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Title: Install AHP new computer
Post by: anthony on June 07, 2005, 04:30:35 PM
I recently had a harddrive failure and lost
everything, including AHP.  My cm15a has the
program in it but my lights are turning on
and it's still light out.

I need some help on how to go about
reloading the software since it's all
electronic now.

anthony
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: X10 Pro on June 07, 2005, 04:40:08 PM
If you know your order number and original
order e-mail address, you can request that
your registration code and a new download
link be sent to you using our online form:

http://www.x10.com/register/download.htm

If you don't know that information you can
call technical support to look it up, and
they can also send you the software.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer - CM19A - What are we doing now...
Post by: snarksdad on December 18, 2013, 03:25:01 PM
If you know your order number and original
order e-mail address, you can request that
your registration code and a new download
link be sent to you using our online form:
 
http://www.x10.com/register/download.htm
 
If you don't know that information you can
call technical support to look it up, and
they can also send you the software.
As most of us know now this no longer works. Here is what I got back from the "new" X10 support:

Reference number: LTK1221403198309X Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us.
Subject: Let's Improve X10

Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting us.

I am sorry, it appears as if the manufacturer and software servers are having issues. We have contacted them and they are aware of the issue, but we do not have any timeframe of when they will be resolved. We are doing what we can to work with them to get these servers back up and in place, but in the meantime have removed all of our listings regarding X10 software.

Unfortunately, we have no other information for you at this time. Once the servers are fixed and the software is properly working and activating we will relist our software on our website.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Mike K.

 

---------------Original Message---------------
From:    rlf01 < >

Subject:
   Let's Improve X10
     

 
> Reactivation of the ActiveHome Software - Activehome servers are currently offline. X10 WTI had this software hosted on dedicated servers. During X10 WTI's Bankruptcy, these servers were shut down and alot of the data was lost. We are working with networking and database professionals to try to gather this broken data and get ActiveHome back online. We are doing all we can to re-enable this software for past and future X10 customers.
What is the status of this? I lost the computer disk that housed my ActiveHome (On July 26th BTW) and cannot even set the time on the controller. I am unwilling to purchase any new X10 devices until that has been resolved.

Regards,

So what can we do to get access to a CM19A?

Thanks,
Snarksdad
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Tuicemen on December 18, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
When the old X10 went belly up many users scrambled to find ways to be able to reinstall.
Although a reinstall is a little easier to get AHP some of the techniques are the same
Both methods are located on my site and users should install using the directions in the corresponding threads
Directions (http://tuicemen.com/forum/index.php?board=67.0)
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Tucson on December 19, 2013, 03:07:33 AM
Has any one tried "active home vista". It is Freeware

This is a small out take from the website.

"Active Home Vista is the ´control center´ of your home automation system. You can control all your devices, program the X10 interface and receive updates from the X10 interface to see what´s going on X10-wise.
Dusk & dawn timers are supported. The limited EEPROM of the interface is used in an efficient way to store as many timers & macros as possible. Also DST support is present. For a number of X10 devices a program wizard is available."
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: HA Dave on December 19, 2013, 10:09:06 PM
Has any one tried "active home vista". It is Freeware

This is a small out take from the website....... you can control all your devices, program the X10 interface and receive updates from the X10 interface to see what´s going on X10-wise.

I found the DL at:  http://www.freewarefiles.com/Active-Home-Vista_program_44203.html

In the description it also says:
•CM10A / IBM Home director 16 (beta, downloading macros / timers is not supported)
•CM11A (CM12)
•CM15A (downloading macros / timers is not supported)
•CM17A
•CM19A (select CM15A as interface)

Nothing against the software... it looks interesting. However it doesn't allow downloading of macros to the CM15A. THANKFULLY... X10 is back... and soon getting the proper AHP with download capabilities won't be an issue.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: timlight10 on December 22, 2013, 02:49:44 PM
Has any one tried "active home vista".

Tucson,

Yes I do use Active Home Vista and I quite like it. I have the Firecracker (CM17A) interface and the limitations I am running into are due to the Firecracker, not the software. I really like the software. The developers and community there have been helpful in resolving any issues I have raised.

Your experience may vary depending on your interface, as HA Dave pointed out.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: HA Dave on December 22, 2013, 07:29:02 PM
Yes I do use Active Home Vista and I quite like it. I have the Firecracker (CM17A) interface and the limitations I am running into are due to the Firecracker, not the software........ Your experience may vary depending on your interface, as HA Dave pointed out.

I wanted to run the Melloware iPhone X10 control app... the server, java, program [loaded on the HA PC] the app uses to talk with my HA PC... seemed to slow my other processes too much. Without being able to setup a new X10/AHP PC... because X10 had closed... I was stuck.

So... I dug a CM19 [firecracker] out of my parts tub and loaded the app on what is little more than a netbook. The app triggers the firecracker that is "heard" by my HA PC with is connected to a CM15A. OK... it's a bit of a Rube Goldberg machine. But this is temporary only till the new X10 servers and interfaces are online.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Tucson on December 25, 2013, 04:34:49 PM
Since APH software can only used the APH hardware. Why not give it out for free and save the trouble of getting the server working -:). It would decrease support and make the users happy and less likely to leave.

I'm starting to look at other controllers and I have been using X10 for over 20 years. I just pulled the mini controllers out and it is a pain to set up and does not track daytime.

I'm looking at the INSTEON Hub but it does not have offsets from sunrise/sunset, a deal breaker for me.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: HA Dave on December 26, 2013, 02:56:17 AM
Since APH software can only used the APH hardware. Why not give it out for free and save the trouble of getting the server working -:). It would decrease support and make the users happy and less likely to leave.

The software was originally written to be "unlocked" and well as "downloaded" from a server.

I understand the reason for selling software. Everybody has to eat! Those code-writers don't show up and produce lines of code for free. And... if you own a software product and don't use protective measures.... others will just download it and re-sell it. Potentially stealing the profits.

But a LOT has changed since the introduction of Home Automation software products. I doubt any number of CM15A interfaces were sold without AHP software. And I'd guess very few paid for the smart-macro plugin ether. There was an SDK made public for anyone who wanted to develop AHP software (in addition to the suite of AHP plugin's). And several people created software based on the SDK. But without the basic AHP software product... a user cannot upload settings/timers/macros to the interfaces memory.

All-in-all.... I think X10 did it right. Except they went broke. Maybe... if they would have trusted "other vendors" to sell locked software from the vendors own servers for a percentage of the sales. Then.... it would not have all collapsed like a house of cards... when X10 closed their doors. OR.... provide the "basic" software package as a download like the European AHP.

But in the end.... it's all working out.... and progressing forward. Hind-sight is always 20/20. I am really looking forward to the new Wi-Fi enable interface. And.... that will also likely have some sort of server-forwarding service. Hopefully that will be embedded in the interface (to make it simple/easy).... as well as changeable to make it future-proof.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: IPS on December 26, 2013, 10:54:13 AM
Am glad be be able to log on to this forum again.
I have been using X10 AHP for many years now and luckily my system is still working except the email part.
This might not be the right place to ask the question but then am not sure if there is any other place. I'll be greatful if some one can direct me to the right place.
All my security and x10. Camera emails are not working.

Wish you all a happy, healthy new Year.

IPS >!
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Brian H on December 26, 2013, 10:58:38 AM
If the emails where through the old X10WTI Servers. They are all out of service. Though the new owners are trying to get the servers back online.
I have seen nothing on the email servers being included. I have seen the software and registration servers mentioned as being addressed.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Tuicemen on December 26, 2013, 11:57:56 AM
The AHP severs never worked well for me :(
Even with the email set to use SMTP as it would always revert to using there servers  B:(
The new owners have mentioned they wish to get all aspects of the AHP software back up. I would take that to mean the email server as well.
Hopefully that will work better.
You might wish to use another method for sending emails in the mean time.
Maybe send a windows command to a third party software like PC Companion.
 >!
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: RHBernard on February 10, 2014, 07:22:23 PM
The original "Install AHP new computer" post is mow 7 years old (June 7 2005).  So I am going to refresh it with my own experience.

For years I had an old PC running MSDOS and some software that sends out X-10 signals from a COM: port to a PowerLinc adapter, to control Appliance modules that power various systems.

In early 2013 I decided to upgrade, and reacquainted myself with my two large file boxes of X-10 modules and controllers.  I logged into X-10.com to see what was new.  I had a leftover Dell D500 laptop to apply to the problem, and settled on ActiveHomePro for the control software.  I ordered it in late Jan 2013 and waited.  After several weeks I called and was told the CM15A device was back ordered, so i waited some more. 

Finally it arrived and I installed the software, carefully retaining the software modules for installation (in case I needed to reinstall).  This was my first mistake because it was much later (November 2013 that I discovered that X-10 had this EVER SO CLEVER installer that wasn't really the installer but an anti-software-piracy scheme that only streams the actual installer code to the customer's computer and doesn't store that code locally.  I have 50 years of software development under my belt so I understand the need to discourage piracy.

It may have been EVER SO CLEVER for keeping customers from giving out the AHP to others, but not for assuring that X-10 would be around if legitimate customers had hardware or other technical problems and needed to reinstall.   From the looks of the number of customers who are asking how to do that it there are quite a few of us.

I had to weather another problem.  The AHP and the attache CM15A would not operate any X-10 modules, and I had several phone conversations with X-19 support before they agreed with me if the other manual X-10 controllers could operate the same switch modules and the CM15A couldn't, they would replace it.  The replacement worked and I installed the necessary files in AGP to allow me to render several mechanical light and appliance timers obsolete.

My particular reason for needing to reinstall is that a very nice 160GB Western Digital Scorpio Blue hard drive that I installed in that Dell D500 gave out sometime after X-10.com company when out of business.  I didn't notice that until November 2013, at which point i replaced the D500 with another computer and attempted to do the AHP reinstall which, of course, failed.  And then the holidays came around and then a scheduled Winter vacation.

Now I'm back and attempted to email X-10.com support and got Server not found,  Then I googled "What happened to x-10.com" and found the saga of the bankruptcy.  Then I got out the D500 and tried to recover files from the dead WD drive.  It turns out its FUBAR.  Not even Steve Gibson's Spinrite6 my old standby disk rejuvenator could do anything with it, reporting
"You should NOT PROCEED to use SpinRite on this drive until you have verified and corrected the disparity between this drive and the BIOS's or BIOS extension's understanding of the drive size."

A simple sector copy found numerous sequences of unreadable sectors, so I resorted to mounting the WD drive on a USB adapter and locating and copying the various AHP code and other drives over to the newer and working Windows computer. My thinking is that if the Program files for AHP and the various data files are intact I should be able to reconstruct a working version.

But it doesn't work, and before I put too much more time in this line of thinking, I now want to rule out the possibility that the anti-piracy scheme of AHP also requires that the X-10 server has to be online to even run the AHP software. If anyone knows the answer to that possibility I would like to hear it.

If a working Windows PC with lawfully installed AHP software truly has all the necessary software and data modules in their proper places, I would to hear from someone who has a working Windows computer with AHP installed and can post in this thread an exhaustive list of those software and data modules and their  file paths.  That would allow me to inventory the modules that I have and determine what's missing, if any.

I think that such an exhaustive list of what constitutes a complete AHP would be a valuable reference for all AHP owners, not only those whose systems are in distress.

In the meantime I will post my own inventory of files I have from the dead D500 drive.

Thanks,
Bob




Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Brian H on February 11, 2014, 06:02:45 AM
Bob;
There are some good threads on AHP installs. On Tuicemen's forums. Along with the information I expect to be added here.
http://tuicemen.com/forum/index.php?board=67.0

Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Tuicemen on February 11, 2014, 10:36:01 AM
As Brian posted there are threads on my forum for this.
Copying files only will not get you a working AHP as registry entries need to be added.
Installing an European version from Marmitec (http://www.marmitek.com/en/product/09793) will create those entries. You'll then need to over write the install with your back up files to get a North American version.
This will give you a working North American version however it won't be registered and you'll be nagged at each start up.
Authinx has stated they tend to make AHP freely downloadable like the European version once they get the servers back online.



Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: RHBernard on February 11, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
As Brian posted there are threads on my forum for this.  
Copying files only will not get you a working AHP as registry entries need to be added.
Installing an European version from Marmitec (http://www.marmitek.com/en/product/09793) will create those entries. You'll then need to over write the install with your back up files to get a North American version.
This will give you a working North American version however it won't be registered and you'll be nagged at each start up.
Authinx has stated they tend to make AHP freely downloadable like the European version once they get the servers back online.

1.  Forgive me for asking this, but are you positive that the nonstandard AHP install created registry entries?  Not all Windows apps create them or need them to launch.
If there are such, I am not able to get into the Registry of my damaged WinXP Pro SP3 to see what entries the AHP install created.  
Do you have a working US AHP?  If so, Can you and would you, or another AHP user post the relevant registry entries or direct me to another AHP user with Regedit skill with an exhaustive list of AHP files and their associated register entries, with whom I could communicate.

2.  I am very interested in being a member of your site and participating in AHP discussions.  I have been on your forum, Mr. Tuiceman, the forum with the black screen (which incidentally is very hard to read even on a Mac with Retina display) and I applied for an account (as RHBernard and email xxxxxx@xxxxxx) but have not received any of the activation emails, which I have asked for several times.  Is it possible for you to look into that?

3.  I have been to the Marmitec site but finding it hard to locate the download specifics.

4.  Can you elaborate on "You'll then need to over write the install with your back up files to get a North American version."  Which files and in what way do they differ from the European versions?  Is this detailed on the Marmitec site or elsewhere.

5.  The X-10 oriented forums including yours, like all discussion groups, contain valuable pieces of relevant information related to their topics,  But to distill all those juicy tidbits of information into a recipe for reconstructing a damaged application.  My goal, is to get my AHP running again and as a programmer I like to start with a list of needed pieces and a flow chart to follow.  
6.  I have some of the needed pieces, but am not sure the list is exhaustive.  If my install was running I would create and publish on this forum or yours the exhaustive list of files and their paths, and the associated registry entries needed to simulate an AHP install.  
What I need to create that are some collaborators with the pieces I am missing.  Will they please stand up and identify themselves.
Of course, perhaps Authinx will recover and publish this soon and that won't be necessary.

edited by tuicemen to remove email address
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Tuicemen on February 11, 2014, 03:16:46 PM
 RHBernard
I've auto registered you on my forum, as well I sent you a email regarding this.
Sometimes auto notifications get sent to ones spam box.
The list of files needed to overwrite the marmitec version is on my site.
Topic: AHP reinstalls (http://tuicemen.com/forum/index.php?topic=607.0)
Files for a new install on a new PC is similar:
Topic: New AHP install on new PC or new Hard drive (http://tuicemen.com/forum/index.php?topic=641.0)

It should be noted the European version will work for the North American cm15a.
The issue is time zones and module info.
The European version also come with Smartmacros and OnAlert plug-ins both of which are free.
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Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: RHBernard on February 12, 2014, 10:11:24 AM
Bob;
There are some good threads on AHP installs. On Tuicemen's forums. Along with the information I expect to be added here.
http://tuicemen.com/forum/index.php?board=67.0


Brian,
There is one thing I am confused about.  Did all AHP US users go down when the server went down, or only those who had machine failures.  I know now that the AHP installer could only work with the server up, but did the running app need the server all all the time or when launching?  The latter would be a terrible matter.
I'm in the machine failure category, with a failed HD.  I have a lot of files back but there are three things I don't know:
1.  Do I have ALL the files?  So I need someone with a running AHP to give me a list of ALL the AHP files so I can know what I need.
2.  Does the AHP install Windows Registry entries.  If it does then that is another thing I need.  I have not been able to get into my XP registry, and need someone with Registry skills to send me those.  I can advise that person how to do that if needed.  Registry entries for a particular app are not hard to locate and copy to a file.
3.  Do you have a running US AHP and if so, could you help me with the above.  I'm preparing a list of everything I saved and could send it to you, so you could tell me what's missing.
Thanks,
Bob_Bernard@alum.wpi.edu
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Brian H on February 12, 2014, 10:40:55 AM
No when the X10 Servers went off line. Anyone using the US AHP and some of the plug ins that did not use the X10 Servers for accessing AHP remotely. Where OK. Other plug ins no longer work.

The AHP installation file {about 256K} went to the X10 Server to download the full program and then use the X10 Registration Server to verify you where a legitimate owner of AHP.
New computer installations or reinstalling to fix a damaged AHP. Don't work.

I am not the best person to do software stuff and probably can't give you much more information.
I do have AHP on my XP computer just to help others with their AHP questions.
My CM15A is retired and I am now a mix of X10 and Insteon automation.

There are some very good software gurus here and I would expect all of your questions can be answered.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: JeffVolp on February 12, 2014, 11:05:10 AM

I think the best approach until servers are running again is for us to have one locked post that includes a link to the Marmitek download and also provides links to download the individual files that must be overwritten once the Marmitek version is installed.

I think I have an ancient AHP installation on a retired hard drive, but I don't currently have a working US version of AHP on this computer.  I did try the Marmitek installation, which worked except for the timezone issue.

Jeff
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Brian H on February 12, 2014, 02:05:58 PM
I have a working US AHP.
Though I am not sure I can find all the files installed.
Seem they are scattered around in different folders.
I also used REGEDIT and found all kinds of X10 refferences.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: RHBernard on February 13, 2014, 09:35:59 PM
This is a followup to my post several days ago where I described in too many words my predicament.

I want to recreate my US version of AHP that was rendered inoperable when my hard drive failed and do so without needing the Marmitek version.

With a complete set of program and date files and any associated registry entries I should be able to reconstruct a running system, and post a complete procedure for helping others in the same situation.

I installed my AHP in late February, 2013.  When I discovered in November 2013 that my drive had failed the X-10.com company had already folded and a new reinstall was impossible.

I have been able to recover many of the AHP files from the damaged drive, and have pasted a list of these at the end of this message. 

I need someone who has an exhaustive list of the AHP files to read my list and tell me if my list is complete.  If it is not, perhaps that person can at least tell me the names of the missing files, and hopefully provide these files to me.

In addition I also need to know whether the AHP install created any Windows (XP Pro) registry entries.

I was able to run the XP Repair Console on the damaged drive but it could not find a complete enough Windows to open for repair.  So the registry is lost to me also.

Can that person tell me if AHP created any regedit entries and if so, can you provide these

With a complete set of program and date files and any associated registry entries I should be able to reconstruct a running system, and post a complete procedure for helping others in the same situation to recreate theirs.

The following is the list of AHP files from my damaged drive, listed below the folder paths where I found them.

-----------------------
In C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Active Home Professional
   ahpeeprom_r.bin
   ahpeeprom_r.txt
   ahpeeprom_w.bin
   ahpeeprom_w.txt


In C:\Administrator\Administrator's Documents\Desktop\ActiveHomePro
      ActiveHome Registration Code.txt
      setup0.122959545421512.exe
      setup0.159980824058042.exe
      setup0.188407620721595.exe
      setup0.376007365834997.exe
      setup0.524134375228645.exe
      setup0.896515529443608.exe

In C:\Program Files\ActiveHome Pro
       ActiveHm.exe
       ActiveHome Pro.chm
       AHP.dll
       ahp_config.xml
       ahp_plugin.xml
       ahp_security.chm
       ahp_smartmacros.chm
       ahp_user.xml
       ant.dll
       avcodes.x10
       AVX.dll
       emailprp.xml
       HOLIDAY.XML
       ICities.xml
       INSTALL.LOG
       MyHome.ahx
       MyHouse.cml
       Samples.ahx
       Video Samples.ahx
       X10(shortcut)
       x10Logo.gif
       xlinks.xml

In C:\
       ActiveHomrAtStartup.DOC (A screenshot taken during AHP installation)
       activehomepro.pdf       (The ActiveHomePro Users Manual)

I hope someone can help me.

Thanks,
Bob

Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: hawk1 on February 14, 2014, 07:44:51 AM
Maybe this will help.  http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/dependency_walker.html

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Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Brian H on February 14, 2014, 07:52:10 AM
I found one thing. When I connect a CM15A to a USB Port.
The file x10ufx2.sys loads.

I found a few of the files on my C: drive. I will do some further looking and try to see which one is in use. As there where a few different versions.

Device Manager shows c:\windows\system32\drivers\x10ufx2.sys. When the CM15A is connected.

I also used USBDeview.
It shows an  x10ufx2.sys entry for each USB Port I have used with the CM15A Interface. Over the years.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Brian H on February 14, 2014, 10:59:39 AM
I found an Installation Log for when I installed AHP. I don't believe it was from the AHP SDK Installation and it looks like it was a accumulation of a few installs.
Not sure if it will be of any help.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: RHBernard on February 18, 2014, 10:11:47 AM
I found an Installation Log for when I installed AHP. I don't believe it was from the AHP SDK Installation and it looks like it was a accumulation of a few installs.
Not sure if it will be of any help.


That certainly is interesting.  I didn't know that AHP install left behind a log.  Can you tell me the path where you found that file?  I could use that to see if a similar file was left on my damaged drive.
Bob_Bernard@alum.wpi.edu
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Brian H on February 18, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
I found that log in: C:\Program Files\Common Files\X10\Common\Common
I found some X10 drivers for things like the VA11A in: C\Program Files\Common Files\X10\DriverInstall

I also found another log in: C:\Program Files\X10 Hardware.
Some of these may have been from the AHP SDK Install or other X10 Software. Like the Firecracker program.
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: JeffVolp on February 18, 2014, 03:54:38 PM
I may be dealing with this issue myself soon as I'm in the process of clean XP installs on all my PCs.  The lab PC did have an old AHP installation, so I saved all files before wiping the system drive.

Jeff
Title: Re: Install AHP new computer
Post by: Tuicemen on February 18, 2014, 04:04:37 PM
I have created a conversion tool which will bring the marmitek AHP 3.316 to the  North American version 3.318
However I haven't been able to get around the registration issues so the nag screen pops up on each AHP start.
Currently this is only available to active members on my forum.
However with enough interest I'll open it up.