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Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« on: February 08, 2018, 09:10:08 AM »

I get asked this many time and judging from recent emails so does Authinx. B:(
AHP was developed over several years so to expect the X10 WIFI app to replace it  right out of the box is a high expectation. I do believe some day the app will be able to replace AHP!

As for the WM100 replacing the CM15 that ain't going to happen :(
The lack of RF support and the device limitation make this impossible with out a hardware rebuild.

I like to think of the WM100 a replacement for the CM11 but even that is a stretch.
Possibly in the future we'll see a WM100 PRO with RF and that may replace the CM15 ::) :'

For several this WM100 and app make a nice addition to our Home Automation setups.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2018, 10:21:58 AM »

... I do believe some day the app will be able to replace AHP!

As for the WM100 replacing the CM15 that ain't going to happen :(

With all due respect, I don't think the app will ever be able to replace AHP.
As long as you have a CM15A, you'll need AHP to program it (it *can* be controlled in real-time using other software, but that still needs a computer connected to it 24/7).
Since Authinx doesn't have the source code for AHP, or the protocol information to program the CM15A, I think that's pretty much a dead end - unfortunately.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2018, 11:35:29 AM »

Since Authinx doesn't have the source code for AHP, or the protocol information to program the CM15A, I think that's pretty much a dead end - unfortunately.
They could always create new firmware/software. While it might not be compatible with AHP that's really not necessary.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2018, 03:39:52 PM »

IMHO... the WM100 is a typical HUB. Like most (if not all) the other HA HUBS out there. It acts, looks, and functions like a HUB. Maybe the WM100 wasn't designed to replace anything.... but instead it is to be something that is an expectation for a HA brand.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2018, 06:33:34 PM »

For me it already has, I unplugged my CM15A last week and I'm not looking back. I know that for many it may not be enough but for me it is good enough. I'm very happy to have a supported product again.

I do miss macros and hope they add timers to scenes.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2018, 03:02:02 AM »

For me it already has, I unplugged my CM15A last week and I'm not looking back. I know that for many it may not be enough but for me it is good enough. I'm very happy to have a supported product again.

You know... I'd bet MOST X10 users will be happy with the abilities of the WM100.... particularly when they can pair it to a digital assistance like Alexa. And... Alexa expands your routines too!

And for those of us who really just want MORE. Like myself.... automation is a hobby of sorts... so more is all part of the interest. There is still usable CM15A tech available. And even compatible Homeseer devices/software. 
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2018, 12:18:12 PM »


With all due respect, I don't think the app will ever be able to replace AHP.
As long as you have a CM15A, you'll need AHP to program it
I guesss replace was the wrong word it most likely will never beable to upload to the cm15.
But give the memory capablilites of the wm100 it has the possibilities of doing more then AHP (timer and macro wise) once RF is added, the wm100 (pro) ::) :' should be able to out perform the CM15.
Maybe it is wishful thinking on my part ::) :'
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2018, 03:25:26 PM »

But give the memory capablilites of the wm100 it has the possibilities of doing more then AHP (timer and macro wise) once RF is added, the wm100 (pro) ::) :' should be able to out perform the CM15.

Compare the ARM Cortex MCU of the WM100 with the ARM Cortex MCU of the RPi3 and then dream of the possibilities.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2018, 03:56:16 PM »

Compare the ARM Cortex MCU of the WM100 with the ARM Cortex MCU of the RPi3 and then dream of the possibilities.

Yes.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2018, 06:01:32 PM »

HI all, new here and just installed my WM100. Currently using it only for testing control of several lights using the phone like a palmpad. Still running the house off the CM15 and probably will for the foreseeable future, but with my limited setup, the WM100 could almost take over if it is as reliable as the CAM15 with AHP has been.

For the record, been using X10 since the late 70's with Radio Shack 'Plug n' Play modules (still have some!)
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