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Title: Ver. 3.295
Post by: BaBaLou. on November 03, 2010, 06:39:25 AM
I was up early and noticed an update to 3.295 thanks to a AHP Dev  message.

     It WORKS and all problems reported have supsided and we have an awesome AHP running great.

Email is up and running, ftp execution are perfect, ninja is running a bit faster, so it seems :-\. OnAlert is functions nicely, though I do see a new activity of MTCDDVD in relation to RF from sensors. But at least the activity is calmed down and all the new features are still there and working.

Still discovering, but I will say  :)% AWSOME  :)%  job X10 on a great product AND service to your customers.  #:)

                                           >!
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: Noam on November 03, 2010, 10:07:00 AM
Well, maybe THIS version will fix my issues. There is only one way to find out....
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: delibaker on November 03, 2010, 10:33:36 AM
When installing this release will it also update all currently installed plugins such as SmartMacros, OnAlert, OnAlert Mobile, etc or do I need to download those plugins as well?

Thanks for you help
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: Noam on November 03, 2010, 11:27:27 AM
When installing this release will it also update all currently installed plugins such as SmartMacros, OnAlert, OnAlert Mobile, etc or do I need to download those plugins as well?

Thanks for you help

From my experience, the installer is designed to update the plugins at the same time as the main program.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: X10 Dev on November 03, 2010, 02:17:04 PM
When installing this release will it also update all currently installed plugins such as SmartMacros, OnAlert, OnAlert Mobile, etc or do I need to download those plugins as well?

Thanks for you help

Starting with release 295, all AHP system files and plugin files get updated with each installer.  So you just need to run a single installer.  Prior to 295, some plugins were updated with a single installer, but other plugins (such as iWatchout or MyHouse) which had specialized files would need their own installer run as well.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: J.B. on November 03, 2010, 02:58:18 PM
For some reason with this 3.295 build I'm not seeing arm/disarm commands in the activity monitor.
Instead I see M MTCDDVD.
I haven't noticed A00TV or M Unknown, but not seeing any security commands is kind of a pain now.

The email issue seems to have been fixed though.
Thanks for the quick fix on this.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: ErikP on November 03, 2010, 04:27:32 PM
As part of the 00TV and A unknown activity monitor fix I updated the activity monitor to report a lot of new commands, but it looks like one of them at least is interfering with correctly displaying security codes.  I am fixing this now and will have a minor update to 296 soon.  Anyone having any other problems with 295 that i can fix today? :)
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: lsammarco on November 03, 2010, 04:28:42 PM
So how do I get v3.295?
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: J.B. on November 03, 2010, 04:36:41 PM
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As part of the 00TV and A unknown activity monitor fix I updated the activity monitor to report a lot of new commands, but it looks like one of them at least is interfering with correctly displaying security codes.  I am fixing this now and will have a minor update to 296 soon.  Anyone having any other problems with 295 that i can fix today? Smiley

Thanks.

So far, anything else I've had a chance to look over seems to be working quite well.

Thanks again for the updates.


So, with new builds once 3.296 is released, anyone with all the plug-ins can just update with a single installer and have all core files updated for all plug-ins?

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So how do I get v3.295?

You can find any x10 software and updates here:

http://www.x10.com/support/support_soft1.htm
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: ErikP on November 03, 2010, 06:01:49 PM
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So, with new builds once 3.296 is released, anyone with all the plug-ins can just update with a single installer and have all core files updated for all plug-ins?
You should be able to update all of your plugins with any installer with 295 now, and going forward all of the installers will do this as well.  Even if you don't have all of the plugins, running an updated installer for a plugin you already have installed will update all of the files for the ActiveHome Pro software you do have.  If you are doing a clean install you will still need to run all the plugin installers to rebuild what plugins are accessible.

Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: BaBaLou. on November 03, 2010, 06:16:29 PM
The update of 3.295 is doing its job very well so far at all my locations.  :)%

The error line M MTCDDVD is there and noticed it coming from the RF signal of my MS sensors but my DS sensor or remotes is not reporting at all in the Activity monitor. The sensors show they are working and functioning correctly with macros and the DS7000 unit as well in AHP but reporter differently in the activity report. There are the lack of other activity reported and all are in relationship to OnAlert.

Other than that. It has functioned very nicely as far as I have tell.

One bonus for me is, with all these changes to AHP, trying the pro version OnAlert for my BB bold 9000 ( it seems you have one to test it on ) would be a nice addition for me to make very soon.

Thanks for all the attention to the forum.

I would not be out of place to say that if X10 want to sell the hype, then facebook and such is fine. Got a problem and an honest responce, then the members of the forum go far and beyond the call of loyalty to help anyone. The problem is rooted out and on there way. A happy customer for all.
Fix the problem, increase the interest and fine tune a product and sell, sell sell, were ever you can.

This recent update and other new stuff has added to my addiction to the world of automation and X10, would do anything to help feed the addiction.

Many Many thanks
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: J.B. on November 03, 2010, 06:35:11 PM
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You should be able to update all of your plugins with any installer with 295 now, and going forward all of the installers will do this as well.  Even if you don't have all of the plugins, running an updated installer for a plugin you already have installed will update all of the files for the ActiveHome Pro software you do have.  If you are doing a clean install you will still need to run all the plugin installers to rebuild what plugins are accessible.

Thanks for verifying.
This will make updates a bit quicker and easier which is a plus.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: Noam on November 03, 2010, 11:45:43 PM
As part of the 00TV and A unknown activity monitor fix I updated the activity monitor to report a lot of new commands, but it looks like one of them at least is interfering with correctly displaying security codes.  I am fixing this now and will have a minor update to 296 soon.  Anyone having any other problems with 295 that i can fix today? :)
Not so much a problem, but how about giving the option of writing the Activity Log to a Human-readable format in an external log file? That would make backing up the log really easy.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: J.B. on November 03, 2010, 11:56:34 PM
I don't see why you can't do this now.
If you open the Activity Monitor, click file, save as, and save the log, you can easily open it in FireFox etc...

If you change the files extension to .txt you can also read it in plain text.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: Noam on November 04, 2010, 06:36:34 AM
Yes, but I can only do that by going through the interface.
I would like to see an option to have AHP dump the log out automatically, preferably in real-time.
That way, it would get included in my nightly backup, AND I can check the event logs easily from another PC.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: J.B. on November 04, 2010, 06:47:40 AM
Ah, ok, I see what you're saying now.  :'
I agree, that could be convenient.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: Henri T on November 04, 2010, 08:55:29 AM
Hi guys !

After I've installed 3.296 over 3.293, the x10nets service didn't started.

I tried to start it manually with  no success. 

It cause macros and other things to not working properly.

What can I do to repair this ?
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: Noam on November 04, 2010, 09:09:24 AM
Ah, ok, I see what you're saying now.  :'
I agree, that could be convenient.
Especially now that they have hard-coded in some "filters" to the Activity log, so we can't even see what is REALLY going on.
Giving us an option to dump EVERYTHING out to a real-time log file (perhaps give us the option of filtering it ourselves - or use a separate tool on your own to do that) would let us see what is not being shown, and might help us diagnose trouble we might be having.
For example, hiding the "Receive RF A Unknown" lines doesn't help me if I'm trying to resolve the CAUSE of that problem. Now I have no way of knowing if my CM15A is re-initializing every few hours (or more often, even), since there is n indicator of it in the logs anymore.

If they don't want to put that into AHP, then give us a standalone tool that can do it. I can't imagine it is that hard for them to write it.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: ErikP on November 04, 2010, 07:32:42 PM
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Hi guys !

After I've installed 3.296 over 3.293, the x10nets service didn't started.

I tried to start it manually with  no success. 

It cause macros and other things to not working properly.

What can I do to repair this ?

Do you get any error when trying to start the service?  What version of windows are you using?  Almost nothing should work if the x10net service did not start properly.

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Not so much a problem, but how about giving the option of writing the Activity Log to a Human-readable format in an external log file? That would make backing up the log really easy.
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I would like to see an option to have AHP dump the log out automatically, preferably in meantime.
That way, it would get included in my nightly backup, AND I can check the event logs easily from another PC
Its not human readable, but by default the history files are at "C:\ProgramData\X10 Settings".  I did a quick test and was able to transfer the history log to another computer by copying that folder over.  Its not the whole solution you have suggested, and there are some other settings and saved variable files in that folder, but hopefully it will help you in the meantime.  I will add your requests to the list of suggested features as well.

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Especially now that they have hard-coded in some "filters" to the Activity log, so we can't even see what is REALLY going on.
The only non-configurable filters at the moment are for this command specifically and for security codes you are not monitoring.  So you are seeing pretty close to everything as it is.

I can certainly turn A RF Transceiver Initialize back on if you want it.  I don't think we will do a special release just for this, but it wouldn't be hard to add for next build.  We filtered this out because it is one of the signals which is internal only and never used to be logged to the activity monitor.  It is also not a very useful message to have.  It simply means the transceiver completed a handshake with the PC, which it does quite a lot for many reasons.  It doesn't mean your hardware was offline, or that an error occurred, and is just normal operation to happen from time to time.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: Henri T on November 05, 2010, 01:03:02 AM
I'm using MS Windows XP SP2 on Pentium 4  2.8GHz with 1.5 Go of RAM.
It's a old machine dedicated for AHP.

After a reboot, the service was started correctly.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: Noam on November 05, 2010, 06:54:12 AM
I can certainly turn A RF Transceiver Initialize back on if you want it.  I don't think we will do a special release just for this, but it wouldn't be hard to add for next build.  We filtered this out because it is one of the signals which is internal only and never used to be logged to the activity monitor.  It is also not a very useful message to have.  It simply means the transceiver completed a handshake with the PC, which it does quite a lot for many reasons.  It doesn't mean your hardware was offline, or that an error occurred, and is just normal operation to happen from time to time.

Erik -
This is the first time I've heard that the multiple handshakes per day is NORMAL. I've been working with Kevin, and he told me that it is NOT normal, and should not be happening as often as it is.
I have found that the handshaking often occurs immediately following some timer commands, and that the ones immediately after that don't run (or in some cases they DO run, but are not logged by the system).

Kevin indicated to me that this IS a problem, and he was working with the developers to track it down and find a fix. He also said he suspected that this frequent handshaking might be what is causing my flags to "error on" from time to time.

I hope this can get resolved soon.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: peg-leg on November 05, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
Is the hourly handshake the same thing as the hourly reporting from DS10A's?  If so, not reporting these events might solve issues I've had with garage door DS10a's reporting falsely and being anounced through BVC. ie: ("the garage door is closed", each hour.)  I've solved this issue with a couple macros, but simplicity would be better.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: ErikP on November 05, 2010, 09:13:43 PM
These two signals are unrelated.

I think the hourly report from the DS10A is just a normal signal.  It does not differentiate itself from a valid state change signal in any way, so I don't think we could filter this signal out without breaking valid functionality either way.
Title: Re: Ver. 3.295
Post by: david on November 13, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Sheesh all these posts about nightmare upgrades and version numbers ... Should I really upgrade at all if everything's working (sort of)? All I want is for it to be faster and more reliable. Really.