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Author Topic: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???  (Read 34932 times)

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Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« on: November 15, 2007, 09:48:06 PM »

Why doesn't x10 make a decent omnidirectional antenna like the setup below. That's why so many people have to go through the acrobatics of trying to adjust the directional antenna on the receiver they make. If you have cameras in the front and the back of your house it's a real balancing act to try to get reception from both and that hogwash about laying it flat is well....... hogwash!!!!!!!!!!!! take a look at the system below and you tell me if this wouldn't be a better way to go.

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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2007, 12:40:14 AM »

I have often wondered the very same thing.

Especially if you mount the X10 cam to a "ninja" pan-tilt base!

What were they thinking (or maybe smoking) when they came up with this?   ???
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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2007, 02:23:55 AM »

I have often wondered the very same thing....
Yeah me too. My flood cams are in opposite directions from my computer. There's really no ideal solution with a single receiver.
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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2007, 05:53:11 PM »

I have often wondered the very same thing.

Especially if you mount the X10 cam to a "ninja" pan-tilt base!

What were they thinking (or maybe smoking) when they came up with this?   ???

Yep, Yep!!!! I forgot to mention the ninja especially with the ninja mount, must have to do with money. X10 is known for trying to say a few pennies here and there. They can probably get away with a cheaper receiver or something whatever it is I bet you it has to do with cost!!!

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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2007, 09:13:00 PM »

I had purchased a tiny little wireless camera (powered by a 9 volt battery) that I duct taped to a remote controlled (toy) Humvee. It has a little nub of a wire antenna, and a omnidirectional receiver. I have set in my easychair and driven the device around in both my front and backyard.... MUCH better flexability than with a "patch" antenna.

The receiver also works with my X10 cameras.
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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2007, 10:08:50 PM »

...The receiver also works with my X10 cameras.
Hmm.. Are you saying you discovered an omni directional receiver that works with all the X10 cameras?
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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2007, 10:14:03 PM »

...The receiver also works with my X10 cameras.
Hmm.. Are you saying you discovered an omni directional receiver that works with all the X10 cameras?

Yes.... but I dont use the sound... not legal here to listen.
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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2007, 05:15:59 PM »

...The receiver also works with my X10 cameras.
Hmm.. Are you saying you discovered an omni directional receiver that works with all the X10 cameras?

Yes.... but I dont use the sound... not legal here to listen.


Dave REALLY?????????? where WHERE!!!!!! we want to know, I didn't know that's what you were saying! we all want to know fill us in PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2007, 10:53:35 PM »



Dave REALLY?????????? where WHERE!!!!!! we want to know, I didn't know that's what you were saying! we all want to know fill us in PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wait.... what I said was I bought a camera (an OFF-brand) that can also pick up an X10 video (I don't use sound with my cameras). In my original post I included a link (below) to the camera/receiver. I know I can receive VIDEO on channel D.

I had purchased a tiny little wireless camera (powered by a 9 volt battery) that I duct taped to a remote controlled (toy) Humvee. It has a little nub of a wire antenna, and a omnidirectional receiver. I have set in my easychair and driven the device around in both my front and backyard.... MUCH better flexability than with a "patch" antenna.

The receiver also works with my X10 cameras.
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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2007, 01:06:05 PM »

Dave,

I liked the looks of that camera/receiver combo.  Also the 'ability' of the receiver able to work with
X-10 Cam's, so I ordered one.  :)
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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2007, 02:58:28 AM »

Took this off another post here on the wireless Cameras board seems like a lot of folks agree with me,

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Regarding the quality of x10 products in general, I found that everything can be made to work as advertised except for the wireless video transmission, which is really not good enough for use with multiple cameras in a typical home even if it is cheap.  The reason is that while you may be able to get 1 or 2 positioned just right, getting the receiver antenna positioned just right to be able to clearly receive a wireless video signal from 8 different camera locations is unlikely.
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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2007, 03:02:37 AM »

I had purchased a tiny little wireless camera (powered by a 9 volt battery) that I duct taped to a remote controlled (toy) Humvee. It has a little nub of a wire antenna, and a omnidirectional receiver. I have set in my easychair and driven the device around in both my front and backyard.... MUCH better flexability than with a "patch" antenna.

The receiver also works with my X10 cameras.

Humm sorry Dave didn't see that link whoops  :o think I might pick one up also, thanks!

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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 01:18:48 AM »

I had purchased a tiny little wireless camera (powered by a 9 volt battery) that I duct taped to a remote controlled (toy) Humvee. It has a little nub of a wire antenna, and a omnidirectional receiver. I have set in my easychair and driven the device around in both my front and backyard.... MUCH better flexability than with a "patch" antenna.

The receiver also works with my X10 cameras.

Dave you obviously have dealt with these folks before whats your opinion on this set of four seems like there's a remote of some sort, wondering what the picture quality is like, might just dump my x10 stuff note the receiver is Omnidirectional!!   :P Thanks!

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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 09:30:20 AM »

Tom,

You would know the price would DROP day after I made my order.  :(
But it looks good.

I like the omni idea also.  :)
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Re: Why Doesn't X10 Make An Omnidirectional Antenna???
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 09:39:00 AM »


Dave you obviously have dealt with these folks before.........


I've bought a few things from Geeks.com. I have always been happy with my purchases.


 ...........whats your opinion on this set of four seems like there's a remote of some sort, wondering what the picture quality is like, might just dump my x10 stuff note the receiver is Omnidirectional!!   :P Thanks!

Tom j

I use both wired and wireless cameras, color and B&W, IR and regular, X10 and non-X10.......... my favorite are the X10 cams. X10 cameras are tough, little easy to hide, work horses. And best yet for intergrading into a Home Automation system.

I have an IR camera mounted where it can be easily spotted by a potential intruder! It is larger than the X10 cams, it is painted silver and glows RED when on. I think it works well as a deterrent, and its great for manually (by manually... I mean saying: "Computer... nightvision camera ON") peeking outside (from my easychair) when it's dark outside.

However... I also have several lights and floodlights on motion sensors. The lights also serve as a deterrent, and make IR unnecessary. As an added deterrent.... I also have an outside voice announcement I created using the X10 motion sensor and BVC. I show the lights and announcement on the video from my Web Site.

I am a big believer in deterring intruders.... I started a thread on the subject.
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