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X10 WIFI => X10 WIFI App problems or bugs => Topic started by: Tuicemen on September 18, 2018, 05:16:39 PM

Title: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on September 18, 2018, 05:16:39 PM
The app has the settting for  use or not to use DST so you don't have to sync with your phone when a time change occurs
The developer couldn't figure out how to handle areas that didn't have DST so this check box to disable auto changing was suggested.
Title: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 18, 2018, 07:36:54 PM
So, all my exiting setting have the "non-DST" enabled by default.  That seems wrong.

When I disable the setting,a den attempt to save, I get an error.  And the beat goes on...
Title: New DST problem
Post by: Knightrider on September 18, 2018, 07:38:03 PM
Android or Iproduct?
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 18, 2018, 07:41:03 PM
Android.  .26 firmware. Latest app from google play.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Knightrider on September 18, 2018, 07:41:37 PM
I moved this from the revision history thread and started a new one. Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Knightrider on September 18, 2018, 07:42:29 PM
Deedee, can you post a screenshot? I'm not seeing the setting.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 18, 2018, 07:57:12 PM
Attached.  Whatís the trick to resize the image?
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 18, 2018, 08:00:43 PM
Error
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on September 18, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
So, all my exiting setting have the "non-DST" enabled by default.  That seems wrong.

When I disable the setting,a den attempt to save, I get an error.  And the beat goes on...

the non DST setting being disabled by default would make sense as there are more areas that use it then not. the non DST is disabled by default in Android for me.

have you tried deleting the app in your phone then reinstall and connect to an existing Hub?

I've had to do this the last two updates to get things working B:(
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 18, 2018, 08:06:54 PM
I will try a reinstall.

Note that the option is OFF when adding a new device, but defaults to ON with existing timers.  When I turn it off, I get the error trying to save.

Update:  same error.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on September 18, 2018, 08:11:34 PM
ya ,sounds like issues I had last update till I reinstalled.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 18, 2018, 08:16:55 PM
Deleted app
Reinstalled app
Reset to factory settings
Connected to existing hub
Synced data from hub
Chose device with dusk timer
Disabled "non-dst" setting
Attempted save
Error
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on September 18, 2018, 08:19:44 PM
is this IOS  or Android?
is your firmware 0.0.26? r- run the firmware check for update.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 18, 2018, 08:20:47 PM
Android app v2.0.10
Firmware 0.0.26
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on September 18, 2018, 08:26:21 PM
Looks like the hub data is corrupt if this works for adding a new device.
The last update I had to factory reset the HUB in order not to get the error pop up.
Updates should not be this difficult! >*<

Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 18, 2018, 08:27:43 PM
Give me a backup option, and Iíll reset the hub! B:(
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 18, 2018, 08:31:34 PM
I tried to add a new device.  The non-dst defaults to off.  However, I get the same "the APP failed to add the device" error.

So, it fails to save on both new and existing timers.

Again, Iím doing this on android, using app 2.0.10 and 0.0.26 firmware.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Dave Mc on September 19, 2018, 03:24:26 AM
I get the same error message on my phone running android 5.1 but not on my tablet running android 6.0.1

I have been getting the error message on my phone for the last few days trying to figure out why the dusk/dawn +/- 90 was not working.  I deleted then re-installed the app but still get the message.  I did not want to do a factory reset of the wm100 and after reading the posts here will just make any changes with my tablet. 
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 19, 2018, 06:51:07 PM
My lights turned on early - in fact, about an hour early. So, the WM100 thinks Iím in a non-DST area. I had to go in and add 60m to all my dusk timers.  Lovely.  Silly me for upgrading.

Update: before the WM100, I was using my "low-tech" PR511 flood to turn on my lights at "real" dusk.  Quite reliable, unless it gets super dark in the middle of the day due to a storm. That rarely happens.  So, Iíve deleted my WM dusk timers, and Iím back to the PR511...for now. Forever?
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: normd on September 19, 2018, 09:12:04 PM
My v1.2 iOS app does not have this setting and uses standard time instead of DST or my phone time. Bizarre.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 19, 2018, 09:18:44 PM
Did you upgrade the firmware?  I think thatís where the problem is.  Only the android app has been updated, but both my iOS and android apps report the new firmware. I canít change DST setting on android app because there is a bug, and I canít change it on iOS because the app hasnít been updated!
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: VinRin57 on September 20, 2018, 08:05:29 AM
Seems I'm not the only one? Updated hub firmware and android app (iOS n/a yet??).

Here in central NJ:

Lights went on at 6pm (0 offset).  Sunset 6:58/ Dusk 7:25.
Lights went off at 5:26am (-15min).  Dawn 6:16/Sunrise 6:43.

Firmware update did request time synch.

Thoughts on this? Thank you all!!!

Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on September 20, 2018, 08:15:35 AM
I have an Android but I did see simular issues prior to deleting the app from the phone then reinstalling.
The app didn't auto update for me thought Google play store stated it had. ::) :'
Even though I had the newest firmware the app wasn't. This prevented the new options from displaying which makes sence.
 >!
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: VinRin57 on September 20, 2018, 08:20:22 AM
Ok, just noticed something that may have/probly is at the root.  Android update had me at non-dst and -19 minute offset for each setting.  Let me watch this over a few days! Thanks!
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 20, 2018, 08:53:02 AM
Ok, just noticed something that may have/probly is at the root.  Android update had me at non-dst and -19 minute offset for each setting.  Let me watch this over a few days! Thanks!

Same with me.  However, I canít deselect the DST option and save. I assume that your save worked. What version of android are you running? Tnx.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: VinRin57 on September 20, 2018, 08:22:47 PM
Samsung Tab A- running 7.1.1.  X10 App is 2.0.10.  Hub is at 26.. can't check, server down!
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: normd on September 29, 2018, 08:33:59 AM
DST was working fine for two days without any offset. Last night it turned on the lights two hours earlier!  I have not touched anything.  Now two days in a row. Sunset is about 6:30. It worked for two  nights. Then it turned on the same lights at 4:30 twice now. Anyone else having problems? 
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on September 30, 2018, 05:49:19 PM
DST was working fine for two days without any offset. Last night it turned on the lights two hours earlier!  I have not touched anything.  Now two days in a row. Sunset is about 6:30. It worked for two  nights. Then it turned on the same lights at 4:30 twice now. Anyone else having problems?

Mine is working fine. I have the setting off.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: normd on September 30, 2018, 08:07:53 PM
Things are now working on time once I reset the time on the WM100 with my iPhone. I'm not sure why the time was offset by two hours on the WM100. We may have had a power failure.  Can't this thing store the time?  It sure would be nice to se what time the WM100 has in one of the windows.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on October 01, 2018, 07:08:52 AM
Things are now working on time once I reset the time on the WM100 with my iPhone. I'm not sure why the time was offset by two hours on the WM100. We may have had a power failure.  Can't this thing store the time?  It sure would be nice to se what time the WM100 has in one of the windows.

I was also surprised that the unit does not report its time.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Noam on October 03, 2018, 11:21:43 AM
... We may have had a power failure.  Can't this thing store the time?

Nope. It has a real-time clock, but it isn't backed-up by battery. So when you unplug the unit (or you have a power failure), the clock resets. Not the smartest design (in my opinion) for a device that's supposed to run timers and such.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on October 03, 2018, 12:30:29 PM
I would have expected it to do an automatic re-sync with a device.  If it doesnít report the time, one has no way of knowing if a user-initiated sync is required. Brilliant.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on October 03, 2018, 01:11:23 PM
I would have expected it to do an automatic re-sync with a device.  If it doesnít report the time, one has no way of knowing if a user-initiated sync is required. Brilliant.
It is suppose to do this (an automatic re-sync with a device) without notification however with the latest update that may have been broken B:( ::) :'
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: ceedee on October 03, 2018, 03:11:58 PM
I would have expected it to do an automatic re-sync with a device.  If it doesnít report the time, one has no way of knowing if a user-initiated sync is required. Brilliant.
It is suppose to do this (an automatic re-sync with a device) without notification however with the latest update that may have been broken B:( ::) :'

How do we know if itís working or broken?   ;)
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on October 03, 2018, 03:18:18 PM
If it is broken youll get a notice to sync your time when the hub is off. If it is working youll get no notification.However I agree the app should display the Hubs current time on initially opening the app.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Noam on October 03, 2018, 04:12:51 PM
I would have expected it to do an automatic re-sync with a device.  If it doesnít report the time, one has no way of knowing if a user-initiated sync is required. Brilliant.
That still requires the app to be opened. So if you don't have the app open when power comes back on, you're out of luck. And if you're in another timezone (on vacation, for example), then a time sync would reset it to your *local* time, not the local time of the unit. Also a problem. Even without a clock battery, I would think the unit should be able to reach out to the Internet when it powers up, and pull the correct time for it's set location. But they didn't write the software that way. And they probably never will, unfortunately.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on October 03, 2018, 04:29:26 PM
Authinx continues to try and get the developer to add code to sync time with the internet. However they keep being told the hardware wont allow that which I personaly think is B.S.
Authinx admits the lack of battery backup for the clock was an over sight. when I enquired about the clock maintaining time the factory told them that wouldnt be an issue.
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: dave w on October 03, 2018, 05:45:48 PM
when I enquired about the clock maintaining time the factory told them that wouldnt be an issue.
They probably meant it would not be an issue for them.  rofl
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: Tuicemen on October 03, 2018, 06:18:07 PM
 rofl I did press the issue but not hard enough :-[
They kept saying the apps would look after it. >*<
Title: Re: New DST problems
Post by: normd on October 03, 2018, 09:51:46 PM
How hard is to store the offset from GMT and reset it to that after a power failure?  I donít want it reset to any device because I might be in a different time zone than the controller. It doesnít matter in China where there is only one time zone for the whole country. Maybe time to return my unit.