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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2018, 07:02:37 PM »

Well with the Pi Zero W. You will have to solder the GPIO connector on to it. To use the RTC module.
Not if you get the board with the  GPIO pins already soldered on. ;)
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2018, 07:23:54 PM »

All but one of the sellers I have seen had only the Pi Zero W with no connector.
Though I did see a few of the starter kits with a connector the user got to solder on themselves.
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2018, 07:57:32 PM »

The sellers I've seen that have the pre soldered version selling for double so not worth it.
In any case I feel the RTC isn't needed the better option would be a UPS as I'd be more worried about a power blip corrupting the SD card.
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2018, 08:29:50 PM »

While MicroCenter won't sell the $5 PiZW on line, they will sell the PiZWH (H is for header) on line for $13.99 + 5.99 shipping. You can add a 16gig micro sd card for just $3.99 (their cards are good). So a total of $24 for the PiZWH, 16g card and shipping. https://goo.gl/RczJQg  +  https://goo.gl/9Xd9sx
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2018, 09:04:35 PM »

Tuicemen, this x10 PI hub is a great idea! When do you think the sd card image will be available?
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2018, 09:18:49 PM »

The image has been solid and capable of sending and receiving  X10 since beta 2.
 
The SD card image is currently in RC 2 build and we are currently working on an agreeable initial X10 setup demo and layout.
Once I have that from testers I'll do a final RC build and a release build.

A  release build will be prior to Christmas of this year regardless of testers input. ::) :'
If you can't wait you can always join the test group and have a say in the direction we take. Just PM me and say you want in! ;)
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2018, 09:39:20 PM »

What do I need for hardware:

Pi zero (will I need the header?)
Power supply
CM19a
16gb micro sd card
Anything else?
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2018, 10:21:26 PM »

What do I need for hardware:

Pi zero (will I need the header?)
Power supply
CM19a
16gb micro sd card
Anything else?

You'll want the Pi Zero W (W is for WiFi) - no header needed.
In addition to the rest of your list you'll only need an OTG adapter (male micros USB to female USB to plug in the CM)
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2018, 07:09:23 AM »

What do I need for hardware:

Pi zero (will I need the header?)
Power supply
CM19a
16gb micro sd card
Anything else?
Although the latest HomeGenie Build will work with a Cm19 it isn't supported as yet on the Pix10Hub
Only the cm11 and cm15 are currently supported though anything that uses the same protocol as the Cm11 should work they've not been tested.
I'm hopeful the CM19 holds up in tests and I can move to the mono version the Cm19 uses before he Christmas release.
I may run another test group special for testing the CM19 as currently there are only two of us test running it.
You may want a mini to regular HDMI adaptor but that is optional
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2018, 08:04:07 AM »

What adapter do I need to interface the cm11 with Pi zero?. Also do I need a Pi specific USB OTG adapter for the cm15?
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2018, 08:18:55 AM »

What adapter do I need to interface the cm11 with Pi zero?. Also do I need a Pi specific USB OTG adapter for the cm15?
I've no Cm11 so others will have to answer that.
But I suspect you would need a serial to USB adaptor then a usb to micro like required for the Cm15 or cm19
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-Male-to-USB-Female-OTG-Adapter-Converter-For-LG-G4-Samsung-S6-S7-Edge/332533914121?hash=item4d6c90da09:m:mTFbcauLtL3WCZ02WOazvFg:rk:15:pf:0
Most computer shops have these as well some dollar stores carry them.
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2018, 10:02:55 AM »

On the CM15A.
I found a short cable {~1' long} that has a USB B connector to connect to the CM15A and a 90 degree Left Angle OTG micro USB connector on the other end for the Pi Zero W.
Also came in a right 90 degree version but that would have the cable in front of the power jack.

When it gets here. I can have the Pi Zero W in a Official Raspberry Zero case right next to the CM15A.

For now I am using one of the adapters and the original CM15A USB Cable.

I think many may stick to the original CM15A cable and adapter. So it does not have to be a close to the PI Zero W.
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2018, 10:07:12 AM »

What adapter do I need to interface the cm11 with Pi zero?. Also do I need a Pi specific USB OTG adapter for the cm15?
I've no Cm11 so others will have to answer that.
But I suspect you would need a serial to USB adaptor then a usb to micro like required for the Cm15 or cm19
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-Male-to-USB-Female-OTG-Adapter-Converter-For-LG-G4-Samsung-S6-S7-Edge/332533914121?hash=item4d6c90da09:m:mTFbcauLtL3WCZ02WOazvFg:rk:15:pf:0
Most computer shops have these as well some dollar stores carry them.
If HG supports the CM11A on the Pi Zero W, it will likely use pins on the HEADER for the serial interface. The HG author will have to supply the details.
I'm not really familiar with USB-OTG but my WAG is that it can control the CM15A via the adapter and a standard USB cable for the CM15A.
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2018, 10:13:29 AM »

On the CM15A.
I found a short cable {~1' long} that has a USB B connector to connect to the CM15A and a 90 degree Left Angle OTG micro USB connector on the other end for the Pi Zero W.
Also came in a right 90 degree version but that would have the cable in front of the power jack..
I use a 6 inch USB A to USB B cable for my connection to the cm15 along with a OTG adaptor.
 I was unable to find a short cable with the OTG to USB B ends. Do you have a link or was it found at a local computer shop.

The proximity of the Pi to the CM15 shouldn't cause a issue as my Pi is directly inside the CM15 case.
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Re: Your thoughts on a X10 PI Hub
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2018, 10:14:57 AM »

Thanks all for the info! I am still confused a bit. In searching the web for OTG USB adapters they seem to be specific to particular phones etc. Can the one for the Rpi be any OTG USB or does it need to be specific to the Pi zero?
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