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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => ActiveHome Pro General => Topic started by: X10 Pro on March 20, 2006, 06:47:42 PM
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We have version 3.202 of ActiveHome Pro and MyHouse now available. Because off the significant changes in this version, we are releasing it initially here in the forums only. Once we establish that it's ready for everyone, we'll release it in an automatic update.
Download the new version here:
http://software.x10.com/pub/applications/activehome/ahp_updt_202.exe
To install the new client on a remote computer download this:
http://software.x10.com/pub/applications/activehome/myhouse_updt_202.exe
You should still be able to use the old client version just fine.
Changes in this version are:
- Changed "Troubleshooting" link in Help menu to point to new forum.
- Changed timestamp in video displays to use local time, not UTC.
- Fixed problem with saved video being cut off or too short.
- Fixed problem with events running from interface not being recorded in Activity Monitor (thanks, Noam).
- Fixed problem with Advanced Command address sequences not running correctly (thanks, Charles).
- Fixed readability of text in some macro command displays.
- Fixed Smart Macros Preferences: advanced, etc. and other options not being saved after program exit.
- MyHouse: Added code to detect server load and performance and select appropriate server.
- MyHouse: Changed parts of frame tranmission to improve performance and reliability.
- MyHouse: Improved reliability of video transmission.
- MyHouse: Fixed overlap of Upload/Download bars and time display in status bar.
- MyHouse: Added preference for send e-mail method in MyHouse.
Our next update to MyHouse should come very soon, and will take away the reliance on port 8001 being open, so users should be able to use it behind corporate firewalls, etc.
To revert to the previous version of AHP, use the following:
http://software.x10.com/pub/applications/activehome/ahp_updt_201.exe
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Just downoaded and installed it. Will monitor my system to see if this corrects the X10 Network Services lack of communication with AHP module status when AHP is not running, but the CM15A is properly running timers.
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[li]...Changed "Troubleshooting" link in Help menu to point to new forum....[/li]
Remote program is still linking to the old forums for me. (Main program is linking to the new forums.)
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In preferences I uncheck "Show Group Pane on Startup" but it's not saved, when I restart AHP it's checked again.
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In My AHP, since the update, the "Troubleshooting" link in Help menu to point to new forum properly. I checked it and it opened my default browser and opened the forums here, not the old ones.
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The troubleshooting link takes me here too.
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When I updated from 3.198 to 3.202, only AHP was registered, all other plugins were not, and none of the others worked. When I closed AHP and restarted, 3.198 came up with all plugins registered and functional. Gary t reported the same type of problem back on March 10, so I tried the suggestions from that post, and attempted to update to another version (3.201). Same results.
So, 3.198 seems to be working ok but I can't update without losing the registration on the other plugins. Is there a specific reason this happens, or is it caused by "unknown file corruption"?
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WinS there was a bug that corrupted files not sure if it was 3.197, 3.198 or 3.199 but it was in that area! not all users had this happen ::) ???. This might be the problem.
It took me days to find the problem on my system :o it was the configuration of one module in one room ::). it wouldn't let me delete it, modify or move it but I could move the other units to another room then I could delete the room with the problem module.I also had a rooms entire contents disappear only to get them back with a newer update.(discovered this by placing the ahx file back into AHP after a few updates!) ;)
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Just downoaded and installed it. Will monitor my system to see if this corrects the X10 Network Services lack of communication with AHP module status when AHP is not running, but the CM15A is properly running timers.
So far, module status is being correctly passed by X10 Network Service to AHP, as AHP was closed as timers ran. As each timer ran, I opened AHP and checked. Modules that were turned off by the timer were shown in AHP as OFF, which is correct. Timers that turn modules on when AHP is closed also appear as ON when AHP is opened.
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still cannot autosave stills for more than 2 minutes? ???
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philip eardley: What version of Windows are you using? What happens after two minutes? Does it just stop, or do you get errors?
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using windows XP service pack 2 the camera just stops saving autosnaps
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Windows XP SP2
AHP 3.202
iWitness
Smart Macros
Macro Trigger B5 ON- tripped by Motion Sensor:
Set Flag 5 - ON
Turn Lamp ON (Lamp Set to B5)
Select Camera 1
Go To Camera Preset 1
Start Recording Video
Wait for 10 Seconds
Stop Recording Video
Turn Lamp OFF
Clear Flag 5
End Macro
I hit B5 On with the Control Pad to initiate the Macro.
Activity Monitor:
Event Date/Time Action Data
0 03/21/2006 7:21:41 pm Receive RF B5 On
1 03/21/2006 7:21:41 pm Receive RF B5 On
2 03/21/2006 7:21:41 pm Receive RF B5 On
3 03/21/2006 7:21:42 pm Receive B5 (Left Side Sensor)
4 03/21/2006 7:21:42 pm Receive B On (Left Side Sensor)
5 03/21/2006 7:21:47 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
6 03/21/2006 7:21:48 pm Transmit B On (Left Side Sensor)
7 03/21/2006 7:21:48 pm Transmit RF C5 On
8 03/21/2006 7:21:49 pm Transmit C5 (Cam 1)
9 03/21/2006 7:21:50 pm Transmit C On (Cam 1)
10 03/21/2006 7:21:54 pm Transmit RF C CamGoPosition1
11 03/21/2006 7:21:55 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
12 03/21/2006 7:21:56 pm Transmit B On (Left Side Sensor)
13 03/21/2006 7:21:56 pm Transmit RF C5 On
14 03/21/2006 7:21:57 pm Transmit C5 (Cam 1)
15 03/21/2006 7:21:58 pm Transmit C On (Cam 1)
16 03/21/2006 7:22:02 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
17 03/21/2006 7:22:03 pm Transmit B Off
18 03/21/2006 7:22:03 pm Transmit RF C CamGoPosition1
19 03/21/2006 7:22:04 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
20 03/21/2006 7:22:05 pm Transmit B On (Left Side Sensor)
21 03/21/2006 7:22:09 pm Transmit RF C5 On
22 03/21/2006 7:22:10 pm Transmit C5 (Cam 1)
23 03/21/2006 7:22:11 pm Transmit C On (Cam 1)
24 03/21/2006 7:22:11 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
25 03/21/2006 7:22:12 pm Transmit B Off
26 03/21/2006 7:22:12 pm Transmit RF C CamGoPosition1
27 03/21/2006 7:22:17 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
28 03/21/2006 7:22:18 pm Transmit B Off
The 2 Video Recordings are a total of 1 second each elapse time.
There should have been 1 recording, for at least a total of 10 seconds
Instead, I have 2 recordings for 1 second each.
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Chris S: I'm seeing the problem here, and we'll fix it.
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I just installed update v3.202 a few results below:
Smart Macros Preferences:
Set advanced preferences & closed the AHP program; reopen everything saved (Sweet).
Saving Auto Stills:
Ran my patio cam macro from the software, (hit the blue macro button) changed the delay to 4 minutes, recorded 4 minutes of still no problem. Win XP pro SP2 (Sweet)
Trouble Shooting Link:
All links took me to the new forms, X10 Knowledge Base link took me to http://www.x10.com/kbase/products/p00001.html
Smart Macros Conditions:
I have had some problems with conditions and flags not being recognized, if time is between 6:00pm & 6:00am turn lights on, if between 6:00am & 6:00pm do not turn lights on, I have not tried these but hope to play with the Smart Macros some in the next day or two. If flags and conditions are fixed this would be a major plus.
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Bogie -
You can't have a condition like "if time is between 6:00pm and 6:00am. You would need to do it as two conditions, with an "OR" statement. "If time is before 6:00am" OR "time is after 6:00pm".
AHP looks at time in Midnight-to-Midnight blocks, so your conditions have to follow that logic.
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Just downoaded and installed it. Will monitor my system to see if this corrects the X10 Network Services lack of communication with AHP module status when AHP is not running, but the CM15A is properly running timers.
So far, module status is being correctly passed by X10 Network Service to AHP, as AHP was closed as timers ran. As each timer ran, I opened AHP and checked. Modules that were turned off by the timer were shown in AHP as OFF, which is correct. Timers that turn modules on when AHP is closed also appear as ON when AHP is opened.
Update as of 3/21/06: X10 Network Services is passing correct module status to all modules corectly, except for Lamp Modules A1 & A3. If either of these modules are on when a dusk timer to turn them on is run, the modules will be ON, but AHP shows them with Blue in the brightness slider instead of Green, which is 100% brightness. A lamp module on F2 shows 100%Green. It has been reported earlier (possibly on the old forums) that Blue means module is on, but % could not be determined.
Other than the two Lamp modules on A1 & A3 showing Blue, everything is showing status properly. Any Ideas?
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Thanks X10 Pro.
Here is the same Macro Setup for AutoStills:
Windows XP SP2
AHP 3.202
iWitness
Smart Macros
Macro Trigger B5 ON- tripped by Motion Sensor:
Set Flag 5 - ON
Turn Lamp ON (Lamp Set to B5)
Select Camera 1
Go To Camera Preset 1
Start Automatic Still Record every 5 Seconds
Wait for 25 Seconds
Stop Automatic Still Record
Turn Lamp OFF
Clear Flag 5
End Macro
I hit B5 On with the Control Pad to initiate the Macro.
Activity Monitor:
Event Date/Time Action Data
0 03/21/2006 10:22:57 pm Receive RF B5 On
1 03/21/2006 10:22:57 pm Receive B5 (Left Side Sensor)
2 03/21/2006 10:22:59 pm Receive B On (Left Side Sensor)
3 03/21/2006 10:23:03 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
4 03/21/2006 10:23:03 pm Transmit B On (Left Side Sensor)
5 03/21/2006 10:23:04 pm Macro B14 (FL LV Lights ON)
6 03/21/2006 10:23:04 pm Macro B Off
7 03/21/2006 10:23:04 pm Transmit RF C5 On
8 03/21/2006 10:23:05 pm Transmit C5 (Cam 1)
9 03/21/2006 10:23:05 pm Transmit C On (Cam 1)
10 03/21/2006 10:23:10 pm Transmit RF C CamGoPosition1
11 03/21/2006 10:23:11 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
12 03/21/2006 10:23:11 pm Transmit B On (Left Side Sensor)
13 03/21/2006 10:23:12 pm Transmit RF C5 On
14 03/21/2006 10:23:22 pm Transmit C5 (Cam 1)
15 03/21/2006 10:23:23 pm Transmit C On (Cam 1)
16 03/21/2006 10:23:23 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
17 03/21/2006 10:23:24 pm Transmit B On (Left Side Sensor)
18 03/21/2006 10:23:24 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
19 03/21/2006 10:23:25 pm Transmit B Off
20 03/21/2006 10:23:25 pm Transmit RF C CamGoPosition1
21 03/21/2006 10:23:26 pm Transmit RF C5 On
22 03/21/2006 10:23:35 pm Transmit C5 (Cam 1)
23 03/21/2006 10:23:35 pm Transmit C On (Cam 1)
24 03/21/2006 10:23:36 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
25 03/21/2006 10:23:36 pm Transmit B On (Left Side Sensor)
26 03/21/2006 10:23:37 pm Transmit RF C Composition1
27 03/21/2006 10:23:38 pm Transmit RF C5 On
28 03/21/2006 10:23:43 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
29 03/21/2006 10:23:43 pm Transmit B Off
30 03/21/2006 10:23:44 pm Transmit C5 (Cam 1)
31 03/21/2006 10:23:44 pm Transmit C On (Cam 1)
32 03/21/2006 10:23:45 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
33 03/21/2006 10:23:45 pm Transmit B On (Left Side Sensor)
34 03/21/2006 10:23:50 pm Transmit RF C Composition1
35 03/21/2006 10:23:50 pm Transmit RF C5 On
36 03/21/2006 10:23:51 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
37 03/21/2006 10:23:51 pm Transmit B Off
38 03/21/2006 10:23:52 pm Transmit C5 (Cam 1)
39 03/21/2006 10:23:52 pm Transmit C On (Cam 1)
40 03/21/2006 10:23:57 pm Transmit RF C CamGoPosition1
41 03/21/2006 10:23:58 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
42 03/21/2006 10:23:58 pm Transmit B Off
43 03/21/2006 10:24:03 pm Transmit B5 (Left Side Sensor)
44 03/21/2006 10:24:03 pm Transmit B Off
Auto Stills Created: - Under \Stills Folder
X10IMG10
032312500_0014_0000000000000000_Cam 1.jpg,1
032315344_0014_0000000000000000_Cam 1.jpg,1
032320371_0014_0000000000000000_Cam 1.jpg,1
032335833_0014_0000000000000000_Cam 1.jpg,1
032344656_0014_0000000000000000_Cam 1.jpg,1
032345337_0014_0000000000000000_Cam 1.jpg,1
032352597_0014_0000000000000000_Cam 1.jpg,1
032355381_0014_0000000000000000_Cam 1.jpg,1
032400378_0014_0000000000000000_Cam 1.jpg,1
Also, when I went to view the Stills using AHP,
the calendar date 3/22/06 was highlighted in green, even
though these stills were taken on 3/21/06.
When hitting the next button to scroll through the pictures,
I would get to the end of the Stills under the date "3/22/2006"
hitting the "Previous Image" button past the 1st Still,
would result in the following date.
01/01/1601
Stills taken 03/21/2006 with highlighted "Green" on 03/22/2006
(http://i1.tinypic.com/s0x1ee.jpg)
Traversing back to each Previous Image - If I go back one more than what exists.
(http://i1.tinypic.com/s0x0ee.jpg)
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Bogie -
You can't have a condition like "if time is between 6:00pm and 6:00am. You would need to do it as two conditions, with an "OR" statement. "If time is before 6:00am" OR "time is after 6:00pm".
AHP looks at time in Midnight-to-Midnight blocks, so your conditions have to follow that logic.
Shouldn't the conditions work with the Logic;
"if time is between 6:00pm and 6:00am." ??
If not, is this a bug, or intended ??
There is a condition that exists that allows for "Between Times" !
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Noam,
I will try the OR condition, the Macro is working now with a work around that Tuiceman gave me. I was just going to play with the time conditions, with the upgrade to see if it would work. The setup Tuiceman gave me with a phantom module has been working great.
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Except for this one:
In preferences I uncheck "Show Group Pane on Startup" but it's not saved, when I restart AHP it's checked again.
and I haven't looked if the macro report corrected this one:
I did a report on my macros and found it wasn't exactly correct. Two macros which ended calling an appliance control module showed the action as being on when the macro calls for an off. I can send the .ahp file if you'd like.
all seems good.
I use this correction alot:
Fixed problem with Advanced Command address sequences not running correctly (thanks, Charles).
it works!
Thanks guys :).
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The way that times work, they can't run past midnight.
It is the same way with timers. You can't have a light turn on at 10:00pm on Wednesday night, and turn off three hours later (at 1:00 am), without doing it as two separate events. the 1:00 AM is THURSDAY, not Wednesday.
It is the same with the macro logic. The time can never be between 6:00 pm and 6:00 am, because it looks at the day of the week. A time can't exist both AFTER 6:00 PM and before 6:00 AM, ON THE SAME DAY. You need an OR condition for that.
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Re: Unable to update to 3.202 (see previous post)
Thanks Tuicemen for your reply. When I tried to update, a new folder was created under Program Files called ActiveHome~1. I find this usually means something was wrong with the appropriate location. After trying various renames, file transfers, and re-updates, none of the other plugins would show as registered. But, the following worked: I renamed Program Files/ActiveHome Pro folder and created a new (empty) folder with the correct name. When I updated to 3.202, nothing was placed in the new folder but all the plugins showed registered. Of course, no .ahx file was present so no rooms/modules present. I closed AHP, deleted the empty folder, and renamed the original folder to it's original name (ActiveHome Pro). When AHP was started it it showed all plugins registered and everything else as built previously.
Seems like something in the original folder had prevented the update program from checking plugin status, or the info is stored internal and external to the folder (registry?) and didn't match. Now that I'm back in the original folder I may still have update problems. Maybe someone can explain what was going on here.
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WinS: glad you found the problem faster then me! ;)
Chris S. AHP can't process time after 1200 pm as it is a new day, for it to do so would mean you'd run out of memory on your PC(no mater how much you had)
Noam is right it his post on how to get a macro to run between the times
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WinS: glad you found the problem faster then me! ;)
Chris S. AHP can't process time after 1200 pm as it is a new day, for it to do so would mean you'd run out of memory on your PC(no mater how much you had)
Noam is right it his post on how to get a macro to run between the times
I assume that this is a bug, and Noam's post is a work around ?
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Nope! You can't be between 6 pm and 6 am of the same day (day ends at 1200 pm where I live ;) ) you can how ever be between 6am and 6 pm of the same day! ;)
Since the day starts at 1 second after 1200 before 6am makes the program look at time before that time of day, as After 6pm looks at time after that time of day! ;)
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Tuicemen: I think you mean 12:00 AM is the dividing line for a day.
I'm not sure I understand what Tuicemen mean's in talking about running out of memory, but Noam is correct in his explanation of day processing in the CM15A & AHP, and it's not a bug.
A day in AHP is from midnight through 23:59, and all of the time comparison operations in macro conditions work off of this. If you use the "Time between" condition in a macro, it processes the logic you need to make the comparison work. "Between 6pm and 6am" is automatically turned into "before 6am OR after 6pm" for you. If you use the "Between" condition you don't have to worry about the internal logic; it will just work.
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Tuicemen: I think you mean 12:00 AM is the dividing line for a day.
true! or maybe 11:59 pm ;)
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Thanks for the explanation, X10Pro.
You would have the same problem if you tried to set the condition to be "If it is Sunday, AND it is Monday." It will never be true, but I wouldn't call that a bug, and I wouldn't consider my answer a "workaround," but rather "using the software the way it was designed to work."
Most software packages that handle time would agree that a time range, with the first time AFTER the second time, is invalid. Most, however, will at least give you an error. AHP doesn't give you an error.
How about it, X10 Pro? Can this be put in (to not allow you to save invalid time ranges)?
Or what about adding a "Condition Checker"? You can tell it what time and day, and what other modules, flags, conditions, etc, and it will tell you what commands it would run on that macro. It would really help troubleshoot things like this.
And/or, perhaps a "debug" mode that would tell you WHY it runs or doesn't run a macro (which conditions were/were not met).
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I have to agree with Noam, but my question is this: I know a lot about computers, build them, set them up, can hook up networks, and get through firewalls ECT. But when it comes to H/A, I am not a programmer, how is the end user suppose to know what the conditions mean. If I see a Time Range condition of time is between 6:00Pm and 6:00Am turn lights on, if the time is between 6:00Am and 6:00Pm do not turn the lights on, and the software accepts this condition, I am thinking this is going to work. Now that I am reading the forms, it all makes sense, but it is not that easy when you first start out, and you think you know what you are doing. (Did that come out right?) If AHP would kick up an ERROR it would make us stop and think, not to mention cut down on X10 support calls.
I for one was ready to give up, lots of money ( in my book anyway) invested, did every thing I could think of to make it work to no avail. If not for the help of Tuicemen I would have gave up. I think X10 has a great product at a competitive price to the end user, but we the end user need to know how to work it. Any way enough rambling, thanks X10 Pro for being there and thanks to everyone on this site for helping out.
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How about it, X10 Pro? Can this be put in (to not allow you to save invalid time ranges)?
Or what about adding a "Condition Checker"? You can tell it what time and day, and what other modules, flags, conditions, etc, and it will tell you what commands it would run on that macro. It would really help troubleshoot things like this.
And/or, perhaps a "debug" mode that would tell you WHY it runs or doesn't run a macro (which conditions were/were not met).
Good idea Noam I'll second that Idea! ;)
error checking would catch problems such as that! :) ;)
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HI,
I've upgraded to ahp 3.202.
No problem found for the moment.
I'll try myHouse later ...
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If you use the "Time between" condition in a macro, it processes the logic you need to make the comparison work. "Between 6pm and 6am" is automatically turned into "before 6am OR after 6pm" for you. If you use the "Between" condition you don't have to worry about the internal logic; it will just work.
"Between 6pm and 6am" is automatically turned into "before 6am OR after 6pm"
If what X10Pro states the condition should work and be true from 6:01pm to 11:59pm and 12:00am to 5:59am.
So the macro should also work.
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My Simple setup has been working this week #1 is good... hope this weekend I can play with it more.
AHP running for 24/4 days?
I just updated, I didn't redownload or reinstall or change anything with my setup.
not much info on the video problems yet?
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Just found another little bug seems my location was reset to Seattle, WA
This will cause alot of dusk dawn problem posts but then maybe I was the only one! ;)
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I just updated, I didn't redownload or reinstall or change anything with my setup.
not much info on the video problems yet?
Mystyx:
Is your video recording working for you useing macros ?
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I will turn it on after work tonight and see (no weekday crashing allowed) :)
I dint think my sound came on when I plugged it in though, Ill have to reset those macros.
my timestamp didn't change after update... but I haven't touched anything yet.
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Smart Macros Conditions:
I have had some problems with conditions and flags not being recognized, if time is between 6:00pm & 6:00am turn lights on, if between 6:00am & 6:00pm do not turn lights on, I have not tried these but hope to play with the Smart Macros some in the next day or two. If flags and conditions are fixed this would be a major plus.
The problem is that you can't test a between time that crosses midnight. eg between 6:00pm & 6:00am is really seen by AHP as [(6pm-midnight) AND (12:01am-6am)]. ie 9pm would pass the 1st part of the condition but not the 2nd. Similarly 1am would fail. So any time between that range would fail the condition. I believe this can't be changed due to fact X10 conditions must be in the same day.
To create the 6pm & 6am between time condition you have to set it up in a manner that might at first would seem illogical. ie [(6pm-midnight) OR (12:01am-6am)].
I hope that helps. I don't have an example handy as it has been awhile since I needed to cross the bewitching hour. I tend to use an offset of dusk and dawn for most of my outdoor lighting needs.
...and yet another reason X10 in not for the faint at heart. ;)
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I have been having problems with my AHP "Not responding" after a period of time so I decided to update to v3.202 using the url at the beginning of this thread. I downloaded and tried to install but received a notice "A newer version of this installation is on the server. Please re-download this installation"!
I tried "re-downloading" but contine to get the same message. Anyone have any suggestions on what I could possibly do or where else "on the server" I could look for an update? :-\
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ray: We're going to release a new update today, so that will take care of the problem.
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That was quick! Thanks. :)
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I just updated, I didn't redownload or reinstall or change anything with my setup.
not much info on the video problems yet?
Mystyx:
Is your video recording working for you useing macros ?
NO