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Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« on: January 22, 2018, 03:14:09 PM »

Does the CM100 work with phones/tablets that are outside your home, or is it limited to only supporting phones/tablets directly connected to the same local WiFi network?

I am thinking along the lines of does it set up something like Port Forwarding, or uPnP, thru my home's router?
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 03:18:46 PM »

This does work outside your home network no port forwarding is required.
At least in my tests from both in the city and my off grid place.
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 03:23:23 PM »

That is good news.     :) 

I have some software/hardware which has a limit of working only on the local WiFi network.    While that is fine for my home-bound tablets, my smartphone is usually running on LTE data, and not WiFi, even when at home which means it connects from outside my local network.
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 03:27:55 PM »

The owner wasn't interested in creating another fancy remote which this would have been with only local control.
The Authinx owner deserves lots of praise for staying on the manufacture to get a stable solid device.
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 03:31:05 PM »

On my Android phone at least, the app turns WiFi back on and tries to reconnect to my home network) when I open it up. I was trying to test the operation over 4G - and it basically wasn't letting me. I had to leave the house, and move far enough out of my WiFi range (so the phone couldn't reconnect to my home WiFi) to test it that way.
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 03:39:51 PM »

I believe that is by design to save on data usage.
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 02:07:34 PM »

Just to clear this up.
I have taken this app on my LG6 phone and connected to my home hub from my business through wifi  and also on the road with data.
 No issues. Quick connection. I am confused on how it did that without my intervention through my router. I will look into that when i have chance but so far it make me  just applaud all involved in creating a trully exciting product to keep us playing with. x10. Again.  >!
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2018, 05:02:08 PM »

Just to clear this up.
I have taken this app on my LG6 phone and connected to my home hub from my business through wifi  and also on the road with data.
 No issues. Quick connection. I am confused on how it did that without my intervention through my router. I will look into that when i have chance but so far it make me  just applaud all involved in creating a trully exciting product to keep us playing with. x10. Again.  >!
I'm pretty sure that the WM100 makes a connection out through the router to one of the Authinx (X10) servers, and that's how it connects back in when you're not on the same network.
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2018, 09:27:41 AM »

I believe that is by design to save on data usage.

  I tested controlling remotely through other WiFi networks, from a drugstore and from my dentist, and it works.
  I always connect via a VPN when I am not at home.
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2018, 03:24:24 AM »

According to Noam, the VM100 goes through Autnix server? If this is the case, it could present issues down the road if said server crashes. Isn't this what happened to the old X10 when they folded and their servers went off line?
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2018, 04:16:31 AM »

I don't believe the WM100 connects to an Authinx server.
I believe instead it uses P2P, simular to how many IP cameras connect to their apps , however I can attempt to find out for sure.
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2018, 04:23:36 AM »

Thank you
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2018, 10:02:56 AM »

I don't believe the WM100 connects to an Authinx server.
I believe instead it uses P2P, simular to how many IP cameras connect to their apps , however I can attempt to find out for sure.
Would that create a problem if your home IP changes (as it could, in theory, if your router reboots, etc)?
I'm pretty sure it would need some sort of authentication password to modify my router's firewall rules to make a direct connection inbound - and I certainly never gave it anything of the sort.
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2018, 10:39:49 AM »

I never setup any port forwarding rules for it nor my IP Cameras either, yet I can connect to my cameras from any  IP camera app using just the UID and password.  ::) :'
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Re: Work from Phones/Tablets outside your home?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2018, 02:15:26 PM »

... Would that create a problem if your home IP changes (as it could, in theory, if your router reboots, etc)?
I'm pretty sure it would need some sort of authentication password to modify my router's firewall rules to make a direct connection inbound - and I certainly never gave it anything of the sort.

I think you (we) did. Only instead of manually typing everything out.... we scanned a QR code thingy on the devices back... then shared the same logon password that our phone/tablet uses. If your phone can connect... everything else should as well.
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