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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => Mobile Apps => Plug-ins => ActivePhone => Topic started by: Dr.Fiero on September 20, 2010, 12:43:37 AM
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If you haven't seen the spam ... errrr, ad for it yet -- X10 has a new application for iPhone (etc) to do what a few other have been doing.
It just happens to look like one of there own remotes!
Interesting though... in the ad, it says (with reference to AHP):
STEP 2: Click on the Tools pulldown menu and select Invite a Cell Phone.
We don't HAVE that option! in the latest revision anyhow. Does this not smell of a new one around the corner?
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If this is what they're talking about: X10 Blog - X10 Phone App (http://blog.x10.com/x10-news/coming-monday-control-x10-devices-from-your-cell-phone/), I guess the brave amongst us can find out Monday. ???
>!
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Check out the New and updated X10 software Download page.
There is some organization going on here. :)%
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Interesting though... in the ad, it says (with reference to AHP):
STEP 2: Click on the Tools pulldown menu and select Invite a Cell Phone.
We don't HAVE that option! in the latest revision anyhow. Does this not smell of a new one around the corner?
The software package for "ActivePhone" will probably add this menu to AHP as the other plug-ins add menus and features.
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"ActiveHome instantly wirelessly transmits the commands to your Transceiver (or ActiveHome PC Interface - CM15A)"
Is this misleading or am I missing something. Active home on you PC communicates with the transceiver through the USB cable. Is there a way to use this app without having your PC on all the time connected to the CM15A via USB?
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From the webpage for it, http://www.x10.com/promotions/sw44a_ed_world_premiere_0917.html (http://www.x10.com/promotions/sw44a_ed_world_premiere_0917.html), it appears that it sends an internal IP address to your phone....the screen shot they have says http://192.168.11.96:8777/ahp. That leads me to believe that the cell phone is using the home wi-fi network to connect to the PC (192.168.11.96), on which they open up a port (:8777) to control AHP. So the new ActivePhone would have to be an addon for AHP, right?
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Here's what the chat person had to say....pretty useless...
( adam lambertus )On how many phones can I set up the ActivePhone (SW44A)? Do I have to pay $9.99 for each phone, or is it one price for the plugin for Active Home?
( Fred ) Hello, Thank you for contacting X10.com where the price has JUST dropped on the World's Best LCD Remote!
Click here to check it out!
- May I have your phone number so that I can contact you in case we get disconnected?
( Adam_Lambertus )XXXXXXXXX
( Fred ) Good morning well it would let you register once per ip address
( Fred ) so one per phone
( Adam_Lambertus )so if I have 2 phones (one for my wife, one for me), I would need to purchase 2 instances of the app? And it runs through my home wi-fi connection?
( Fred ) well first you would need the Original Active Home Pro Software for your computer then this is new software just lunched this weekend so to the best of my knowledge you would just need to yes purchase the app twice for both phones
( Adam_Lambertus )I have AHP on my home computer, and it's running through a CM15A.
( Adam_Lambertus )Is there a manual available? I did a quick search on the website, and I couldn't find it.
( Fred ) Here is a link to what we have so far on the software http://www.x10.com/promotions/sw44a_ed_world_premiere_0917.html
( Fred ) ok you have the correct stuff on your home computer
( Adam_Lambertus )I saw that page, and from the part "Simply go into ActiveHome, clickon the Tools pulldown menu, select Invite a Cell Phone, type in the address, click okay and it will send the link to your phone. Open up the link on your phone, bookmark it so it shows up on your Home Screen", it sounds like it is installed into AHP like the other plugins....
( Fred ) I'm sorry I don't have more updated information on it than that it just launched that this weekend and I haven't been updated on it much myself I'm learning on the go. But from what I have read it is that simple just give active home pro permission to connect and have the app on your phone and you are connected!
( Adam_Lambertus )I know that the other plugins (security, macros, cams, etc.) work by sending an email link to the account when purchased. Then you download the plugin and when you run it, it installs into AHP. Do you know if that is how this works?
( Fred ) no it won't send a email link
( Adam_Lambertus )So what happens? The current version of AHP doesn't have "Invite a cell phone" in the Tools menu...but that's how it says it works....
( Fred ) all our software is free to download and the newest version is here: http://www.x10.com/software
( Adam_Lambertus )Is there anyone else that might know a little more about ActivePhone?
( Fred ) not that I'm aware
( Fred ) what is your email address I can have someone contact you?
( Adam_Lambertus )The forums are pretty empty, it's only mentioned in http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=21397.0
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The X10 ActivePhone software also updates AHP and adds the "Invite a Cellphone" feature.
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How does it "update" AHP? What version do you then have?
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How does it "update" AHP? What version do you then have?
So they've changed the name to ActivePhone based off of my suggestion on Facebook. They're also giving me a free copy. As soon as I get it, I'll document any install process + changes made so we have answers for all these questions.
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Has anyone actually got their software download link? I purchased this couple days ago and still not been processed. If so reviews?
Thanks
Randy ???
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:)% I purchased the ActivePhone yesterday evening and received the email with registration code and link to the AHP upgrade this morning. Have only had a short time to evaluate but, it works fantastic on my iPhone!! Easy to use any house code and has nicer labels that a ink pen on paper label of X10 remotes. Response time I believe is faster than through the CM15A. This could about eliminate the radio limitations some people experience.
Dale
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Hey everyone, I'm making this a much easier and structured document in this other (hopefully stickied) thread:
Active Phone Tips & Tricks (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=21436)
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Anthony;
Thank you for the very detailed findings on the ActivePhone application. #:)
Helpful from me.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation.
From what I gather, unless you are tapping into the "undocumented" features and writing a page with your own links and such, this seems like all it does is give you a PalmPad remote, on the screen of your phone, that uses WiFi instead of RF signals.
Since I have good RF coverage (finally), and a ton of PalmPad remotes scattered around my house (turns out the ScanPad remotes are exactly the same, just a different color), does this plugin really buy me anything?
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Since I have good RF coverage (finally), and a ton of PalmPad remotes scattered around my house (turns out the ScanPad remotes are exactly the same, just a different color), does this plugin really buy me anything?
Only if you are a phone phreak. :D
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Since I have good RF coverage (finally), and a ton of PalmPad remotes scattered around my house (turns out the ScanPad remotes are exactly the same, just a different color), does this plugin really buy me anything?
Only if you are a phone phreak. :D
Other than having the interface look like a PalmPad (which I probably could figure out at some point), I was able to do the same thing using the server portion of X10 Commander, which is free.
I wasn't able to get any of the "X10der" web pages to work on the Blackberry, but I built my own using VERY simple HTML (it is just a bunch of links, each URL sends a complete X10 command).
It also has the advantage for me that AHP doesn't need to be running for it to work.
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Exactly. The advantage here is that it's a one button push and purchase for those who don't feel like setting up a webserver or have no technical knowledge.
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Now that I've had a little more time with the ActivePhone a few more advantages, for me anyway:
1 Since I generally carry my phone with me (although I don't think I'm a "phreak") I don't have to look for an X10 remote.
2 I can access any house code easily with out the dime or screwdriver needed with the PalmPad.
3 When I change house code or number the labels change too. PalmPad can't do that of course so for me is really only useful for one code.
I am semi-tech savvy but, about the security concern with my Wi-Fi network, wouldn't someone need to know my network name and password to get in?
Thanks, Dale
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I am semi-tech savvy but, about the security concern with my Wi-Fi network, wouldn't someone need to know my network name and password to get in?
Also want to thank Anthony for a fantastic writeup.
DD - from what I can infer - you access the app via a URL. That URL is an IP address/Port Combo.
When I'm on WiFi, my internal boxes are 192.168.x.x.
One of those boxes is running my webserver and it's also 209.177.x.x.
I'd guess that if you never want to access your AHP remotely -- only use it when you're at home and connected via WiFi to your own network, then sure, set up the embedded webserver to be your internal address.
When instructions usually talk about opening up ports in your firewall, you're then exposing an internal host to the public internet. Hence the security concerns.
In my house there are precious few ports open to the internet.
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anthonylavado,
I'm embarrassed to say that after our discussion last night and your very informative post, I didn't even think about clicking you a "Helpful", until now! :-[
#:)
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count me in on the +1 wagon. I tagged it this morning.
Very good job!
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I purchased this new app Monday. Thus far I have spent 12 person years trying to get it up and running. I had a previous version of Active Home Pro and downloaded the update sent in an email after purchase. The Active Phone download apparently installs a new fresh copy of Active Home Pro. This caused my old version to become unregistered. I couldn't register it using the old registration code and they didn't send a new one in their email. I had numerous chat sessions with no success. Today I was snootily told by a phone rep that the reason my app didn't work is because I was using an old version of Active Home Pro. The version I had was released 9/20/10 V3.278. I guess I should have known that they plan to have a new release every two days. The new release is dated 9/22/10 and is release v3.279. Comparing the two versions the only thing that appears to have changed is that they disabled the "invite a cell phone" tab in the pull-down menu under "tools" in the new release. It was active in Monday's release. This still left me without the ability to register my "old" or "new" version of Active Home Pro. After several more phone calls I was able to reach Mike who eventually was able to issue me a new registration code after having it placed on their servers. So now I am finally registered. Now I can invite my cellphone, I get an email on my iPhone 4, but when I click on the link to install/link with the handheld remote, I get a small box with a question mark in it using my Safari iPhone browser. In attempting to debug the error I find two 1.) an HTML error on line 448 and 2.) a JavaScript error on line 120. So there you have it. So much for the quick five minute installation and it still doesn't work.
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Now I can invite my cellphone, I get an email on my iPhone 4, but when I click on the link to install/link with the handheld remote, I get a small box with a question mark in it using my Safari iPhone browser. In attempting to debug the error I find two 1.) an HTML error on line 448 and 2.) a JavaScript error on line 120. So there you have it. So much for the quick five minute installation and it still doesn't work.
Don't worry cybersherrif, we can help you work this out.
A few important questions:- Do you have any Antivirus/Anti Spyware/Firewall/Internet Security software on your AHP PC?
- Knowing that you have a wireless router, what make and model is it? You can usually find this on the bottom or back of the router.
A step at a time and we'll get you the rest of the way.
Right now, AHP w/Active Phone is telling me 3.278 is the current version, but I'm downloading 3.279 now to try it out and see if there is indeed an error that I can replicate.
I keep archived copies of AHP with and without Active Phone, so we can rollback if this is the case.
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Yes, I have McAfee anti-virus software and use the firewall integrated into their security suite. I use a 2-Wire wireless router that is connected via Ethernet to my desktop. The model appears to be 27701HG-B.
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I've just installed 3.279 as updated on the X10 Software Page, no issues for me, my iPhone 4, or other computers to use Active Phone.
Yes, I have McAfee anti-virus software and use the firewall integrated into their security suite.
Okay. This is where to start.
Solution: How to configure McAfee Personal Firewall to allow inbound connections on specific ports
Summary: This article will help you configure your McAfee software to allow remote connections to your system.
http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx?id=TS100887
That procedure should allow you to open up Port 8777, which is the default for Active Phone.
Let us know how it works!
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OK. My McAfee security suite is a little different than what is included in these instructions. However, I checked and my X10nets.exe has full internet access. I invited my phone again received email, clicked on it but still don't receive the handheld view. Still the same two error messages.
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Still the same two error messages.
I checked mine with my Mobile Safari debug console on, I see that HTML error, looks like bad design on the programmer's part. No JavaScript error. There must be a problem with the PalmPad.HTML page.
I'd like for you to uninstall AHP and reinstall with this link: ftp://ftp.x10.com/pub/applications/activehomepro/sw44a_activephone.exe
It's the exact same version I used a few hours ago, confirmed working on my iPhone 4.
Before you reinstall, make sure you go to C:\Program Files\Common Files\X10\ and delete both the WebApps and Art folders.
It also wouldn't hurt for you to clear Mobile Safari's Cache. This is found in Settings > Safari.
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Anthony, OK. I'll do what you recommend. I cleared cache earlier today, but that didn't help.
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Hello,
I just installed ActivePhone on my iPhone tonight and it works great.
I did have to turn off windows firewall.
I also setup port forwarding for 8777 as well.
After looking at ActivePhone and X10 Commander I like the visual display better on the X10 Commander, it is easier to read with the larger fonts used.
At this point, I will use both and see which one I like the best.
There is not much information as to the abilities of ActivePhone.
Lets hear from other users ;-)
Chuck
Chico, CA
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ActivePhone sounds like a good addition, except that it only works with the iPhone and others of that type, not with all cell phones. :'(
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Anthony, OK. I removed AHP it wasn't easy though. After I deleted it using the add/delete function. I still had a copy. I finally removed every trace of AHP. I even cleaned the registry out of every trace of AHP. The only thing I saved was the folder containing the profile for my X10 devices. I downloaded a fresh copy using your image and re-registered everything. I also open the firewall briefly to download and install and to also invite my cellphone. Now when I click to invite my phone and enter my email address...nothing happens. No email is received for me to open containing the hand held device image. Any other ideas??? I am ready to call it a loss and request a refund. Too much time being wasted on a small investment/benefit. Thanks
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Late breaking news! i am up and running. Seems all the new "invite cellphone" emails were going into my spam folder. Yesterday they appeared in with my regular mail although they didn't work. When I clicked on the address contained in the email the hand held image appeared. Anthony thanks for your assistance! #:)
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Late breaking news! i am up and running. Seems all the new "invite cellphone" emails were going into my spam folder. Yesterday they appeared in with my regular mail although they didn't work. When I clicked on the address contained in the email the hand held image appeared. Anthony thanks for your assistance! #:)
Oh hooray! I think I know what the issue wa now though. I'll update my post later. Hope all woke sout! At least now you also know your setup is "clean".
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I just installed ActivePhone and of course this started causing AHP to crash.
The uninstaller would not work from Programs and Features (Win7) so I had to go into my Windows folder and manually run unwise32_setup and browse to AHP directory and select Install.log.
So, this got it uninstalled and I manually deleted a few "leftovers".
I reinstalled AHP suite with ActivePhone (of course having issues getting it to reinstall) and now do not see any of my modules labels on the PalmPad when I open the link.
3 When I change house code or number the labels change too. PalmPad can't do that of course so for me is really only useful for one code.
From what I've read, this is supposed to display the labels of modules I have set in AHP.
Am I missing something? Or is this not the case? ???
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From what I've read, this is supposed to display the labels of modules I have set in AHP.
Am I missing something? Or is this not the case? ???
You're correct, it should show te labels. The important thing to remember is to chain to the right House Code. You can do this by tapping/clicking on the House Code wheel in Active Phone. It will update as you go through them.
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Thanks for the reply.
I've had no labels when first installing it, or after completely removing and reinstalling.
Version I'm showing is 3.280 and have tried on both a BlackBerry and an iTouch.
The app is working, just no labels.
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Well Anthony I surrender. This morning I was elated, presently I am where I was yesterday. As mentioned, this morning I finally had the handheld on my iPhone4. Now I am back to where I was. When I click on the link I bookmarked I get an error message that says "Cannot Open Page...Safari cannot open the page because it could not connect to the server".
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I was getting this on my BlackBerry until I opened its browser and manually typed in the LAN IP of the PC running AHP.
Eg: http://xxx.xxx.x.xxx:8777/ahp
I then bookmarked this page.
The EMail link did work for the iTouch/iPhone.
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JB...is it possible you deleted the file containing your AHP profile when you did the uninstall of AHP? Do you still see your device profile?
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I backed up the .ahx file before I removed AHP and restored it after.
I've had no issues running AHP 3.271, these started with ActivePhone.
The only issue I'm having is not seeing the labels on the PalmPad on my phone.
Maybe I'll try a fresh .ahx file and see what happens.
Update: I setup a new .ahx file with 1 module and this now works properly showing the labels in ActivePhone.
I find it odd as I have had no other issues with AHP.
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"Cannot Open Page...Safari cannot open the page because it could not connect to the server".
Most Routers, such as your 2-Wire, will give your computer a new IP address every time it's turned on. Thus, the page would now have a different link if you went to "Invite A Cell Phone". There are two ways to solve this: either use the computer's name in the link, or set up a static IP.
PC or Mac?
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( Fred ) Good morning well it would let you register once per ip address
( Fred ) so one per phone
( Adam_Lambertus )so if I have 2 phones (one for my wife, one for me), I would need to purchase 2 instances of the app? And it runs through my home wi-fi connection?
ActivePhone upgrades your ActiveHome software. It replaces your current version of ActiveHome and you can connect as many phones as you like with it. It runs through your home wi-fi connection.
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ActivePhone downloads a fresh copy of AHP which contains the "invite a cellphone" option. Problem is that while I was able to download/update my copy Monday, it was no longer registered after the update. My "old" registration code didn't work and there was no new registration in the email sent me by X10 with the download link. It took several calls to get someone to finally issue me a new reg code. I finally have my app up and running on my iPhone4. Anthony recommended setting a new static IP address for my 2Wire. However, 2Wire is an ubiquitous router. AT&T uses these by the millions for me to be the only one experiencing the problems I have been having. I checked my network settings and found the Microsoft firewall up and running despite my having shut it down when I installed my McAfee firewall years ago. I believe this was the source of my problem(s). When I shut it down I was able to open the handheld image on my iPhone 4. For those looking for your unit labels you need to tap the "house code wheel" with your finger until you reach your monitored house code. Good luck everyone. It's a handy app. I often don't have a palm remote handy, but I always have my cell phone. Thanks Anthony for all the suggestions. #:)
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My issue with module labels not showing was fixed by creating a new AHP file from scratch.
Slightly time consuming as I have over 60 modules/Macros. B:(
ActivePhone will show all labels on the PalmPad, not just the monitored House Code.
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Still trying to decide if I like the ActivePhone or X10Commander better. In the meantime, I have a basic (I think) Windows question. I'm using Vista Home and it has the User Account Control (UAC) which is the pesky little warning boxes that come up with certain programs asking if you want to continue. So when I launch AHP I always get this warning box. Usually its not a big deal because I don't always need to have AHP open as everything is set. But with ActivePhone, AHP needs to be opened for it to work. SO I put AHP in the Windows Startup folder but it won't launch at startup because of UAC. Are you with me so far?
I can go into Windows Settings and turn off UAC, but then I'm bombarded with warning message from Windows saying it isn't safe to have this turned off.
Can I somehow make an exception for AHP in the settings??
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@lee911: When UAC is disabled, you can go into the Security Center and click on "Change the way Security Center alerts me" or similar to have it stop bugging you.
I would still leave UAC on (it's a good thing, trust me), and perhaps follow this guide to make running AHP a scheduled task:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/135472-faq-what-is-the-uac-part2/
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I normally click on Windows Security Center settings in the system tray (red shield once you turn off UAC).
Once it opens, in the left column, there is an option to change how windows security center alerts you and I check do not show warnings.
This removes the popups and I've had no issues.
This should be fine as long as you are comfortable with your security settings.
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I have ActivePhone installed on my iPhone and it works GREAT using WiFi ... BUT I can't connect away from home using 3G.
The advertising hype suggests that it will work anywhere you have a 3G signal.
Using Comcast, Netgear router and port forwarded 8777, Firewall and virus protection OFF.
Am I doing something wrong?
Please any help?
Chuck
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Using Comcast, Netgear router and port forwarded 8777, Firewall and virus protection OFF.
Just make sure you're typing in the right IP Address away from home.
The link you get in the e-mail from ActiveHome is for use inside your home network, and won't be the same for external use.
The best thing to do is visit this website from home: http://www.whatsmyip.org/
Then, on your smart phone, you type in the corresponding number. For example, if http://www.whatsmyip.org/ tells you "Your IP Address is 222.222.222.555", the correct address on your phone would be http://222.222.222.555:8777/ahp
Hope that helps!
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If you have a dynamic IP address (your computers IP frequently changes) try using a free service such as http://www.dyndns.com.
They have an auto update client that will update your IP and resolve it to a domain name. Eg: if your IP address was 255.255.255.0 and changed to 255.255.255.1, you wouldn't have to know this change, it would instead always be a set web address such as http://mywebaddress.com:8777/ahp.
I use this type of service myself and it works great..
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Using Comcast, Netgear router and port forwarded 8777, Firewall and virus protection OFF.
Just make sure you're typing in the right IP Address away from home.
The link you get in the e-mail from ActiveHome is for use inside your home network, and won't be the same for external use.
The best thing to do is visit this website from home: http://www.whatsmyip.org/
Then, on your smart phone, you type in the corresponding number. For example, if http://www.whatsmyip.org/ tells you "Your IP Address is 222.222.222.555", the correct address on your phone would be http://222.222.222.555:8777/ahp
Hope that helps!
This is my problem it is using the wrong address .... BUT . I can't find a place to change to the new address ..
Tell me how/where ... i've looked almost everywhere ;-(
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Using Comcast, Netgear router and port forwarded 8777, Firewall and virus protection OFF.
Just make sure you're typing in the right IP Address away from home.
The link you get in the e-mail from ActiveHome is for use inside your home network, and won't be the same for external use.
The best thing to do is visit this website from home: http://www.whatsmyip.org/
Then, on your smart phone, you type in the corresponding number. For example, if http://www.whatsmyip.org/ tells you "Your IP Address is 222.222.222.555", the correct address on your phone would be http://222.222.222.555:8777/ahp
Hope that helps!
This is my problem it is using the wrong address .... BUT . I can't find a place to change to the new address ..
Tell me how/where ... i've looked almost everywhere ;-(
It's always the last place you look... ;D Enter the address into your cell phone's web browser... Then bookmark it so you don't need to type as much the next time.
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Using Comcast, Netgear router and port forwarded 8777, Firewall and virus protection OFF.
Just make sure you're typing in the right IP Address away from home.
The link you get in the e-mail from ActiveHome is for use inside your home network, and won't be the same for external use.
The best thing to do is visit this website from home: http://www.whatsmyip.org/
Then, on your smart phone, you type in the corresponding number. For example, if http://www.whatsmyip.org/ tells you "Your IP Address is 222.222.222.555", the correct address on your phone would be http://222.222.222.555:8777/ahp
Hope that helps!
This is my problem it is using the wrong address .... BUT . I can't find a place to change to the new address ..
Tell me how/where ... i've looked almost everywhere ;-(
It's always the last place you look... ;D Enter the address into your cell phone's web browser... Then bookmark it so you don't need to type as much the next time.
Thanks .. that is exactly what I figured out.... it works now.
Chuck
Edited by -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) to fix the quotes.
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It's always the last place you look... ;D Enter the address into your cell phone's web browser... Then bookmark it so you don't need to type as much the next time.
If you use a service like DynDNS (or one of the many other dynamic DNS services), you should be able to bookmark that DDNS domain name, instead of looking up your external IP all the time.
Many routers have the ability to update some of the DDNS providers automatically when the IP address changes.
You can use use a service like DNS-O-Matic to update several at once, using software that runs on your PC to check your external IP address periodically.
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Hi,
Hopefully this is a catchall for activephone and not a specific thread.
Here's my quick question. Since activephone emulates a hardware remote, and with that remote you are able to program modules like the socket rocket etc, with out being across the house in front of a pc, can you use active phone to program these modules? Or should I just by the remote?
Thanks
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ActivePhone connects through AHP to control basic function of the modules you have setup such as on/off, bright/dim.
There's no way to add or edit modules from ActivePhone that I know of.
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I would think you could program a Socket Rocket. By using one of the On buttons on the emulated Palm Pad.
Apply the power to the Socket Rocket and within thirty seconds send the On command three times.
As J.B. pointed out. You could not edit modules in AHP.
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If you have a dynamic IP address (your computers IP frequently changes) try using a free service such as http://www.dyndns.com.
They have an auto update client that will update your IP and resolve it to a domain name. Eg: if your IP address was 255.255.255.0 and changed to 255.255.255.1, you wouldn't have to know this change, it would instead always be a set web address such as http://mywebaddress.com:8777/ahp.
I use this type of service myself and it works great..
Do you have to setup Port Forwarding too? I went to DynDNS.com and setup an account and got my DNS name, but it doesn't work. Can anyone provide detailed instructions to get this working? Would much rather have my ActivePhone working on 3G then WiFi!
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You would have to setup port forwarding if you are behind a router so the connection goes to the computer running AHP.
If you only run one computer directly off your modem, then you may need to allow AHP through your firewall.
If using a router, many now allow you to add your DDNS info in their settings.
If you are not using a router, try installing the DynDNS auto update client from here:
http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/
This updates your IP automatically so you can connect properly with your domain name.
Their server has to know your IP so the web address you setup will connect to your system.
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You would have to setup port forwarding if you are behind a router so the connection goes to the computer running AHP.
If you only run one computer directly off your modem, then you may need to allow AHP through your firewall.
If using a router, many now allow you to add your DDNS info in their settings.
If you are not using a router, try installing the DynDNS auto update client from here:
http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/
This updates your IP automatically so you can connect properly with your domain name.
Their server has to know your IP so the web address you setup will connect to your system.
I run Windows Vista with an ISP modem and wireless router. ActivePhone and X10 Commander both work fine on WiFi. So my goal is to get at least ONE of them working on 3G. I went into my Router settings (Dlink) and it does allow me to enter my DynDNS account. I have set Windows Firewall to allow ActiveHome and ActivePhone. And I've attempted to setup Port Forwarding within the router settings. But this is maybe where I went wrong with the settings. I don't know. I'll keep messing around to see if I can get it. But if anyone can help me out with this Port Forwarding thing it would be appreciated. It's driving me crazy!!!
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Where you have a D-Link router, does it have the Virtual Server option? If so, try that instead of standard port forwarding.
It may also help to set a static IP for your computer if you haven't.
If you have the virtual server option you would input a name for the rule, set port 8777 for both public and private port and TCP protocol.
Enter your AHP computers IP or use the drop down menu to select.
Ensure you check the box and save settings.
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You must give permission for the Active Home Pro (AHP) app to have internet access in-bound/out-bound through the software firewall on the computer hosting the AHP app. You need to know the IP address for this same computer so you can use this IP address from your smart phone modifying it as Anthony has shown in his above post and bookmarking it for future use. Eventually you'll have two bookmarked IP addresses; one for WiFi and one for 3G usage. The firewall on your hardware router needs to be modified to allow access to port 8777. The from to range for this port if asked is 8777 to 8777 as you are only permitting access to one port. Select TCP as the protocol. You may need to reboot you computer and/or router for these changes to take effect if it doesn't work immediately. Hope this helps. It took me awhile to get my iPhone4 working under both WiFi and 3G. The posts on this thread helped immensely.
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Eventually you'll have two bookmarked IP addresses; one for WiFi and one for 3G usage.
This isn't the case if using a DDNS service, you would only require the single domain name and port number.
It will connect WiFi if you are using WiFi, or 3G if using 3G with the same URL.
Eg: http://yourdomainname:8777/ahp for ActivePhone or http://yourdomainname:8777/iwatch for iWatchMobile.
You would of course require two URLs if you are using both ActivePhone and iWatchMobile.
You can also still use your internal IP for WiFi if you use a DDNS service.
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I'm struggling getting my Blackberry able to access AHP through AP. Got the email invite sent, but can't make it work. Thought it would be a piece of cake when, despite X10 instructions saying no port need be opened on firewall (I have my software firewall, anti-virus, and anti-spyware all currently disabled trying to get this up, so I'm talking the Belkin router firewall), this thread confirmed my suspicion that indeed it DID need to be set that way. But despite setting the Virtual Server port open as instructed, my phone is still not being allowed to access. I haven't set a DDNS so it can be permanently fixed, but doesn't seem to make sense trying that if I can't make it work without it when I use an IP address that is confirmed functional moments ago. Same thing happens with my email link invocation or straight browser entry in my BB (running it on WIFI only, have the "radio" connection currently disable so I know WIFI in general is working BB connection because I can freely browse to other sites)... I get:
"HTTP Error 504: Gateway Timeout" error msg, with the further text, "The gateway timed-out while waiting for a response from the server. Please try loading a different page. Contact your service provider if this problem persists." If I click the available Details button below that text, I get the further msg (displayed in Blackberry browser), "ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve the URL http://192.168.2.5:877/ahp the following error was encountered: Connection to 192.168.2.5 failed
The system returned: (113) No route to host
The remote host or network may be down. Please try the request again.
Your cache administrator is webmaster." ("Webmaster" is blue and underlined like a link, but gives an error msg when clicked on.)
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Sorry, but have to ask.
Is this a typo? http://192.168.2.5:877/ahp
The port is 8777, so the URL would be http://192.168.2.5:8777/ahp
Also, can you access ActivePhone by this URL in your web browser on the computer running AHP: http://127.0.0.1:8777/ahp
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Yep, sorry, typo indeed dropping one of the "7" digits, error not in my addresses where they count but just in the manual transcription for the forum post. And no, I can NOT access it via http://127.0.0.1:8777/ahp nor from http://xxx.xx.xx.x:8777/ahp where the x's represent my IP from http://whatismyipaddress.com/ ...so maybe the problem is not with my network per se? Another thing I noted, when I first was messing around with my router firewall to open the port there, I looked at its list of DHCP clients and I did see this (AHP host) computer listed in there, but now I don't. Now it only shows my Blackberry and the Wii in the basement (as *.2 and *.3 respectively). The "regular" computers are not showing up on that list (where this one showed as *.5 once and then as *.4 after reboot earlier). in between there, I did go to a setting where it asks if I want to clone my computer's IP address to the router, thought I'd give that a try, so perhaps that's why it's not showing?
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Ok, you can't access ActivePhone from the computer running AHP with the link : http://127.0.0.1:8777/ahp Or did you try this from the Blackberry? This won't work from the Blackberry, it has to be typed into the computer running ActiveHome's browser.
AHP is running when you try to connect?
The "regular" computers are not showing up on that list
If you have added a DHCP reservation for the other computers, they may not show as available in the list.
I've had routers that do this myself.
Check your internal IP directly from the AHP computer and try manually inputting it in the port forward settings.
You shouldn't have to setup port forwarding if you are only using it on WiFi.
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Right, the above failures to access with those IP's as the URL front end were from the same computer that currently has AHP up and running.
This Belkin router utility doesn't seem to have a separate port forwarding option like I was used to from prior Linksys routers, only has the Virtual Server options area where I already have manually entered the 192.168.2.4 (only the "4" is changeable there, the other decimal parts being pre-entered -- I'm assuming this is what you meant by the "internal IP?"). If that's what you meant, that's how I've had it all along.
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And yes, I am only trying to do it via my local wifi, which is what I run my Blackberry on all the time around home anyway. I might try the 3G thing later, but certainly not until I have it working the most basic way!
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As long as the AHP computers IP is correct, the port number is correct, and your settings saved, you should be able to connect fine both using WiFi or 3g.
I would try a fresh install of AHP and it's plug-ins and ensure you have to most recent versions.
You can find those here: http://www.x10.com/support/support_soft1.htm
If the software is installed properly, you should have no issues connecting to it in a browser on the computer AHP is installed on.
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Will give that a try, it's what I thought all along but was thinking maybe I was overlooking something in the network or router security setup, hoping not to have to install (yet GAIN) AHP and AP and the couple other plug-ins (Smart Macros and MyHouse Online, neither of which have I done anything with yet -- I have macros, but apparently they're dumb ones because I did 'em before I got that module registered).
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Re-downloaded and re-installed and re-registered (after uninstalling AHP via Windows Add/Remove) fresh downloads of AHP, Smart Macros, MyHouse Online, and ActivePhone. Same thing, still can't access even from the same computer AHP is on!
Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 192.168.2.4:8777
Trying http://127.0.0.1:8777/ahp (or my external IP instead of 127.0.0.1) doesn't even get me as far as that msg, just gives me a blank browser tab trying to load. This is all on Firefox 3.6.10 on Windows XP home.
Not much prayer of getting it to work from my phone if I can't access even from same computer AHP is running on!
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This is all on Firefox 3.6.10 on Windows XP home.
@wmarkhay
All right, let's take a deep breath, we'll get you through this.
You mentioned you're using Windows XP Home and Firefox to try and view the page. As I type this right now, I'm able to see the page from my AHP PC which is Windows XP Pro, using any browser (FF, Safari, Chrome, IE).
So let's start with the basics.
- Make sure you can access the Internet from your AHP PC. I ask because not everyone uses the same one to post on the forums.
- Make sure that Windows Firewall is turned off if you're using other Firewall/Security Software. It's also useful to turn off for testing. In Windows XP this should be located at Start Menu > Control Panel > Windows Firewall. Even if you've installed other security software, this doesn't always get disabled and can cause problems. Once turned off, try the page again.
- You said you have a software firewall installed on your computer. You mentioned you had turned it off. What software is this? Norton Internet Security, or 360? McAfee Total Internet Security, etc? See the "Troubleshooting" section in my tips and tricks thread for links on how to adjust common Security Software firewalls: http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=21436.0
- Try restarting the computer after the above. Once done, open AHP, and try http://127.0.0.1:8777/ahp again in any browser you would like.
The goal here is to make sure that even though you've turned off your software firewall, there may be other things in the way, or it may not really be off. The only reason for the page to not show is for something to be blocking it along the way. Once we have it working on your AHP PC, then we'll talk about getting the address going for it to show on your BB and then further.
J.B. is also right in mentioning that inside your own network, on WiFi, you don't have to set up Port Forwarding. That's when we get to the fun part for external use... :D
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I may have missed this if it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I saw similar issues using X10Commander with my own Blackberry.
It wouldn't connect to an internal IP address (on my internal network), even though it was connected to my WiFi.
Here's how to fix it (per a few BB forums I searched):
Create a bookmark in your Blackberry's browser for the internal (http://192.168.2.x/:8777/ahp) address of the site (full URL). Then change the "Browser" option in the properties of the Bookmark to "Hotspot Browser."
This forces the BB to use Wifi, AND to route the DNS through the WiFi connection, too.
Good luck.
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Then change the "Browser" option in the properties of the Bookmark to "Hotspot Browser."
This forces the BB to use Wifi, AND to route the DNS through the WiFi connection, too.
That's an excellent thing to check.
I forgot to mention this as I always have it set as a Hotspot browser and to WiFi, unless I am out of range of any usable WiFi.
You can also change the settings to Hotspot browser by opening your browser, BB key, scroll to Options, Browser Configuration, and select Hotspot Browser.
Click back and save.
Make sure to set this back to Internet Browser if using the browser with a 3g connection.
You can also change the default settings to always use Hotspot or Internet Browser. From your home screen hit the BB key, Settings, Advanced Options, Browser, and set your desired settings.
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Then change the "Browser" option in the properties of the Bookmark to "Hotspot Browser."
This forces the BB to use Wifi, AND to route the DNS through the WiFi connection, too.
That's an excellent thing to check.
I forgot to mention this as I always have it set as a Hotspot browser and to WiFi, unless I am out of range of any usable WiFi.
You can also change the settings to Hotspot browser by opening your browser, BB key, scroll to Options, Browser Configuration, and select Hotspot Browser.
Click back and save.
Make sure to set this back to Internet Browser if using the browser with a 3g connection.
You can also change the default settings to always use Hotspot or Internet Browser. From your home screen hit the BB key, Settings, Advanced Options, Browser, and set your desired settings.
I find it handy to be able to set the browser mode for an individual bookmark. It is fewer clicks for pages that I ALWAYS want to go through the Hotspot browser.
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I find it handy to be able to set the browser mode for an individual bookmark. It is fewer clicks for pages that I ALWAYS want to go through the Hotspot browser.
That can be very convenient, also. >!
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Great suggestions for my Blackberry guys, will definitely use them. Unfortunately, after doing every one of the prescribed steps from earlier help postings, I STILL can't connect even from a browser on the AHP home computer, getting nothing from port 8777/ahp whether I precede it with 127.0.0.1: or 192.168.2.4:, both of which SHOULD be working! Also gave it a try in IE to see if it was something unique to my Firefox installation, no difference there either.
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Also may be helpful for you in diagnosing my trouble:
My router has a log of requests made to it, and despite all these attempts, I never see them in that log. Pretty much all I see are periodic requests from the Wii in my basement, intermingled with very occasional log-ins from my laptop if my wife fires it up in the living room while I'm in my office doing this. I actually did see my Blackberry connected, but that was just when I came home and it went from cell-tower to WIFI when I got in the house (I work 12 hour shifts Fri-Sun, so left at 5:15am this morning and returned shortly before 7pm this evening, same the next two days, explaining my "darkness" for a while getting back to you with my results). I can see log requests that were accepted and denied (from other sources) from before I disabled the firewall, but it appears to still do the logging even though firewall's now disabled, just never says "access denied," always "access allowed." I'm using CA Firewall, Anti-virus, and Anti-spyware, again all disabled.
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I did one more thing, from my old days of Norton Anti-virus being difficult to disable, booted into Safe Mode and renamed the CA anti-malware directory, then booted back regular mode to be absolutely sure non of that CA anti-anything stuff was getting in the way, and it made no difference, still can't even browse to my own 127.0.0.1.
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...still can't even browse to my own 127.0.0.1.
Having trouble thinking what could be causing the issue at this point without seeing more of the configuration. Would you be willing to let me remotely access/troubleshoot the issue? There are free services that can be used to do this.
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I would gladly let you do that, Anthony, but would have to be tomorrow most likely as I'm about to head in for my 12 hour weekend work shift. Maybe this evening, but I'm pretty tired when I get home, although this should not be too tasking for me so I could possibly do it after 7pm Central time tonight, too. Let me know what would work for you.
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Hey everyone, just figured we'd chime in with an update here.
wmarkhay's computer had CA Internet Secuirty installed which seemed to be filtering out any JavaScript in any browser. Example? He couldn't get Facebook to show up properly in any browser on his system, IE or Firefox.
An uninstall of CA seems to have done the trick, at least for confirming that it works internally on the computer . Now the trick is getting the BlackBerry to show the page, then putting the security software back on, and making sure it doesn't filter absolutely everything in the process. :D
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And a huge thank you to Anthony for his work with me. Still can't get the BlackBerry to connect with ActivePhone, but since I can now get to that interface with all the other computers on my wired network, at least I know it's somewhere between the wireless and the BB and can work on it from here. #:)
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I am trying to label my Active Phone labels.....when I open the C:\Program Files\Common Files\X10\Common\PalmPad.html the page loads but no image is displayed? My activephone is working with graphics fine. also when I modify art in C:\Program Files\Common Files\X10\Common\Art\ my changes are not reflected.
If i use the sample file C:\Program Files\AHSDK\samples\javascript\palmpad\palmpad.html it allows me to double click and change label...but this is just a sample file
Can someone explain in detail how labels are to be changed?
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Ladies and gentlemen, drumroll please, putting together Anthony's work with me (getting rid of CA security suite along the way) along with Noam's instruction from a couple pages back to create a BlackBerry bookmark with browser designation option of Hotspot Browser, got the trick done. Now, I will have to put some security back in, but IT'S WORKING! Thanks again.
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@RkGoodwin:
Opening the HTML page in Common Files on it's own won't show the graphics because that's not the way it's meant to be viewed. It'll only load the graphics in the AP view by visiting http://YOURIPADDRESS:8777/ahp
As far as changing the labels, ActivePhone pulls the labels for the PalmPad from your ActiveHome Pro module names. To change any labels/names, you must rename it in ActiveHome Pro. If you want to change the font style, that's when you'll edit the HTML file with an HTML editor. If you want to change the graphics used, that's where you adjust the files in the Art folder. They must be exactly the same size, names, and type unless you're editing the HTML file to compensate. The sample file in the AHSDK is completely separate.
If you're not seeing any labels on the PalmPad when you should be, make sure it's set to the right House Code by tapping/clicking on the House Code dial until you get to yours.
Hope this helps!
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Hmmm...your explanation below all confirms what I thought also...but for some reason palm pad does not display my labels...it works fine but no labels...any suggestions? I am running ver 3.285
@RkGoodwin:
Opening the HTML page in Common Files on it's own won't show the graphics because that's not the way it's meant to be viewed. It'll only load the graphics in the AP view by visiting http://YOURIPADDRESS:8777/ahp
As far as changing the labels, ActivePhone pulls the labels for the PalmPad from your ActiveHome Pro module names. To change any labels/names, you must rename it in ActiveHome Pro. If you want to change the font style, that's when you'll edit the HTML file with an HTML editor. If you want to change the graphics used, that's where you adjust the files in the Art folder. They must be exactly the same size, names, and type unless you're editing the HTML file to compensate. The sample file in the AHSDK is completely separate.
If you're not seeing any labels on the PalmPad when you should be, make sure it's set to the right House Code by tapping/clicking on the House Code dial until you get to yours.
Hope this helps!
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I also had this problem and the only way I was able to fix it was to create a new .ahx file.
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I tried that just now...cleared the interface and re-saved still a no go...
Started all over with a complete new .ahx file works like a charm to bad I have to do all my hard work over again...I tried the merge function...it stopped working...thanks for the help.
I also had this problem and the only way I was able to fix it was to create a new .ahx file.
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You opened ActiveHome Pro, clicked file, new, and recreated all of your modules and macros?
Clearing the interface and downloading again won't fix the issue, it is most likely a corrupt .ahx file which holds your entire setup.
If you have a backup of your .ahx file, I would try restoring it. If not, try a clean file with one or two modules and see if ActivePhone then displays the labels.
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...it is most likely a corrupt .ahx file which holds your entire setup.
Sounds like that's what's happened to @RKGoodwin. He tried to merge hsi old file in, but it doesn't work then.
@RKGoodwin:
It happens to all of us sooner or later. It helps to save an extra copy of your .AHX file every now and then, before you make major changes (just in case you have to back track to before an error).
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strange issue with this app...hope someone can help!
install went fine...AHPro interface has no issues...firefly remotes work fine
but...
the 'virtual' palmpad remote does nothing. labels show up..click button to turn light off and nothing.
any ideas?
thanks!!!
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@1eyedjack;
If it's showing up with module names, it should be working. Check the Activity Monitor on your AHP PC (press F2 in AHP) and see if anything shows up when you press buttons in ActivePhone.
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no dice...checked the activity log...commands from activephone dont show...ugh
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B:(
this is frustrating...nothing to the app...'lables show up fine'...rebooted, reinstalled, and still nothing.
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X10 is NOT "plug-n-play" You do have to work with it. In our electronic age, there are probably dozens of devices that put noise on the powerline that block X10 signals.
One of the biggest noise producers are TVs and computers.
I have an x10 system that works fine, but every computer is on a noise filter and you may need a phase coupler so X10 signals can cross the phases. Most houses get AC power at 220 volts and in the house the breaker boxes are divided so each phase is 110 volts.
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Thanks Dan. I know it isnt plug-n-play.
My frustration is from the fact that I am using a browser, on the same PC as the AHPro interface, and trying to control devices in the same room. All other methods work, i.e. AHPro interface, palmpad remote, keychain remote, and the Firefly HTPC remote I use for controlling lights and my pvr.
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Have you looked at the software download area to see if a recent update has happened?
I know there where some recent ones in the download section.
http://www.x10.com/support/support_soft1.htm
Yes you get a sales pitch pop up even in support. ::)
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yep...I have the latest .. 3.293
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yep...I have the latest .. 3.293
Okay. Not to worry. A few things we've determined:- The PalmPad shows up, so content is getting to the browser from AHP, with module names
- The modules and AHP work fine, but commands don't get through from ActivePhone to your AHP setup
A few more things to try:
1) Do you have any security software installed? CA and Comodo security products are the worst offenders for this.
2) When you click an On/Off button, does the little red light on the PalmPad blink?
3) Pick a lamp that is close to you which you can see. Write down it's House Code and Unit Code. Fill that in to the following URL : http://127.0.0.1:8777/image?Act=sendplc&State=0&X10Cmd=On&X10Addr=A1
That URL, with the right HC/UC of your device, will turn the module on. Try it and see if it works.
Report back to us with your results, and we'll be able to take it from there :)
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thanks for the replies! I appreciate it.
Here is what I have as far as an update:
A few more things to try:
1) Do you have any security software installed? CA and Comodo security products are the worst offenders for this.
AVG
2) When you click an On/Off button, does the little red light on the PalmPad blink?
Yes
3) Pick a lamp that is close to you which you can see. Write down it's House Code and Unit Code. Fill that in to the following URL : http://127.0.0.1:8777/image?Act=sendplc&State=0&X10Cmd=On&X10Addr=A1
Tried this already with no luck. Found the line in that fantasticly organized summary post!
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Followup from earlier, Anthony, after we found CA 2007 security suite was my main problem, reinstalled with CA 2010 and all's well.
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i forgot to post the other modules i have loaded are myhouseonline and smart macros
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Followup from earlier, Anthony, after we found CA 2007 security suite was my main problem, reinstalled with CA 2010 and all's well.
A rail friend of mine used to work for CA, he left when all they put out was junk. He used to run a small software outfit that was bought by CA, they treated him fine for the first year, then left when they changed the software to one with more bugs than a beehive.
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@1EyedJack:
Try and set up a new .ahx file, with only one module (the one that would be close to you for testing), just to see if that works.
Very puzzling problem, I'm just trying to think of all possible combinations to go through.
@wmarkhay
Good to hear!
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sorry for the delay...i was out of town...tried setting up a new file, lable showed up fine, but same result.
light flashed and no response from the module.
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sorry for the delay...i was out of town...tried setting up a new file, lable showed up fine, but same result.
light flashed and no response from the module.
Sorry for the delay as I've been quite busy lately. Secod suggestion: several (and I mean several) fixes have been made lately with the software. Download an updated copy and tell us how it works out.
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OK - Help!
I have just recently acquired all of the new mobile apps and am looking forward to using them. I realize they are somewhat "early" and understood that was what I was getting for the "introductory pricing". No complaints there. But here's my problem:
I originally purchased ActivePhone and iWatchMobile. I re-installed all my software (AHP, iWatchout, Smart Macros, and OnAlert plugin), then the ActivePhone and iWatchMobile modules at the 3.285 levels. Everything worked just fine - lights turned on and off, I could see the cameras, etc. This is on an iPhone 4. Then I decided to order iWatchMobile Pro and OnAlertMobile. So I first un-installed everything, downloaded the newest versions of AHP and all the plugins (3.295), and reinstalled them, starting with AHP, then the non-mobile plugins (everything except MyHouse Online), then ActivePhone, iWatchMobile Pro and OnAlert.
AHP from the local computer still works fine. But from the iPhone only the iWatchMobile Pro works - the cameras are labeled correctly and I get video. The ActivePhone Firecracker handset shows up but is totally blank (no labels on any of my house code/device combinations (I have more than 20). The buttons seem to depress and the red light flashes but no actual data is sent on either the RF or powerline interface (F2 from AHP) and no lights actually turn on/off. Also the OnAlert app shows the mini remote but does not arm or disarm the DS7000 console (a macro in AHP to arm the unit does work if I invoke it from the local PC) so I know all the hardware is working.
I cleared the cache, cookies and history in Safari on the iPhone but I still can't get these two apps to work.
What should I do?
Kevin
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@kevinwheeler:
Do you have "Use Security over WiFi" checked off for the ActivePhone "Invite A Cellphone" dialog? If so, I think you and I just discovered the same bug.
EDIT: Go for version 3.296 today, it corrects the issue.
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Yes - I had it checked. And yes, I just downloaded all the 3.296 versions and it indeed did fix the problem with ActivePhone. Thanks.
Just a side note - after running the update just for ActivePhone and then replying to update all applications OnAlert Mobile did not work correctly - ActivePhone did but OnAlert Mobile did not. When I ran the individual 3.296 update of OnAlert Mobile then that started working correctly and now everything seems to be working.
Kevin
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@kevinwheeler
Yep. Sounds about right with the installers. As noted in the iWatchMobile Pro thread, going in from 3.296 forward, any of the installers will update all the files you already have installed.
The only time to run the separate installers is if you're adding a new plugin or doing a re-install.
Anyways, I'm glad it worked. >!
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How would I edit the PalmPad html file to use a smaller sans serif font for my button labels?
I'm sure that it's simple and should be obvious but I'm just not a CSS kinda guy.
Thanks.
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How would I edit the PalmPad html file to use a smaller sans serif font for my button labels?
Open up PalmPad.html in a text editor like Notepad. Scroll down about 3/4 of the way through the document until you see:
<style type="text/css">It should be at around line 374.
What you'll want to modify is the "body" section.
Normally it's:
body
{
background-color:White;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}
While you'd want to make it something like:
body
{
font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
background-color:White;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}
The font size is in a section further down, known as ".Label". It's already set to "small", perhaps you'd like to try "x-small" or "xx-small".
A good reference for CSS Font properties? http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_font.asp
Hope this helps!
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How would I edit the PalmPad html file to use a smaller sans serif font for my button labels?
Open up PalmPad.html in a text editor like Notepad. Scroll down about 3/4 of the way through the document until you see...
Excellent. Looks much cleaner. I went with the x-small since some of my labels are kind of long.
Thanks Anthony. Appreciate the help.
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Is there a place for bug reports re ActivePhone?
Lacking that for the moment and in the event that this forum is read by X10 developers...
Reorienting the screen on the iPhone messes ActivePhone all up. Once it's flipped to landscape and back it doesn't seem that it can be "pinched" to resize until you flip it back to portrait, back to landscape, and back to portrait again.
Also as a nit pick, with longer labels there's some gray background behind the labels that extends into the white space between the label area and the button area.
Last, just as a personal preference, while the house code wheel looks nice and follows the overall PalmPad model, it's really kind of a pain to use. I'd rather have a text input that pops up when you tap the image of the wheel. Then you could go back to showing the changed house code letter as it's now done. That is, same appearance and functionality that it has now, but with a text input when tapped to change rather than trying to hit microscopic areas around the wheel.
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Is there a place for bug reports re ActivePhone?
Lacking that for the moment and in the event that this forum is read by X10 developers...
Reorienting the screen on the iPhone messes ActivePhone all up. Once it's flipped to landscape and back it doesn't seem that it can be "pinched" to resize until you flip it back to portrait, back to landscape, and back to portrait again.
Also as a nit pick, with longer labels there's some gray background behind the labels that extends into the white space between the label area and the button area.
Last, just as a personal preference, while the house code wheel looks nice and follows the overall PalmPad model, it's really kind of a pain to use. I'd rather have a text input that pops up when you tap the image of the wheel. Then you could go back to showing the changed house code letter as it's now done. That is, same appearance and functionality that it has now, but with a text input when tapped to change rather than trying to hit microscopic areas around the wheel.
This forum is read by ActivePhone developers. It is a good place to discuss features, issues using the software, or any bugs you encouter.
We'll look into the iPhone resizing issue.
You can tap the house code wheel and it will advance by one house code per tap. This is easier to tap then the individual area for each house code.
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Hi all - thanks for the help and suggestions, but I have given up... lol
I bought Eventghost app for ipad (i already use eventghost for everything else).
Now I can control everything - htpc, tv, receiver, x10 - with the touch of the screen!
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Just wanted to thank those that have contributed to this thread, and the sticky, all ready. With your help I was able to get this up and running, for the most part, over wifi and 3G. I did experience 2 problems though...
Problem #1, my Activephone was not loading any of the labels which made using activephone very challenging! From the sticky thread I saw how to modify the url to see your module names and tried that to see if that would work. That produce an error on the label of one on my modules...apparently using the "&" is a no no and this caused activephone to be unable to populate my labels. After I changed the "&" to "and" and reloaded my activephone url again I was able to finally see what my module labels were.
Problem #2, and still unsolved, is I am unable to properly dim or brighten my respected modules. My lamp modules and my 3 way switches just go from one extreme to the other when pushing (one quick tap) the respected dim/brighten buttons. There seems no way to stop this. I tried reloading the activephone software to no avail. It should be noted that I can properly dim/brighten from AHP. I was going to keep trouble shooting this but after one my modules went to over 1200% I think I might just let this one go and live without the dim/brighten option from activephone. This was enough to put a little electrical fire scare in me (don't know how possible that would be in this instance) and this had me madly trying to shut off that module to make sure this didn't happen.
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I am unable to properly dim or brighten my respected modules.
I'm also seeing this with ActivePhone and was curious if there is some way to get proper dim/bright commands.
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Problem #2, and still unsolved, is I am unable to properly dim or brighten my respected modules. My lamp modules and my 3 way switches just go from one extreme to the other when pushing (one quick tap) the respected dim/brighten buttons. There seems no way to stop this. I tried reloading the activephone software to no avail. It should be noted that I can properly dim/brighten from AHP. I was going to keep trouble shooting this but after one my modules went to over 1200% I think I might just let this one go and live without the dim/brighten option from activephone. This was enough to put a little electrical fire scare in me (don't know how possible that would be in this instance) and this had me madly trying to shut off that module to make sure this didn't happen.
What model of phone do you have?
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For me, this is happening with both my iTouch and Blackberry.
I'm wondering if it possibly has to do with my lamp modules being soft start.
This also causes weird issues with ws12a switches with soft start.
Any chance having them set as LM14As in AHP would cause odd behavior?
Edit: Changing the ws12a to the actual module type in AHP still causes this.
If I try using ActivePhone to dim/brighten the ws12as the modules also seem to lock up and stop responding until I physically turn them off and on again.
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I am unable to properly dim or brighten my respected modules.
I'm also seeing this with ActivePhone and was curious if there is some way to get proper dim/bright commands.
Same here with iPhone and basic lamp module. Hitting the on button for the lamp will stop it. Off button also but, as expected, lamp turns off right after stopping the ramp. Actually if I remember right from playing around with it earlier today, hitting any on/off button, for that lamp or another device, seems to stop it.
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My active phone was the latest version,as of last night, and downloaded directly from the X10 website.
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Security devices installed via OnAlert show up in ActivePhone. Seem to fill into the first empty spaces/buttons and they'll move if you install some device to one of the slots they occupy. Happens regardless what the house code setting is at the console.
Now if you could use them to arm/disarm, that might actually be useful; otherwise, kind of pointless. Any way to not have them displayed?
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@Netropy
Change the module to a regular one (say, a lamp module), then assign it a House Code and Unit Code that's outside of what you normally use. As an example, I use M for "Monitored".
Afterwards, change it back to the appropriate Security module. It won't show up under your previously used house code anymore.
Repeat x Number of modules.
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Build 3.299 of ActivePhone seems to have fixed the oddities with dim/bright commands for anyone experiencing issues with this.
Thanks for the update. >!
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Yeah, I spoke about it with them yesterday, so it's good to see it's gone through.
:D
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I'm having a problem with my Blackberry and ActivePhone. I'm actually able to hit the page with an iPad, but the Blackberry gets an error 504 Gateway Timeout.
Any thoughts or ideas? The Blackberry says its connected to the WiFi.
s.
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@lorcott:
There was something a few pages back about setting a bookmark in the BB's browser, and setting it to "Hotspot Browser" instead.
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I am having issues with my android phone and activephome and Iwatch mobile, when I first install it, it works fine but then the changing ip addresses I believe are causing an issue and I can't access it at a later time without resending the link again from ahp
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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i am posting this because i also have a blackberry. I have had active phone for about 3 months and have never been able to get this to work. I am able to connect from the other computers on my network but not from outside my network. Until now, sort of.
I have a netbook that connects to the Verizon network and that is the the computer that i am using as my test subject since it doesn't connect to my network wifi. Anyway until today i have never been able to connect to ahp with that computer or my BB phone. So today i have still been trying things and i have achieved some light at the end of the tunnel. I went to whatismyip.com like many others have suggested, and wrote down the address that it showed. I then use that address in the browser of the netbook. I type http://71.X.XXX>X>XX, then i put a " :8777/ahp " at the end and now for some reason it actually worked and the remote showed up on the screen and i was able to turn lights on and off. I was very happy at this point. Now for the BB phone. I turn off the wifi on the BB so i know for sure i am doing this thru the internet. I typed in the same address as i did on the netbook and it did actually bring up the remote. but none of the labels showed up on the remote and i couldn't actually push any of the buttons or change the house code.
But this is where i think i have figured a few things out. First of all my blackberry phone is an older one, it is a 8320 model, now things they dont tell you is the 8300 series phones are actually considered 2G versions, not 3G or the new 4G series. I feel this is the main problem, it is too slow to respond properly. Another important thing is- R.I.M ( research in motion ) the company that claims the rights to the BB phone, have quit support for the phone, by this i mean there is no new updates for the operating system or the java update. Andthis i feel is the biggest problem with the phone not working properly.
Now i am going to upgrade to a new phone shortly and will post back but until then i cant be sure if it will work or not. I am thinking that it will work because many others have had good success with this and their BB's
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... then the changing ip addresses I believe are causing an issue and I can't access it at a later time without resending the link again from ahp
See: http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=21436.0
Specifically Troubleshooting, section 3.
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But this is where i think i have figured a few things out. First of all my blackberry phone is an older one, it is a 8320 model...
It does seem like the browser on your particular phone doesn't "like" the way the page is presented/handled. I'm certain you'll be fine on a newer model. :)