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Author Topic: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?  (Read 2795 times)

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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2018, 08:19:55 AM »

The first time I got involved with X10 was in 87 and have had it in my houses since.
I was working on a project called Transtext with BS, Johnson Controls and GA Power.
Got lots of free gear.
At one time almost every light, WH, AC's, Pumps as much as i could connect was on it.
I probably had every controller and module made since then.
For me the 1132CU was the best of the controllers that came out.
I think I have been through 5 of them and still have 2. 1 that was in the box new since they DA them.
I tried insteon (actually was one of there first dealers) and it just was a PIA and the hardware was crap.
Now all I have is my exterior lights, WH, wall fountain and Pool pump on the WM100 using timers.

I still think its a great technology if you can get rid of the noise (which I did with Jeff's help).
Its not bullet proof but could have been with the introduction of the extended codes and some good software.
My palmpads don't work anymore so I use my phone when necessary.
Although once again the app may show something on or off but its not.
I modified most of the appliance modules i had snipping the diode to stop the current sensing and pigtailed them to use in my exterior control.
I still have several leviton (208/240V) 6330 modules, a bunch of interfaces including a CP290.
Smarthome for me is 5 remotes on the couch!

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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2018, 09:50:03 AM »

Regular timers as well as Dusk/Dawn ones don't get affected by a server being down.

As long as you don't have any sort of power blip - because that would reset the clock in your device, and it will be wrong until you *actively* connect to it with a device (which requires the server to be up), and re-sync the time. If you're in a different time zone when you do that, your timers are messed up. That's a huge design flaw, in my opinion.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2018, 10:26:09 AM »

Regular timers as well as Dusk/Dawn ones don't get affected by a server being down.

As long as you don't have any sort of power blip - because that would reset the clock in your device, and it will be wrong until you *actively* connect to it with a device (which requires the server to be up), and re-sync the time. If you're in a different time zone when you do that, your timers are messed up. That's a huge design flaw, in my opinion.
So true. I keep forgetting (being at the off grid place) about power outages.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2018, 10:14:27 AM »

Regular timers as well as Dusk/Dawn ones don't get affected by a server being down.

As long as you don't have any sort of power blip - because that would reset the clock in your device, and it will be wrong until you *actively* connect to it with a device (which requires the server to be up), and re-sync the time. If you're in a different time zone when you do that, your timers are messed up. That's a huge design flaw, in my opinion.
So true. I keep forgetting (being at the off grid place) about power outages.
I just can't believe the designers completely ignored that major design requirement. Did they think the CM15A's batteries were just for show?
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2018, 10:16:55 AM »

What about the CM11 or 12 ?

Does the battery in that keep clock time when a power failure occurs ?
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2018, 09:29:35 AM »

What about the CM11 or 12 ?

Does the battery in that keep clock time when a power failure occurs ?
Yes
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2018, 10:20:51 AM »

Thanks, Iíll keep that, use heyu for uploading schedules and Ebay the CM15.   Though it is handy as a power line transceiver
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2018, 10:31:40 AM »

According to the protocol document.
When it see AC applied it sends a request to the PC for the correct time. I don't how accurate it is on battery. It does not have a clock chip. So it must be a function of the controller chip.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2018, 10:43:08 AM »

According to the protocol document.
When it see AC applied it sends a request to the PC for the correct time. I don't how accurate it is on battery. It does not have a clock chip. So it must be a function of the controller chip.
It's not very accurate. Plus, you cannot send/receive commands before responding to the request.
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Re: Will the X10 WIFI app and WM100 replace AHP and the CM15?
« Reply #54 on: September 22, 2018, 08:11:56 AM »

Well
Can you depend on the WM100?
NO NO NO NO.
What a piece of crap.
All of a sudden out of the blue my dusk lights come on 2+ hours
before dusk.
Get my phone and go to app.
Cannot connect to HUB.
So I proceed to reconnect to the HUB.
Follow the steps and no connection.
Then connect. Yeah!
Ok lets sync with HUB.
INFO O - devices, rooms, timers, scenes, dusk/dawn timers.
Cancel
Go back to devices.
Wait everything is still there under each device.
NOW WHAT?
Do I throw this piece of crap in that canal behind the house?
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