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Author Topic: This product is ALL HYPE  (Read 7819 times)

suckered

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This product is ALL HYPE
« on: July 08, 2006, 12:22:56 PM »

Great advertising.  Lousy product.  Purchased AHP and a couple of WS12A dimmer switches, a couple of lamp modules, and an RF style (3 unit) switch.  I would say the AHP module stuck to the programmed schedule the first couple days.  After that, lights may or may not go on.  Or, go on at non-scheduled times.  The RF switch will only work if it's 10 feet from the control module (what range!).  The WS12A dimmer switch started going on whenever it wanted, even after I disconnected the control module and even with no bothersome appliances going (e.g. washer, dryer).  I finally decided to re-install my original (basic) switch, and in removing the WS12A I discovered that it was almost too hot to touch!  Needless to say I was glad I was removing this thing before something really serious happened.  What a waste of money!
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Re: This product is ALL HYPE
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2006, 06:48:38 PM »

 :'(   I am with you pal. I purchased over $400.00 worth and its a crap shoot on what will and what will not work.
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Re: WS12A switch
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2006, 10:28:06 PM »

...and in removing the WS12A I discovered that it was almost too hot to touch!...
While AHP & X10 have some challenges, a WS12A switch under normal use should never be that hot. You may of had a defective switch.
BTW... What where you switching with it? (It's recommended for incandescent lights only 60-300 watts.)
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Re: This product is ALL HYPE
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2006, 02:07:34 AM »

:'(   I am with you pal. I purchased over $400.00 worth and its a crap shoot on what will and what will not work.

X-10 came onto the scene ~30 years ago. Unfortunately, in the years since then, *MANY* new (and unexpected!) electronic devices came onto the market that INTERFERE with X-10.  :o

Sadly, X-10 doesn't make this "critical information" public in their ads. :(

CLICK on my SIG LINK and spend some time reading - you'll learn how to get it all working... :)
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Re: WS12A switch
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2006, 12:40:09 PM »

...and in removing the WS12A I discovered that it was almost too hot to touch!...
While AHP & X10 have some challenges, a WS12A switch under normal use should never be that hot. You may of had a defective switch.
BTW... What where you switching with it? (It's recommended for incandescent lights only 60-300 watts.)


Just my front porch lights.  All incandescent and well below 300 watts.
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Re: This product is ALL HYPE
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2006, 01:03:18 PM »

Interesting.....since the WS12A uses a neutral, it usually works better than the WS467.

Taketheactive is absolutely right. Since X10 hit the streets 30 years ago, a lot of things have come along (mainly switching power supplies) that throw monkey wrenches in the works.

It is not "a crap shoot"  but it is not "Plug -N-Play" either. You have to work at it a little, especially if you jump in in a big way.

You describe classic symptoms of noise and coupling problems. They are solveable, but at some additional cost and effort.

Check out "taketheactive" link, or search "noise" , "coupling" "filters" "repeaters" etc in this forum.
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Re: This product is ALL HYPE
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2006, 01:04:26 PM »

I've seen conflicting specs for the WS12A. I read one place that it was rated for use between 60 to 300W. Most specs I'm finding now say it is rated for 500W.
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Re: This product is ALL HYPE
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2006, 01:51:24 PM »

Wall switches will get warm and this is normal. A metal wall switch cover will act as a heat sink to dissapate some of the heat.
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