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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #75 on: November 07, 2016, 11:51:28 AM »

AHHHH, zombie crockpot!   :o

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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #77 on: November 13, 2016, 01:03:50 PM »

In an article about the recent DDoS attacks, I came across this...
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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #78 on: November 14, 2016, 11:31:12 AM »

Sounds about right.

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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #80 on: December 04, 2016, 12:38:09 PM »

Here's one attempt to tie various HA & IoT things together.
https://www.fastcompany.com/3065864/tech-forecast/inside-ifttts-plan-for-a-more-harmonious-internet?partner=rss&google_editors_picks=true

Nice piece. This sounds/reads a lot like what Apple's "homekit" does. Using the app now included with iPhone 10 OS (plus 3 other apps) I can consolidate the functions of (in my case) two different HA flavors to function together in one macro (they call it a robot... I believe).

My garage door  is a chamberlain... that has a hub-like unit that connects it to the internet through my router. The door functions like a normal garage door... push a button in the car... door opens.

But because of the My-Q (hub) connection and apps... door activity also uses sounds/banners for phone notifications. And our phone can also control the door from anywhere.

But now with the Apple homekit compatibility.... a cloud based "robot" (macro) will turn on interior ihome brand lights if the garage door is open after sunset.... but before normal leaving-for-work time.


This does appear to use the "if this than that" type of setup. And, it works flawlessly.

Meanwhile.... X10 (and my BVC and Kate16 voice and a CM15A connection to an old XP laptop... hardwired to a speaker system) gives me voice prompts/warning of door activity when inside the home.

Note: I can use the "hey Siri" function on my iPhone to turn on/off homekit connected lights (NOT X10). But I have yet to try to setup the same "hey Siri" function to open/close the garage door.
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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2016, 01:27:04 PM »

This does appear to use the "if this than that" type of setup. And, it works flawlessly.
I think I was doing IFTTT long before there were things but the concept was the same with the BX24-AHT...
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but, in those days, I thought of it as a switchboard and even considered calling it Ernestine.
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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #82 on: February 08, 2017, 01:25:46 PM »

This is long overdue.
http://www.politico.eu/pro/army-of-light-bulbs-cameras-attack-defenseless-eu-internet-of-things-security/
Let's hope it leads to better security.

I have my router email me daily a log of activity over the past 24 hours. I then search the log for a telltale [DoS attack: ACK Scan] of attempts to enlist my router in a DDoS army. I see an attempt every 2-3 weeks.
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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #84 on: May 01, 2017, 10:05:08 AM »

People tend to turn their back to some threats... as a way of keeping order in their own minds. Often times people turn away from one threat simply to avoid dealing with it. I think that is true with cyber security. Of course... the same can be said of acts of international terrorism.

The world is increasingly shrinking to a large neighborhood in size. And it isn't a nice neighborhood. The good news is... there have always plenty of shady people in the world, and nothing has gotten any worst. When it comes down to either a loved one getting their throat slit in a parking lot.... or a bank's credit card in their possession being compromised on-line... the preferred choice is an easy one.

I've had to remind my wife a couple times to be aware while we were out shopping. It doesn't matter how we "feel". To the bad guys who prey on shoppers.... we look the part of old and vulnerable.

Back in the old days..... cops really did check the back doors (actually tried opening them) of all the local businesses EVERY night. And the reason they did that? Because there were no intrusion alarms installed (to speak of).... and that was how the bad guys often got in. No pry bars of fancy "cat burglar" tricks. They just looked for a door someone forgot to lock.

And... that is pretty much where were at with cyber crime now-a-days too. Our once private lives are being collected, inspected, and collated by governments both our own and foreign. And shady criminals from near and far, try to scam us out of spare change.... and/or our lifesavings. Except of the Internet connection..... nothing has changed since the 1950's.
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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #85 on: May 19, 2017, 12:42:12 PM »

Here's a scary picture of the IOT future...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/05/16/the-next-ransomware-hack-will-be-worse-than-the-current-one/

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Everything is becoming a computer. Your microwave is a computer that makes things hot. Your refrigerator is a computer that keeps things cold. Your car and television, the traffic lights and signals in your city and our national power grid are all computers. This is the much-hyped Internet of Things (IoT). It’s coming, and it’s coming faster than you might think. And as these devices connect to the Internet, they become vulnerable to ransomware and other computer threats.
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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #86 on: May 19, 2017, 10:45:56 PM »

Here's a scary picture of the IOT future... .....

For most people.... all versions of the future are scary.

Maybe.... because in the entire history of mankind... no one has ever been to the future. The future remains the one place that we can only imagine in our minds. And for whatever reason the design of our minds tend to cause them to imagine the future (and dark places) to be scary places full of hidden dangers.

So the one thing that has remained the same through all of recorded history: To own the joy which is ours for the taking... we must have faith... and fear not.

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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #87 on: May 20, 2017, 06:47:07 AM »

And for whatever reason the design of our minds tend to cause them to imagine the future (and dark places) to be scary places full of hidden dangers.

In the case of IoT, future dangers are not hidden but glaringly obvious. Anyway, here's yet another scaredy cat...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/opinion/what-happens-when-your-car-gets-hacked.html?ref=opinion

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I'm no Luddite - I tend to surf the bleeding edge of technology - but I do think it important to be aware of the security issues that these new technologies present and to point to 'best practice' methods.
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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #88 on: May 20, 2017, 09:15:45 PM »

...... Anyway, here's yet another scaredy cat... What happens when your car gets hacked?

Yeah.... as of today.... not even ONE car (in the wild) has ever been hacked. Not one, not even once. Yet... nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled.

That means... in the time it took me to reply to this post (about 3 minutes)... 6 people died in old-fashion (no hacking involved) car accidents. I don't mean to poke fun at those who concern themselves with Internet insecurities. I am merely pointing out the need to find relative acceptance of the dangers.

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Re: Proposed standards for Internet of Things
« Reply #89 on: May 21, 2017, 10:21:51 AM »


Yeah.... as of today.... not even ONE car (in the wild) has ever been hacked. Not one, not even once.

Make your own decision:

https://nworeport.me/2017/03/09/wikileaks-journalist-investigating-cia-assassinated-in-hacked-car-crash/

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