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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2010, 08:33:26 PM »

jtykal gets a big +1 from me. Nothing is more helpful than lending spare parts to a friend.
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2010, 11:14:55 PM »

jtykal gets a big +1 from me. Nothing is more helpful than lending spare parts to a friend.

Amen to that! I received the ICON from jtykal today. And we are back in business.

Thanks again Jim.
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2010, 06:38:14 AM »

I love it when a plan comes together.
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2010, 12:16:27 PM »

Amen to that! I received the ICON from jtykal today. And we are back in business.

Thanks again Jim.

Happy to help Ron!
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2010, 04:49:45 PM »

I think I might know what killed my old ICON. Static.

I live at 9800tf in the high dry sky where relative humidity is anywhere from 0 to 7 percent in the winter.
My wife an I cant even smooch during the winter months without touching hands or something first which isn't so bad but the static is so bad a pre-pet of some sort before kiss is second nature and required unless you want sparky lips. My dog ducks when you go to pet her from all the static shocks to her noggin. Poor puppy.

Last night I put my laptop on the end table next to me and as I shuffled around my hand waved over the new ICON sitting on that table and it woke up.

Now I know I'm as cool as they come but never thought I was actually a magic man.. yea with the magic hands.
- Just kidding guys btw.

Guess it's time for some static guard, as I remember being able to static activate the old ICON too.

By the way the icon has some of the most high tech surface mount chip carriers I have ever seen. They look just like a black play dough blob with traces coming out from under it.
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2010, 06:49:00 PM »

Funny you should mention that, Ron.

Just before the memorial for your ICON, Bill suggested that static could have flashed the memory on your remote.
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2010, 07:32:50 PM »

......... Last night I put my laptop on the end table next to me and as I shuffled around my hand waved over the new ICON sitting on that table and it woke up.

Didn't steven r have a cat that would wake the ICON? And it was also agreed... it likely was cat static.
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2010, 08:14:02 PM »

The buttons on it only have 1.5v bias above ground.
Them's some small logic thresholds. 'Prolly common anymore though.
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2010, 10:10:15 PM »

Has anyone ever tried... or know anything about these kind of anti-static devices?
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2010, 10:15:32 PM »

Obviously not I. ;D

No reviews neither.
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2010, 10:16:27 PM »

A humidifier also helps reduce static charges, as well as minimize contraction of building materials and make the home easier to heat.
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2010, 07:45:52 AM »


Didn't steven r have a cat that would wake the ICON? And it was also agreed... it likely was cat static.
The static issue was brought up during the Beta testing and more shielding was suggested if I remember ::) :'
Even my none RF version wakes up with static. :(
Maybe a X10 hidden agenda:
 Get you hooked on your Icon then zap it so you have to buy another to satisfy your dependency  rofl
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2010, 08:16:42 AM »


Didn't steven r have a cat that would wake the ICON? And it was also agreed... it likely was cat static.

Maybe a X10 hidden agenda:
 

Uh huh!

Just like the puffy capacitor saga!

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2580805/samsung_lcd_televisions_now_the_focus.html?cat=9#comments

This affects almost all LCDs made recently and many P5 motherboards until they went to solid caps.
Do don't suppose they build this "service failure" into the unit do ya?

--- oh here we go.   :)+ 
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2010, 03:41:40 PM »


By the way the icon has some of the most high tech surface mount chip carriers I have ever seen. They look just like a black play dough blob with traces coming out from under it.


FYI Only,

It's called "C5 Array" by the inventor - Motorola...

Which means it is probably known by another name in the rest of the industry.
 
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6229097/claims.html   This is a later "trim window" adaptation. I believe the original C5 mounting technology was pioneered by mother "M" in the 90s.

Main advantage is you do not have to "flop" board layout during board design like you would have to do if mounting an "off-shelf" die upside down in a ceramic chip carrier. But the design created more problems at the field repair end because the polyaminent substrait could absorb moisture during storage at the service facility, if not stored properly. The hot air bonder (a $13K soldering iron) would turn the embedded moisture to steam and the substrait would delaminate, making the part useless. Other than that...it works great!   ;D
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Re: ICON Remote died.
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2010, 04:28:50 PM »

It looks just like this.
Wiki says it's called a chip on a board. A carrierless chip that is protected with epoxy.

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