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dave w

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WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« on: November 16, 2006, 12:44:34 PM »

Hey "oldtimers" !

I am trying to locate about six of the vintage 1980's-1990's "light bulb life extender" diode disk that you attached to a light bulb base or dropped in the light socket. The diode cut voltage to the bulb by half, thus greatly extending the life (very handy for difficult to access locations, which I have four of).  I remember seeing "lots" (quantities of +1000 as I remember) of them on eBay about a year or so ago, so I suspect the manufacturer may have gone out of business.

Anyone know where I can get some of these?

Thanks!!!
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2006, 12:49:56 PM »

I've decided I could use a half dozen myself.
BTW... There's no reason why they would affect an X10 signal is there? Also anyone remember how much do they reduce the light output?
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Re: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2006, 01:21:09 PM »

BTW... There's no reason why they would affect an X10 signal is there?

I don't have any so I don't know for sure, but the only potential problem might be with switches that don't use the Neutral wire and get that path thru the light bulb for their internal circuitry.

I'm sure there has to be an oldtimer out there that uses them and can say for sure.
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2006, 10:12:54 PM »


...Also anyone remember how much do they reduce the light output?

I'd like to say about 50%, because, logically the bulb is only getting ½ of the sine wave. But, IIRC, reading on the NG:comp.home.automation, duty-cycle vs. watts consumed wasn't proportional (SEARCH for Dave Houston - he did a *LOT* of interesting tests).

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One device sold to do this is an ordinary silicon diode built into a cap that is made to stick to the base of a light bulb. A diode lets current through in only one direction, causing the bulb to get power only 50 percent of the time if it is operated on AC. This effectively reduces the applied voltage by about 30 percent. (Reducing the voltage to its original value times the square root of .5 results in the same power consumption as applying full voltage half the time.) The life expectancy is increased very dramatically. However, the power consumption is reduced by about 40 percent (not 50 since the cooler filament has less resistance) and light output is reduced by about 70 percent (cooler filaments are less efficient at radiating visible light).

Before *CHEAP* CFLs, I replaced a 25 Watt Tungsten in the kitchen over the little breakfast table with a 40 Watt Tungsten with thumbswitch / diode. WAF didn't change, so, I guess it was close. :-\


...There's no reason why they would affect an X10 signal is there?

Come on Steven - what kind of Tinkerer / Oldtimer are you? ::)

  • Wall switch or lamp module
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  • 1N400X diode, where X > 2
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  • 120VAC Test lamp (or drop light or old lamp, etc...)
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  • A few pieces of scrap zip cord, alligator clips, wire nuts, etc...

Please be sure to post your results!  ;)
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2006, 11:59:45 AM »

Sooooo I guess this means nobody knows where Steve and I can get some, huh? (I'm referring to the "Light Bulb Life Extenders"!!)
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2006, 12:23:57 PM »

Searched around but couldn't find them... but I found this interesting:

The History Of Incandescent Bulbs

Maybe ask their Customer Service if they carry them.  ;)
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2006, 12:54:36 PM »

I almost fond them :-[     THE BUTTON: Sold Out! No longer available.


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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2006, 02:47:38 PM »

Well rats!!

But thanks to all for all the help!
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2006, 08:37:17 PM »

Rather than bothering with varistor or diode disks, a better way to go is to use the current generation of spiral glass fluorescent bulbs. The 13 watt variety is equivalent to a 60 watt incandescent lamp. These bulbs save a ton of energy and are very long lasting. They are not suitable for X10 brightness control but may be easily turned on and off using appliance modules. Good sources include Lowe's and Home Depot.

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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2006, 10:44:38 PM »

CFLs are fine in LM15A Socket Rockets.  Since  Socket Rockets don't dim, they are perfect with them.
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2006, 12:46:10 AM »

Tick... Tick... Tick... ;)
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2006, 11:59:38 AM »

Thanks "FromDimension12"
But I want to extend the life of some application specific, incandesent bulbs. I need to source the diode disks, or throw some 1N4006 in the line.

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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2006, 12:35:43 PM »

Has anyone tried putting a diode in series with the switch?
Would this be safe? If so, what diode would you recommend?
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2006, 12:51:30 PM »

Has anyone tried putting a diode in series with the switch?
Would this be safe? If so, what diode would you recommend?

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Maybe-maybe not. Definately ain't "code".
These'll do.
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/D660/205/RECT_DIODE_6AMP_600PIV_.html
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Re: WTB: Bulb Life Extenders
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2006, 01:59:38 PM »

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Longlite Energy-saving Light Bulb Semiconductors (25-pack)
Used by many large and well known hotel and industrial businesses for years, Longlite is now offering this energy saving device for residential home use in a 25-count pack. The patented and UL/CE certified QL-3 is a semiconductor power control device. Their documented technology increases lamp life by 300 percent and saves 10-percent energy. In addition, the QL-3's Soft Start capability protects the lamp against unwanted voltage spikes, including during in-rush.

Simply peel off the adhesive backing and secure the semiconductor to the base of your home light bulbs.

  • Attaches to bottom of bulb contact with transfer adhesive
  • Use with existing or new bulb 
  • 120- and 130-volt applications 
  • Up to 150 watts 
  • Universal operating position 
  • Dimmable with standard dimmers 
  • Patented Micro-chip technology uses speed switching to control and reduce the voltage received by the lamp 
  • Soft Start technology protects against in-rush 
  • Supports Energy Star, Energy policy Act Standards, and LEED, ASHRAE/IES initiatives 
  • Conserves natural resources and reduces pollution 
  • Maintains visible light level 
  • Flicker free 
  • No audible line noise 
  • No interruption of the tungsten halogen cycle 
  • No change in Color Rendering Index (CRI) 
  • No changes to color temperature (chromaticity or Kelvins) 

For use ONLY with incandescent and halogen type light bulbs. Will NOT work on fluorescent bulbs.

Warranty: 1 Year -- Manufacturer
Materials: Plastic, metal
Model No: QL-3
Dimensions: .75 in. x .25 in.


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