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 on: November 14, 2018, 09:07:35 PM 
Started by dhouston - Last post by petera
I'm fascinated at the aversion to Linux on this forum. It's not like it it's a new kid on the block. It's very accessible to anyone who wishes to explore it and of course it's free, as in beer  :)

Maybe in its previous incarnations it may have been a little too techie or fragmented for some but with the arrival of the single board computer in the shape of the Raspberry Pi the community input is vast and informative. Exactly what I imagine a forum like this would aspire to.

I fear Windows is going down that very same rabbit hole quicker than the rabbits.  rofl

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 on: November 14, 2018, 08:23:45 PM 
Started by bkenobi - Last post by petera
I was under the impression that Mochad couldn't do some things.  I wasn't aware that the issue was in the wrapper implementing it into the different HA software.  That being the case, there's no reason to consider using Gene's code since it only works in Mono.  If people went with Domoticz, HA, or some other software it appears that the wrapper should be updated to work with RF better IMO.


From initial feedback there doesn't seem to be a huge interest in the whole Pi X10 concept but that shouldn't deter us from providing a platform for users who are to continue using their X10 devices on a Raspberry Pi

It may be a chicken and egg type thing.  Once it's really there and announced people may be more inclined to try it. Cost is certainly no barrier!
If someone invested $100 into AHP and a CM15A, then spending $10 (looks more like $20 for some reason) on a RPi Zero W and a little more for a few extra components is insignificant.  If the software is easy enough to set up, then people will accept it so long as it is reliable.  I can confirm HG is reliable and for basic things very easy to set up.  The only issue is the RPi and that's only a drawback if someone has no interest.  But, the image that is being worked on should remove that barrier as well.

It's exactly like HomeSeer. A Windows program that was adapted to run under Mono. Of course there's the small detail of cost with HomeSeer.

Mono has evolved leaps and bounds but at the end of the day you're running a Windows designed program in a Linux environment on the Raspberry Pi.

Maybe it's a case of the phobia FOL (Fear of Linux) in play here with the Raspberry Pi. Who knows. It doesn't exactly get great press on this forum.

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 on: November 14, 2018, 11:42:45 AM 
Started by bkenobi - Last post by bkenobi
I was under the impression that Mochad couldn't do some things.  I wasn't aware that the issue was in the wrapper implementing it into the different HA software.  That being the case, there's no reason to consider using Gene's code since it only works in Mono.  If people went with Domoticz, HA, or some other software it appears that the wrapper should be updated to work with RF better IMO.


From initial feedback there doesn't seem to be a huge interest in the whole Pi X10 concept but that shouldn't deter us from providing a platform for users who are to continue using their X10 devices on a Raspberry Pi

It may be a chicken and egg type thing.  Once it's really there and announced people may be more inclined to try it. Cost is certainly no barrier!
If someone invested $100 into AHP and a CM15A, then spending $10 (looks more like $20 for some reason) on a RPi Zero W and a little more for a few extra components is insignificant.  If the software is easy enough to set up, then people will accept it so long as it is reliable.  I can confirm HG is reliable and for basic things very easy to set up.  The only issue is the RPi and that's only a drawback if someone has no interest.  But, the image that is being worked on should remove that barrier as well.

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 on: November 14, 2018, 11:14:38 AM 
Started by dhouston - Last post by dhouston
I believe ActiveHomeVista used the AHP SDK so that sould mean even AHP would work  with you designed WM-101
I should have been more explicit in my description. The WM-101 will have built-in USB-to-Serial hardware (CH340G) so while PCs can connect via USB there's a PC driver needed which provides a virtual serial port and translates serial commands to USB (and vice versa) so it will only support software written for a serial connection.

It does, however, make it much easier to write Windows/Linux/OSX software

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 on: November 14, 2018, 10:41:36 AM 
Started by dhouston - Last post by dhouston
I never used AHP so am unfamiliar with its features. The device I've designed has options for RF RX/TX so it should be able to do everything the CM15A does plus it has WiFi.

Can anyone point me to any CM15A documentation or, lacking that, can you tell me what features you would like to see? When I get a bit of time, I'll also look at the ActiveHomeVista docs re the CM15A.

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 on: November 14, 2018, 10:33:51 AM 
Started by dhouston - Last post by Tuicemen
The Pi Zero W seems to require going down the Linux rabbit hole with which some oldtimers might be uncomfortable.

actually Linux is just the most popular OS used with the pi. Android and Windows core could be use. Neither of these I've  attempted to use on my zeroW, maybe during HA season I'll  experiment.
I believe ActiveHomeVista used the AHP SDK so that sould mean even AHP would work  with you designed WM-101

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 on: November 13, 2018, 06:39:01 PM 
Started by bkenobi - Last post by brobin

From initial feedback there doesn't seem to be a huge interest in the whole Pi X10 concept but that shouldn't deter us from providing a platform for users who are to continue using their X10 devices on a Raspberry Pi

It may be a chicken and egg type thing.  Once it's really there and announced people may be more inclined to try it. Cost is certainly no barrier!

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 on: November 13, 2018, 06:21:20 PM 
Started by Tuicemen - Last post by dave w
She loves HA and even though she rolls her eyes at some of things I do, she'll be the first to complain when it doesn't work.
 
That pretty much describes my wife also. I remember back in the early '90s I was using an Enerlogic 1400 for automation.

https://books.google.com/books?id=eXtrmPzKrwcC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=Enerlogic+1400&source=bl&ots=QrO9ljPoWK&sig=0D-3Tu3i7Iq2s9V208_zV8l-Xmc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiIjO79v9LeAhUDPq0KHcJrBrwQ6AEwAHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=Enerlogic%201400&f=false

Many times a command would be missed, maybe because of intermittent noise, and I would hear about it "Why can't we use a light switch like normal people?". But the Enerlogic blew a chip during a hardware hack, and it took me a couple of weeks to get the replacement. After week one, the daily conversation included "When is the house going to be fixed."  :'

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 on: November 13, 2018, 04:35:18 PM 
Started by HA Dave - Last post by HA Dave
Speaking of "what got us started in HA,.... grandmother took me with her one afternoon to see "Pillow Talk" ... The bachelor pad scene did it for me.

I think for many of us here.... movies and/or TV opened our minds to the possibilities and shaped our expectations. Life.... imitating art

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 on: November 13, 2018, 01:47:32 PM 
Started by bkenobi - Last post by petera
I have been using HG for years and it's fine.  The only issue that I'm really concerned about is the programming of custom scripts.  HG works, but the way you reference modules is not intuitive.  I don't know how HA and Domoticz do it, but HG is NOT like AHP API.  In the AHP approach you wait for a triggered event and respond.  In HG, the code can be triggered by timed events or value changes (sensors, modules, etc) however, you have to loop through everything in the system to figure out which event triggered it.  Unless Gene changed things since I wrote my Advanced Smart Lights code, it's NOT intuitive.

IOW, it is possible to do almost anything you want with HG in code, but the way you get there is not conducive to new people coming in and writing their own code.  In other languages you can have pseudo code and convert it to real code very quickly.  With HG, you can use the pseudo code as  a guide, but it can't be executed in that order necessarily.

The strength in HG is the ability to code in C#, Python or Ruby.

The X10 side of this project will be very basic but should fulfill any users needs. No it's not AHP but there is no credible alternative to AHP out there and I don't see anyone investing any further time or energy into replicating another AHP.

From initial feedback there doesn't seem to be a huge interest in the whole Pi X10 concept but that shouldn't deter us from providing a platform for users who are to continue using their X10 devices on a Raspberry Pi


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