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Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« on: January 23, 2014, 12:19:58 PM »

I think I saw this discussed here some time ago. 
But for the life of me I can't find it now.

I have a water pump that I turn on manually by an x10 console.
A hot water circulating pump.
I often forget to turn it off.
I was trying to figure out a way to have an x10 off signal sent after an hour, if I forget.
I want to monitor the x10 on signal for that device, and after a delay send an off.

I realize this can be done with a full blown software home automation system, but i thought there was a module that can do it.

Anyone got any simple ideas? I am looking into an arduino solution, but that seems like a lot for what I am trying to do.



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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2014, 01:47:44 PM »

Create a simple macro with the trigger  the On signal for your water pump.
Add the condition to Delay 1 hour then add the signal to turn off your water pump.
click save and download to the interface if that option is available.
Macros are able to run up to 4 hours in length so the time you wish your water pump to run is no problem.
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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2014, 01:58:05 PM »

Except I was trying to avoid using any big software solution like Activehome.
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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 02:10:03 PM »

Do you have the SDK or AHP installed?
Can you write a script?
Are you experienced in batch file creating?
AHP is hardly a big software solution.
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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 02:30:18 PM »

I have nothing computer controlling X10 installed. 

I realize I could do this with that, this post was asking for a non software solution.
Like some module.

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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2014, 02:32:08 PM »

Are you saying you want to send the command from an X10 module of some kind rather than using a program saved on the CM15A or CM11A?  If so, the only thing I can recommend is using a time delay relay and a Powerflash module (PF284 or PSC01).  But, you'd also probably need a Universal Module (UM506 or PUM01) to receive the start for the timer.  If it were me, I'd get a CM11A or CM15A and program it with AHP and then disconnect it from the PC since you want autonomous.

Alternately, you could get an Arduino and a TW523 (2-way) or PL513 (transmit only) module and a button.  You could code the Arduino to accept the button push and immediately send ON to the pump.  Then, delay 1 hour prior to sending OFF.  This would be cheaper than the Power Flash/time delay relay/Universal Module option.  It would be more expensive than the CM11A or CM15A option probably.  The CM15A/CM11A option is the easiest and cleanest approach.
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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2014, 02:37:48 PM »

OK, so those two modules can run autonomous.  
I probably have some of those CM11A or CM15A in my archives.  I'll try that.
Thanks!
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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2014, 02:41:05 PM »

Sorry, I was modifying my response when you posted.

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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2014, 03:36:04 PM »

Well, is there a place to download ActiveHome Pro now?
Someone must have archived that stuff.

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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2014, 03:39:45 PM »

Currently you can only get the European version of AHP from Marmitec
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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2014, 03:59:57 PM »

You have to buy it?
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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2014, 06:06:11 PM »

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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2014, 07:29:19 PM »

Wow, well thanks.
I got that download.
What's the difference in the euro version?  Is that an important distinction?

I looked in my archives and I found a couple of CM11A, without serial cable.
I found the pintout of the cable at
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=50622785

So I guess I will just make a cable. 
Thanks! 


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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2014, 06:03:56 AM »

If memory serves me. The CM11A will  not work with the euro version of AHP.
The US version. Added CM11A and CM15K {CM19A with TM751A} support in the later versions. When the CM15A was out of stock and X10WTI was having financial difficulties.

The older Active Home software shipped with the CM11A is still be avilable and is free.
It had Windows XP comm port issues for some users. Can't say if it runs on Vista and newer versions.
Avilable for download here.
http://www.x10.com/software

NOTE: The AHP software listed on the above link. Are installers only and require a download from the X10 servers to install and probably your registration numbers.
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Re: Send an off signal automatically after a time passes
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2014, 10:29:01 AM »

If the european version does not support my CM11A this will not work.
Can anyone verify this?  I don't have the CM11A cable yet so i cannot test the european version.
I'll make a cable in the next couple days and test this.

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NOTE: The AHP software listed on the above link.
Are installers only and require a download from the X10 servers
to install and probably your registration numbers.

If that's so then these downloads are worthless, since as someone posted those download servers are down.
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