUSH".
All I need yet is a solenoid with a 3" throw for the tank handle. Being an understudy of the "Red Green Show" I'm using X10,duct tape, and maybe a little super glue.
I want to be able to stand up, pull up my pants and say "FLUSH".
All I need yet is a solenoid with a 3" throw for the tank handle. Being an understudy of the "Red Green Show" I'm using X10,duct tape, and maybe a little super glue.
I am also a big fan of Red Green. I am thinking maybe... digging around in back yard... You might be able to find an old windshield wiper motor to throw the flush handle, powered (or course) by a car battery. Or maybe... just build the Red Green robot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-FusHo_Vw8)If the women don't find you hansom.... they should at least find you handy.We're all in this together
Excellent idea!! But I keep all my "small" stuff in the front yard between the couch and the Ford Fairmont.I want to be able to stand up, pull up my pants and say "FLUSH".
All I need yet is a solenoid with a 3" throw for the tank handle. Being an understudy of the "Red Green Show" I'm using X10,duct tape, and maybe a little super glue.
I am thinking maybe... digging around in back yard... You might be able to find an old windshield wiper motor to throw the flush handle,
Excellent idea!! But I keep all my "small" stuff in the front yard between the couch and the Ford Fairmont.
Actually Boiler gave me a great idea. Two X10 controlled aquarium air pumps on a dual port "Bimba" air cynlinder might do it. Since Bimba's are a bit sensitive to moisture I keep them in the Maytag in the side yard. ;)
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... Why X10 or voice command??
We love the challenge of outdoing each other's x10 projects.
Conclusion: You are obsessed with X10 and Home Automation.Yes. Yes I am.
You also have learned WAY MORE about HA than most could do in a lifetime. My hat's off to your accomplishments.Actually most of the regulars here at the forum know much more than myself about X10, electronics, programming... everything. I am an example of what the guy-off-the-street can do... if he only wants to.
Excellent idea!! But I keep all my "small" stuff in the front yard between the couch and the Ford Fairmont.
Actually Boiler gave me a great idea. Two X10 controlled aquarium air pumps on a dual port "Bimba" air cynlinder might do it. Since Bimba's are a bit sensitive to moisture I keep them in the Maytag in the side yard. ;)
A Fairmont, Maytag, and a Bimba actuator???
Dave you've changed - gotten all uppity and such.
Yup I'm "movin on up to the good times".
I'm just taking Dr Cheung's heated toilet seat to the next logical level....... rofl
http://www.edcheung.com/automa/hotseat.htm
3" throw isn't necessary, as you can tap the lever inside the tank to adjust the throw distance.Knight, it's one of those "pressurized flush" johnnys. I call it my "Airport Toilet" because you push the level, and with a loud "ka-douche!!" everything is gone in 287 milliseconds. Wife won't let me X10 it because she is afraid of me getting fried on the toilet. Very hard to explain to the EMS guys without them laughing and blowing the ashes all over the bathroom. rofl
......... Wife won't let me X10 it because she is afraid of me getting fried on the toilet. Very hard to explain to the EMS guys without them laughing and blowing the ashes all over the bathroom. rofl
3" throw isn't necessary, as you can tap the lever inside the tank to adjust the throw distance.Knight, it's one of those "pressurized flush" johnnys. I call it my "Airport Toilet" because you push the level, and with a loud "ka-douche!!" everything is gone in 287 milliseconds. Wife won't let me X10 it because she is afraid of me getting fried on the toilet. Very hard to explain to the EMS guys without them laughing and blowing the ashes all over the bathroom. rofl
Knight, it's one of those "pressurized flush" johnnys. I call it my "Airport Toilet" because you push the level, and with a loud "ka-douche!!" everything is gone in 287 milliseconds. Wife won't let me X10 it because she is afraid of me getting fried on the toilet. Very hard to explain to the EMS guys without them laughing and blowing the ashes all over the bathroom. roflMY NEIGHBOR HAS A '68 SCOUT!!! It's propping up the roof of his front porch, but I can get the wiper motor. I'm on this!
OK, borrowing shamelessly from a number of posts -
1) Vacuum wiper motor from a 60 - 70's vintage Ford Bronco or IH Scout.
2) Vacuum generated by the Fairmont in the side yard.
3) X10 to trip the starter solenoid on the sidewall (low voltage).
I think that gains you the electrical isolation you need (Wife's concerns) and gives you a power source in the event of outages (and uses X10 of course).
Crap - just remembered the Fairmonts were carburated. We'll need to work on a fuel injection retrofit (details, details).
Is there an echo in here?
Yes Puck I do.Is there an echo in here?
You know what Einstein said about doing the same thing twice and expecting different results....