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Would you use complicated macros like those available in AHP?

Yes
- 18 (94.7%)
No simple scenes are all I require.
- 0 (0%)
Maybe in the future
- 1 (5.3%)

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Please expand the Scenes
« on: January 16, 2018, 07:26:24 PM »

Currently the scenes option in the x10WIFI app are simple macros (maybe to simple for most of use experienced AHP users)
Most of us want to ditch running a PC 24/7 the WM100 has the potential for this.
The available memory is apparently there so lets use it. ;)
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2018, 10:17:32 PM »

Currently the scenes option in the x10WIFI app are simple macros (maybe to simple for most of use experienced AHP users)

I've found my Wink and MyQ Garage along with the iPhone stuff.... to be really simplified. The CM15A was/is a real spoiler.... especially with AHP and a PC.   
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2018, 12:17:18 PM »

There are so many possibilities for improving (expanding) Scenes I think this needs to be broken down so things can slowly get added other wise this wish would always stay unfulfilled.
 
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2018, 03:12:30 PM »

There are so many possibilities for improving (expanding) Scenes I think this needs to be broken down so things can slowly get added other wise this wish would always stay unfulfilled.

Agreed.  Improved scenes would probably be at least 4 of the top 5  items on my wish list. ;)  My suggestion is that we use this thread to brainstorm ideas and then break the top ones out into separate threads.
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2018, 03:21:16 PM »

There are so many possibilities for improving (expanding) Scenes I think this needs to be broken down so things can slowly get added other wise this wish would always stay unfulfilled.

Agreed.  Improved scenes would probably be at least 4 of the top 5  items on my wish list. ;)  My suggestion is that we use this thread to brainstorm ideas and then break the top ones out into separate threads.
I like that idea  :)%
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2018, 04:15:57 PM »

If a "listener" (the unit/app already has X10 sensing/detection) was added so we can create X10 generated "triggers" we'd be halfway towards creating macros (short of ITTT and/or conditions).

Plus... don't forget... the Alexa also offers a tiny bit of programing. [Amazons settings are] NOTHING... compared to what AHP users are accustomed to. But I expect the code writers for Amazon to get imaginative as the user base grows.
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2018, 04:41:05 PM »

The unit does see All x10 PLC this was one thing early versions didn't and thus required a hardware rebuild. That was require for it to be a polite transciever.
The question realy is how much onboard memory this truely has.
I asked for specs but not recieved them yet from the manufacture.
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2018, 04:51:26 PM »

......The question realy is how much onboard memory this truely has.
I asked for specs but not recieved them yet from the manufacture.

The AHP only has.. what... 256kb of memory? How much memory does it really need.... and memory is dirt cheap now-a-days.
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2018, 05:13:56 PM »

I'm not sure what this has or how it is designated.
We may only be using 1/3 of what is actualy in it.
A flash able ram may have required a good bit set aside for use. The Cm15 didn't have that.
We'll know more once( if ) I get a full specs report from the manufacture. ;)
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2018, 01:21:38 PM »

I had put forth the option for a web requests to be added to a scene when in testing.
Which like many of my suggestions failed to materialize  :( That doesn't mean they were rejected (at least I hope not) just the push was on to get a release done.

I figured if we knew the protocol expected by the other device geting the web request it would put this Hub ahead of many others.
One example of a web request would be to turn an IP camera to a specific location and or take a snapshot. (Airsights will do this from a web request)
We might even be able to trigger things on other hubs. ::) :'
The trick would be finding out what was expected in a web request but users could post their successful web request strings.


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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2018, 01:52:35 PM »

I think the important thing is that I downloaded the app, plugged it in, and it WORKED!  And it transmits a much stronger signal than prior X10 controllers.  Additional features can evolve over time, just like they did with some of my XTB products.

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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2018, 02:55:00 PM »

And it transmits a much stronger signal than prior X10 controllers.

I think that's key - it will go a long way to rebut long time criticism of the X10 PLC system. If they release the protocol and provide pass-through and feedback functions, the memory and programming issues are easily solved with things like...
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Touchscreen-Quad-core-Processor-Bluetooth/dp/B01MAU8TS2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1516484009&sr=8-5&keywords=10+inch+windows+tablet
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2018, 02:59:48 PM »

I agree, I don't and nor should anyone else expect any suggestions put forth will happen over night.
This device is rock solid!
Many suggestions here may not get added to this unit they may result in a Pro version creation instead.
There are key suggestion put forth in this section that will solve many users demands as dhouston stated.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2018, 04:03:37 PM »


This device is rock solid!
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And don't forget... once this is Alexa controlled there are simple little macro-like controls built into the Amazon app. Mixing and matching products and control abilities is a technology multiplier.

I went through my X10 macros today... deleted some, edited some other things. Pulled the laptop off-line. Still have a CM15A plugged into the outlet (with all remaining macros save to the CM15A). I still have some timers I want to convert to the WM100. I am making progress.
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Re: Please expand the Scenes
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2018, 09:09:58 AM »

There are so many possibilities for improving (expanding) Scenes I think this needs to be broken down so things can slowly get added other wise this wish would always stay unfulfilled.

Agreed.  Improved scenes would probably be at least 4 of the top 5  items on my wish list. ;)  My suggestion is that we use this thread to brainstorm ideas and then break the top ones out into separate threads.
I like that idea  :)%

Also, can we use standard, clear questions for the polls?  My suggestion is to use the following:
  • Very Important (I want it ASAP)
  • Useful (I will want it one day)
  • Neutral (I might use it)
  • Not very useful (I probably won't use it)
  • Unnecessary (I would never use it)

By using the same questions, it will be easier to compare the results.  Also by making the questions clear, the results will be more consistent.  People are also accustomed to ranking priorities.
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