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Author Topic: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr  (Read 14539 times)

myc6toy

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VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« on: November 18, 2011, 12:12:46 PM »

I just purchased the Wireless Audio/Video Sender and Receiver VK82A. I am very disappointed that I received a "new" VR50A receiver, but the "old" VT30A transmitter.

Is there much of a difference between the new VT50 Transmitter and the older VT30A ?  Should I start screaming for the proper new unit. (I purchased two of these units , the other for a different use, but received the old Transmitter as well)

I purchased these units to try and extend my wireless camera range as described in a previous post. Camera on channel "A". receiver on channel "A" -- Rx wired to Transmitter via RCA cables, Transmitter set to channel "D" and my VR36A at computer set to channel "D"

When I try this setup, the picture gets a "little" better quality, but it is constantly flashing between a black screen and then proper image, ans about a 1-2 Hz rate

Thanks in advance for any advise.
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Noam

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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 12:22:35 PM »

Are you bringing the signal into AHP, or some other software on the PC?
There was a bug in AHP 3.315 (supposedly fixed in 3.316 and later) that caused the video flicker.
If you are running 3.315, you should upgrade to 3.318 (the latest as of this post), from here:
http://www.x10.com/support/support_soft1.htm
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Brian H

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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 12:59:49 PM »

VR50A and a VT30A?

If my FCC database searching is correct.
The VT30A is a 2.4GHz sender but the VR50A is a 5.8GHz receiver. Does the label on it indicate it is a 5.8GHz receiver?
To confuse things more the VR50 {no A suffix} is part of the Pro version using 921MHz.

Since the VR50A down converts the 5.8GHZ to a 2.4GHz receiver. I wounder if the 2.4GHz signal from the VT30 is sneaking though the front end sort of.

Also even if you have both the sender and receiver using the 2.4GHz band. Setting the camera on "A" and the second transmitter on "D" could have then interfering with each other. Any wireless networks in the mix to cause interference?
« Last Edit: November 18, 2011, 01:21:15 PM by Brian H »
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Brian H

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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 01:19:37 PM »

VK82A manual indicates it is a VT46A sender and a VR46A receiver.
X10 has been doing all kinds of substitutions as items are going out of stock.
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myc6toy

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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 01:33:29 PM »

Thanks for the quick replies !!

I am using the latest version of AHP (3.318)

What I ordered was : http://www.x10.com/whatsincluded/VK82A-SENDER-HMP-UP3.html, which is supposed to be (2.4 GHz Wireless Audio/Video Sender and Receiver (VK82A) qty 2 with the 5-1 remote.

Only other 2.4 Ghz is my wireless LAN but it was turned off for my testing, but when its on it does not seem to interfere as much as the microwave. (wireless Lan aprox 10' for VR36, and Microwave oven +30"away)

I will get the exact part numbers off the Tx and RX when I get home but what I had as chicken scratch is VT30A and VR50A
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myc6toy

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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2011, 09:46:31 AM »

They sent me a VT30a and a VR46A, so new receiver and old transmitter.
 Is this older transmitter the same as the newer space ship looking one ?
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Brian H

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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 10:21:29 AM »

The VT46A part of the VK82 kit is not the same as the VT30A.
The VT46A uses a LSI IC to do allmost all the frequency determination and video processing. Also has the PowerMid IR Extender feature.
The VT30A part of the VK30A Kit, has a LC frequency determination and video processing. Also No PowerMid IR Extender circuitry.
So no they are not equivalent in my mind.
The VK82A kits photos in the FCC Database show a "Radio Shack" Label on them.  ;D

Depending on which people you believe. X10 has been reported to be in financial troubles and is substituting stuff as the original devices went out of stock.

I think in your case the problem is more that channel A from the camera to its receiver and the channel D for resending the video to the computer maybe interfering with each other or you have some Hum on the cable between the first receiver and the second transmitter.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2011, 10:24:30 AM by Brian H »
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myc6toy

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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 01:14:24 PM »

Thanks Brian

I just got off the phone with X10, and they are going to do an exchange.
Apparently they had problems with the VK82 system and its no longer available, but a "new" Wireless video system is coming out next week.
I see on the web site that there is no VK82A, but a VK83A Video Sender PRO, supposedly using a different freq. better range etc.

I will keep everyone updated.

Thanks for all the help and info

from Web site :
Advanced Signal Protection (ASP) - Say Goodbye to Interference

ASP (Advanced Signal Protection) means that your Video Sender PRO is compatible with your home wireless network. If you've had problems with a Video Sender interfering with your Wi-Fi network in the past, have no worries! ASP means no interference!

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Brian H

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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 01:25:03 PM »

Yes the Sender Pro Kit was being sold for a few months now, but had gone out of stock.
If the VK83A is the one I am thinking of. It uses 921MHz for its frequency and definitely should not interfeere with your camera to first receivers signals.
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myc6toy

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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 01:45:06 PM »

The lady at X10 said a  "new system being released on the 28th" so maybe like some of the other equipment they are selling, it will be made by Westinghouse  -:)
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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 04:18:13 PM »

Thanks for the updated information.
The VK83A was the Pro version of the sender kits and I believe sold out a while back.

I agree. It sounds like X10 is going to be carrying a third party Westinghouse sender kit from now on.
So for now we have no real data on what it will be.
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Re: VT30A substituted for a VT50A Grr
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2011, 08:35:26 PM »

Just remember the old joke "You can sue if it's Westinghouse".
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