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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => ActiveHome Pro General => Topic started by: pondo on June 18, 2011, 10:36:58 AM
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Active Home Pro with lastest version 3.315 & new CM15A
my activity monitor displays several times each day the message at a specific time sometimes repeated in a few seconds, others in a few minutes, then a few hours later the same message string again from the monitor message "Receive RF M MTCDDVD"
What does this mean? I do have one or 2 Macros named "M2" & "M3" but they are not triggered at these times and the message does not identify with the prefix of "Macro" .
Also on the "Find other computers" tab thaere is a red block at code "M1" with the date time stamp of the most recent message "Receive RF M MTCDDVD"
Can anybody explain where the why the CM15A and ActHm Pro is receiving & displaying "Receive RF M MTCDDVD"
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That message is from a Security Sensor checking in about every hour.
Do you have a Security Console?
Do you have any Security Sensors? DS10A,DS12A,MS10A,MS18A?
Do you have any of the AHP Plug Ins and if so which ones?
If you print out the Activity Monitor Screen. File Tab in Activity Monitor. Print Choice. There is extra information in the print out that does not show on the computer screen. Like "Security Module - Sensor Closed", "Security Module - Delayed Sensor triggered" Messages.
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thanks for your reply.
I have no security console nor any security devices either only
3 or 4 newest appliance modules,
15 newest X10 pro relay XPS3 XPS Series 20Amp wall switches,
and 4 Leviton 4 way wired wall switches
Where is it likely that an RF signal is being transmitted and received by the CM15A that is identified as " M MTCDDVD " ?
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If you print out the Activity Monitor. Does it give you any clues?
I don't see anything in you list of modules that sends an RF signals. Except the CM15A itself.
Do you have anything else? Like a repeater coupler?
There was a problem in an earlier version of AHP showing that message.
If we see more users reporting this and not an isolated problem. Maybe it crept back into 3.315
I can't test it myself as I have Security Modules sending messages periodically.
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The M MTCDDVD has never really been fixed. Somewhere in the system a security command is being read without a security code attached. This is a valid extended command M MTCDDVD. I am still hunting this guy, and I have plugged up several sources of this command, but it is still showing up on occasion.
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The M MTCDDVD has never really been fixed. Somewhere in the system a security command is being read without a security code attached. This is a valid extended command M MTCDDVD. I am still hunting this guy, and I have plugged up several sources of this command, but it is still showing up on occasion.
Don't give up! The "hole" will be in the last place you look (of course). ;)
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Ok Folks, on trying to troubleshoot this repeated appearance of > activity monitor message "Receive RF M MTCDDVD":
Its not comimg from either my wonderful Toshiba outdoor & Panasonic indoor Hunt, detect, shoot & record surveillance CAMERAS.
Its comimg from something in the CM 15A and/or the Active Home software--only AHP, with 2 plugins "ANT" & "Smart Macros" installed.
I've de-installed the June 8-2011 version, the most current version, and stepped back one version at a time with a reinstall back to version 2-14-11 v3.306. ( noteworthy, while I was using those earlier versions I don't recall any issues of the >activity monitor message "Receive RF M MTCDDVD".
Its occurence now with all recent versions is not related to the most recent issues since my activity monitor has displayed 22 occurences since 8:51 am until 1.05 pm today.
Can anyone give me any other suggestions how to stop this?
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Ok Folks, on trying to troubleshoot this repeated appearance of > activity monitor message "Receive RF M MTCDDVD":
Its not comimg from either my wonderful Toshiba outdoor & Panasonic indoor Hunt, detect, shoot & record surveillance CAMERAS.
Its comimg from something in the CM 15A and/or the Active Home software--only AHP, with 2 plugins "ANT" & "Smart Macros" installed.
I've de-installed the June 8-2011 version, the most current version, and stepped back one version at a time with a reinstall back to version 2-14-11 v3.306. ( noteworthy, while I was using those earlier versions I don't recall any issues of the >activity monitor message "Receive RF M MTCDDVD".
Its occurence now with all recent versions is not related to the most recent issues since my activity monitor has displayed 22 occurences since 8:51 am until 1.05 pm today.
Can anyone give me any other suggestions how to stop this?
This is a bug in AHP, and has been around for a while. The developers are still actively working on it.
My advice is to install the latest version (currently 3.315), and to keep checking the Software Download Page (http://www.x10.com/support/support_soft1.htm) for a newer version. (The built-in "check for updates" function is still broken - that's also on the list).
You can check the current "Bug List" (user-created) here:
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=22373.0
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Ok Folks, on trying to troubleshoot this repeated appearance of > activity monitor message "Receive RF M MTCDDVD":
Its not comimg from either my wonderful Toshiba outdoor & Panasonic indoor Hunt, detect, shoot & record surveillance CAMERAS.
Its comimg from something in the CM 15A and/or the Active Home software--only AHP, with 2 plugins "ANT" & "Smart Macros" installed.
I've de-installed the June 8-2011 version, the most current version, and stepped back one version at a time with a reinstall back to version 2-14-11 v3.306. ( noteworthy, while I was using those earlier versions I don't recall any issues of the >activity monitor message "Receive RF M MTCDDVD".
Its occurence now with all recent versions is not related to the most recent issues since my activity monitor has displayed 22 occurences since 8:51 am until 1.05 pm today.
Can anyone give me any other suggestions how to stop this?
This is a bug in AHP, and has been around for a while. The developers are still actively working on it.
My advice is to install the latest version (currently 3.315), and to keep checking the Software Download Page (http://www.x10.com/support/support_soft1.htm) for a newer version. (The built-in "check for updates" function is still broken - that's also on the list).
You can check the current "Bug List" (user-created) here:
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=22373.0
I'm running 3.310, no plug-ins and my Activity Monitor shows no unusual entries, so I suspect it's one of the plug-ins is the culprit.
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I'm running 3.310, no plug-ins and my Activity Monitor shows no unusual entries, so I suspect it's one of the plug-ins is the culprit.
Dan -
I'm pretty sure it is one of the Security plugins that is causing this problem for some users.
Have you had problems with 3.315 at all, or is just that your 3.310 is stable enough that you don't want to mess with it?
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Sorry I saw that message with NO plugins. In my case I know it was the DS12A Security Sensors messages being logged in the Activity Monitor.
Adding the On Alert plug in did allow me to add the modules to AHP and see what message was from what sensor.
AHP 3.315.
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I'm running 3.310, no plug-ins and my Activity Monitor shows no unusual entries, so I suspect it's one of the plug-ins is the culprit.
Dan -
I'm pretty sure it is one of the Security plugins that is causing this problem for some users.
Have you had problems with 3.315 at all, or is just that your 3.310 is stable enough that you don't want to mess with it?
I had tried 3.315, but had problems with it, so back to 3.310 as it's fine. I had suggested that the next release of AHP use 3.310 as the base since I've had problems with all the releases post 3.310. I keep copies of all AHP releases on a 250 Zip disk.
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Sorry I saw that message with NO plugins. In my case I know it was the DS12A Security Sensors messages being logged in the Activity Monitor.
Adding the On Alert plug in did allow me to add the modules to AHP and see what message was from what sensor.
AHP 3.315.
I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing it out.
I don't know why more of us aren't seeing it, then.
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Have you had problems with 3.315 at all, or is just that your 3.310 is stable enough that you don't want to mess with it?
I had tried 3.315, but had problems with it, so back to 3.310 as it's fine. I had suggested that the next release of AHP use 3.310 as the base since I've had problems with all the releases post 3.310.
What problems did you have? Every issue that gets reported to the developers is something that they can add to their list to work on.
I keep copies of all AHP releases on a 250 Zip disk.
I keep them on my hard drive. (The Zip250 has been sitting in a drawer for a few years - Like the Zip100 I have in a box in the closet, I outgrew it, too!)
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OK Noam,
so it, "Receive RF M MTCDDVD" is on somebody's bug list and some developer says "its persistent".
But when is some developer going to get it fixed?
It is not in my cases coming from any Security plug in, since only 2 Pluins, 1-Smart Macro & 2 Ant For My house. Its not Hardware related and in fact can not be seen on the power line.
I have had the XTBM Volpmeter (the outstanding technical and reliable X10 signal meter from Jeff Volp ) monitoring my entire set up and it never sees anything from the XTB-IIR repeater that the the XTB-IIR has sensed on either the power line nor from RF.
The XTB-IIR never repeats any RF signal like is registered multiple times on my activity monitor as "Receive RF M MTCDDVD" .
Can we persuade an X10 software fellow to please work out the "persistencies" and fix this bug which is emaanating from software, without any trigger and cannot be seen on the powerline?
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Have you had problems with 3.315 at all, or is just that your 3.310 is stable enough that you don't want to mess with it?
I had tried 3.315, but had problems with it, so back to 3.310 as it's fine. I had suggested that the next release of AHP use 3.310 as the base since I've had problems with all the releases post 3.310.
What problems did you have? Every issue that gets reported to the developers is something that they can add to their list to work on.
I keep copies of all AHP releases on a 250 Zip disk.
I keep them on my hard drive. (The Zip250 has been sitting in a drawer for a few years - Like the Zip100 I have in a box in the closet, I outgrew it, too!)
The problems I had are already In the bug list. That's why I went back to 3.310.
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how is Receive RF M MTCDDVD affecting the functionality of the program? It's there, but it's not doing any harm on my system.
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The XTB-IIR does not receive any RF signals and if no X10 RF receiver puts such a message on the line. It will never see it.
Neither would the XTBM.
Other than being in the log and troubling you. Is it effecting your operations?
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Try this: Back up your .ahx files, then use the Control Panel Add-Remove to totally uninstall AHP and all plug-ins. Use Windows Explorer to make sure all folders relating to AHP are gone. Once that is done reinstall AHP and the plug-ins you have plus your .ahx files. Hopefully those "Receive RF M MTCDDVD" will Be gone as well.
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The issue isn't a pluggin but a Security Sensor.
Even the SDK reports incoming RF from the problem security sensors.
If this reported activity is truly bother some it is easy to find the problem sensor! That is if it is yours and not a neighbours. ::) :'
Once you find the problem sensor, 9 times out of 10 replacing the batteries fixes the issue (at least in my case it did)
>!
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The OP didn't mention that as the problem seemed to pup up when he got 3.315. From his posts that seemed to be as that's how his post was made. If it is from a neighbor who has X10 Security equipment it has to be a neighbor on the SAME transformer as pondo is. Maybe pondo needs to check that out.
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Dan; It is an RF command so the power transformer should have no influence on this problem.
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Brian H.
in your reply #17 you wrote:
>>>>>>>> The XTB-IIR does not receive any RF signals and if no X10 RF receiver puts such a message on the line. It will never see it.
Neither would the XTBM.
Other than being in the log and troubling you. Is it effecting your operations?<<<<<<<<<<<
So you discount the XTB-IIR but the CM15A would receive an RF signal (remember it has an antenna and thats what it is for). Then any signal activity emanating from the CM15A to the power line would be repeated by the XTB-IIR and seen and displayed by the XTBM.
So then the activity monitor message "Receive RF M MTCDDVD" must be solely software generated by AHP and/or 1 of 2 plugins either Smart Macros or ANT.
So you don't think its a bother to you, but how about thousands of novices trying to understand or troubleshoot AHP and the software developers ignoring for months or longer with everyone to witness this obvious glitch in their programming skills.
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Pondo,
Try not to be so hard on the X10 programmers. A couple of years ago the company got rid of their programmers (or they left, I forget). Just recently we got some new guys that inherited the code sans documentation.
IMHO, they've done a bang up job piecing it all together, and they're looking for the source of the problem.
They're really trying, but the code is a mile long and had had too many hands on it, and no one told the new guys what was done, or when.
The code you are seeing is a result of a security sensor checking in. This is strictly an encrypted RF receive. The only way that action will make it to the powerline to affect your x10 system is if you had it set to trigger a macro, sending a plc command. Since the source has yet to be tracked, I doubt that you can even map THAT particular sensor to a macro.
If I had to guess, I'd say it's being generated by the CM15A itself. The CM15 has the ability to send an encrypted security command, so that it can emulate a security remote to disarm an X10 alarm system, but I don't think the coding on this has ever been perfected.
For now, it's a glitch that we all live with, but just mentally ignore it. It doesn't hurt anything.
It's kinda like all the radio signals being received where you live. They're all there, but you're not tuned into all of them at any one time, and they're not affecting your radio, or cell phone or garage door opener or wi-fi. Infact, without the proper receiver, you'd never know they were there.
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I doubt that message would ever be transmitted on the power lines. It is a security type that normally is never sent on the power lines.
So the XTB-IIR or any other power line receiver should never see it.
We only volunteer here so we can't speak for X10 in any official way.
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well thanks guys. Knightrider, and Brian H. I had guessed that AHP is code with its archives and tracks lost, because when something is fixed sometimes others popup.
I know you guys are volunteers and you don't even have to respond to my questions, but I was hoping you and a few others had some direct influence, where I have none-ziltch- on the present software developers or correctors, but I don't want their jobs either.
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It maybe something in 3.315. Everything from 3.310 on seems to have boatloads of problems Try backing up your .ahx files and uninstalling 3.315. Once that is done, reinstall 3.310 and the plug-ins and see what happens.
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It maybe something in 3.315. Everything from 3.310 on seems to have boatloads of problems Try backing up your .ahx files and uninstalling 3.315. Once that is done, reinstall 3.310 and the plug-ins and see what happens.
Dan -
Remember, you said the same thing about 3.228, until you had to do a complete uninstall and reinstall and found that newer version worked fine on your system.
Every installation is going to be different, and there is no guarantee that 3.310 will have fewer problems for one user than for another.
You never identified the problems you had with 3.315, either.
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The major problem was when AHP 3.315 was opened, it asked immediately for a download to the CM15A. If you didn't and closed AHP, then reopened AHP it asked again. I don't need that irritation, 3.310 works the way I want AHP to work. BTW as you may know, I have NO plug-ins, don't need any.
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The major problem was when AHP 3.315 was opened, it asked immediately for a download to the CM15A. If you didn't and closed AHP, then reopened AHP it asked again. I don't need that irritation, 3.310 works the way I want AHP to work. BTW as you may know, I have NO plug-ins, don't need any.
There is a workaround for that. When you exit AHP, and get the prompt to download, click "no" (as in, "No, I don't want to exit without downloading - AHP still exits). you won't see the prompt again until you make changes.
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I do not wish to hijack the thread but I have a question about the 3.310 vs. later loads.
First, can you tell me where the active bug list is located?
Second, did anyone have an issue going past 3.310 in which the NightWatch Black & White Camera would suddenly start flickering in and out on the monitor screen of AHP? That's what happened to me when I upgraded. I was fine before the upgrade. Many tries later I settled at v3.295 of everything (AHP & Plug-ins) which works stable for me but I may try 3.310 at your recommendation. The video flicker was really bad and intermittent with the latest version and the camera seemed to stop working whenever macros would run. I had to click the 'Go Live' button to get it to update in the monitor again after macros ran. Anyway, just wondering if that is one of the known bugs.
I may try v3.310 if you think I won't have that problem again. Took a long time to recover my system after going to the latest version.
Glad to hear there are new programmers working at X10 - everything you guys do to improve the software is really REALLY appreciated!
Thank you!
Jerry
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I do not wish to hijack the thread but I have a question about the 3.310 vs. later loads.
First, can you tell me where the active bug list is located?
Here: http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=22373.0
Second, did anyone have an issue going past 3.310 in which the NightWatch Black & White Camera would suddenly start flickering in and out on the monitor screen of AHP? That's what happened to me when I upgraded. I was fine before the upgrade. Many tries later I settled at v3.295 of everything (AHP & Plug-ins) which works stable for me but I may try 3.310 at your recommendation. The video flicker was really bad and intermittent with the latest version and the camera seemed to stop working whenever macros would run. I had to click the 'Go Live' button to get it to update in the monitor again after macros ran. Anyway, just wondering if that is one of the known bugs.
I may try v3.310 if you think I won't have that problem again. Took a long time to recover my system after going to the latest version.
3.310 was released on 3/25/2011. The latest version is 3.316, which was released on 7/1/2011.
3.316 was supposed to have corrected the video flicker issue.
I suggest trying 3.316, and see if that works better for you.