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WiFi module
dhouston:
--- Quote from: dave w on August 26, 2014, 05:38:57 PM ---I think this device might revitalize X10. Hopefully there is some progress taking place.
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I hope you are right about the revitalization but, at this point, I would not recommend X10 to anyone who doesn't already have it. Long range, direct control via WiFi is certain to be less problematic than X10's 40 year old PLC.
Walt2:
There is the European Marmitek TIP10RF. It does Ethernet to X10 RF. Basically, plugging into your WiFi router on a wired Ethernet jack found on most of them. If you can manage Port Forwarding, it can allow control from anywhere from your smartphone. They offer Android and iPhone apps for it.
Though, I am sure it complies with the European X10 specs. We here in the US would need someone to make one that complies with US X10 specs.
dhouston:
In the past, I was able to help some Europeans convert RF devices from 310MHz to 433.92MHz so they could buy cheaper US devices and modify them for European use. I was also able to convert the European temperature monitor/thermostat to use here. In these cases, all that was needed was to replace the RF transmitter module.
That's not likely to work here as, IIRC, both X10 and WiFi frequencies are different for Europe.
There are more and more companies introducing comprehensive systems (Harmony just did so.) that work with a multitude of vendors. The one vendor missing from all is X10.
* http://www.technewsworld.com/story/81064.html?google_editors_picks=true
I'm a quadriplegic (classified by the VA as catastrophically disabled) and am more and more finding the need to move beyond X10 to something more integrated and reliable. I am leaning towards Belkin's WeMo as I've extensive experience with their WiFi gear and figure they will get things right, eventually. And, there are no range issues with any of my multiple WiFi devices.
The holdup is both expense (WeMo devices are rather costly) and the lack of remote control (beyond phones/tablets). I now have an X10 RF remote (or more) in each room and can control all of my X10 devices (much more limited these days) with them. I also have a minitimer that turns my lights on in the morning and evening. I sure do not want or need both X10 remotes and WiFi-capable tablets in multiple locations.
Unless the new X10 gets their heads out of their *sses and addresses the need to integrate with newer WiFi based systems, methinks they won't last long. Selling replacement modules to the oldtimers here won't cut it long range.
dave w:
--- Quote from: dhouston on September 19, 2014, 04:01:10 PM ---Unless the new X10 gets their heads out of their *sses and addresses the need to integrate with newer WiFi based systems, methinks they won't last long. Selling replacement modules to the oldtimers here won't cut it long range.
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Yeah, Dave, I tend to agree. I go to Verizon store or Best Buy and I see Phillips, Belkin, etc. displays. The only folks who know anything about X10 are the current users from old. Even "Plug-N-Power" doesn't even ring a bell anymore.
I wish "new" X10 success, but they have a steep slope to climb. Maybe we could get Jack Ma interested.
Walt2:
--- Quote from: dhouston on September 19, 2014, 04:01:10 PM ---I'm a quadriplegic (classified by the VA as catastrophically disabled) and am more and more finding the need to move beyond X10 to something more integrated and reliable. I am leaning towards Belkin's WeMo as I've extensive experience with their WiFi gear and figure they will get things right, eventually. And, there are no range issues with any of my multiple WiFi devices.
The holdup is both expense (WeMo devices are rather costly) and the lack of remote control (beyond phones/tablets). I now have an X10 RF remote (or more) in each room and can control all of my X10 devices (much more limited theses days) with them. I also have a minitimer that turns my lights on in the morning and evening. I sure do not want or need both X10 remotes and WiFi-capable tablets in multiple locations.
Unless the new X10 gets their heads out of their *sses and addresses the need to integrate with newer WiFi based systems, methinks they won't last long. Selling replacement modules to the oldtimers here won't cut it long range.
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I thought the Belkin's WeMo's were pretty interesting. Unfortunately, the number of different kinds of modules is rather limited, and I don't see that changing.
Plus, I own a Belkin product, and find they like to abandon/drop products without notice. That includes removing/deleting the product's sections from their support forums (which precludes peer to peer support too). That doesn't give me much confidence to start to invest in their WeMo's.
What I would like to see, from what ever is next in home automation, is a bridge. Something that would allow support for both X10 and what-ever-that's-new simultaneously. So, that my existing X10 modules would continue to work, until I ultimately get to replace them, one by one.
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