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SR227 vs Am486
« on: April 04, 2018, 10:07:19 PM »

Question:

Does the switched outlet have different guts than the Appliance module?

I seem to have toasted one on a 1500watt space heater.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2018, 11:49:07 PM »

I burned a socket rocket like that.  I haven't had an issue with my SR227 or OutletLinc modules.  I don't have high draw devices plugged in to mine.  The OutletLinc modules control holiday lights which burned up the socket rocket.  I guess I can say one is better than the other, but that doesn't exactly help with your question.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2018, 11:58:00 PM »

I've never had to take apart any of my wall outlets (yet).  They do have the similar click of the AM486 relay.  The SR227's have one each switched and unswitched outlets.  Don't know if their fork contacts are thicker. 
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2018, 01:44:53 AM »

.....  a 1500watt space heater.

An electric space heater? Isn't usually a loose fix (plug into socket) that burns up the receptacle? I always thought it was the slight arc (caused by looseness) that generated the heat. Maybe I was given bad info.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2018, 03:44:05 AM »

I would suspect a poor connection and getting worse as it heated up.
The outlet contact may have been slightly loose, getting dirty or the plugs pins where dirty.
From your photo. It looks like it is the wider Neutral Pin. That is soldered to the PC Board near the output and a insulated wire from the Input Pins Neutral Pad to the output Neutral Pad.

Both the Appliance Module and SR227 are rated for 15 amps Resistive loads {1800 Watts}.

The outlets maybe a different construction between them. I will see if I can find an internal photo of the SR227 and Appliance Modules. To see if anything pops out.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2018, 07:04:41 AM »

For full disclose, it was a Stanley module. Not sure of the age, but I've had it for quite awhile. It's on its way to the landfill at this moment.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2018, 02:43:04 PM »

I have a AM466 Date Code 09K48.
Had a bad solder connection on one of the outlet pins. If it was handling close to the fifteen amp rating. I could see it overheating.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2018, 03:57:43 PM »

I woild have opened it up to see if there was an obvious cause, but since it's gone...  I agree with others that looks like a lose connection.  If it were an internal fault, I'd expect the rest of the case to be more damaged.  The damage is centered on the neutral pin and the black wire is not damaged.  The only other thing I could think of is bad routing and faulty insulation causing an arc from the hot wire to the neutral pin.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2018, 02:25:36 AM »

It's on its way to the landfill at this moment.
Since X10 Authinx is making modules this is acceptable. However if Authinx were not around, I would say strip out the PC board an put it in your Halloween pipe organ. This is one of those "love ya man" comments.  rofl
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2018, 04:56:05 AM »

If it were a BSR, I would have. I still have more Stanley and Plug N' Power than X10. I didn't even know about the X10 sales site till I bought my cm15.
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2018, 08:18:07 PM »

If it were a BSR, I would have. I still have more Stanley and Plug N' Power than X10. I didn't even know about the X10 sales site till I bought my cm15.
Yeah, I think most of mine are P&P also. Somewhere I did buy 12 "First Alert" lamp modules for 3 bucks apiece. Also have a weird "Nu-Tone" 16 house code transceiver, and 16 button "Palm Pad. Don't think old X10 made many of them.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2018, 10:27:52 PM »

I have some of the Black&Decker Freewire modules. Made by X10WTI.
The FWODLM was unique. Made for outdoor use. Water resistant, in the center of a two foot extension cord, clunked like an appliance module and no dials programmed like a Socket Rocket.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2018, 11:19:14 PM »

Joining in on the nostalgia theme, in addition to those mentioned I have a Westclox appliance module with only a Housecode wheel. The Unit code is fixed at 13. They were originally included as part of an alarm clock that would turn on the coffeemaker when the alarm sounded and then the modules were sold as surplus.  I also have some the original BSR 16 unit controllers with Ultrasonic remotes that use 9 volt batteries. Although I don't use them anymore, they all work. I also had various modules branded IBM, Leviton, and GE.  I had a couple of the NuTone 16 button remotes and remember they came with wall mount brackets.
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2018, 01:05:17 AM »

I have a Westclox appliance module with only a Housecode wheel. The Unit code is fixed at 13. They were originally included as part of an alarm clock that would turn on the coffeemaker when the alarm sounded and then the modules were sold as surplus.  I also have some the original BSR 16 unit controllers with Ultrasonic remotes
Wow! The Westclox was one I have never seen. Like the Nu-Tone, I don't think old X10 made many. Too bad there is no "X10 museum" because that should be an exhibit. My first BSR "System X10" starter kit from Sears had the ultra sonic remote also. 1979 or 1980?  That got me hooked.   
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Re: SR227 vs Am486
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2018, 01:08:48 AM »

Anyone remember the dog whistle/squeaky toy remote? Think I still have it somewhere.
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