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 91 
 on: February 20, 2024, 08:28:20 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by bkenobi
It depends on what you mean by "purely X10".  If you mean that the system can only have components that operate via X10 PLC/RF, then I would agree because that would be pretty much timers and very basic things triggered by motion sensors.  I personally don't have a need for things like Alexa, but there are a lot of options in-between that may or not meet what you mean.  Like, I use a RPi connected to my CM15A to run the events/timers/triggers/etc because I find Active Home lacking.  I do have a couple non-X10 devices (primarily a hardwired motion sensor) but the core of my system is X10.

To be fair though, many of the things I used to use X10 for have been replaced by lights with motion sensors.  If X10 had updated the PR511 to be compatible with LED (and not look so ugly) I might not have switched.  I'm don't have the biggest system so I'm not the right person to define the rules.   8)

 92 
 on: February 20, 2024, 08:10:10 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by brobin
Same here. Whenever I'd automate something new my wife would roll her eyes and then come to rely on it & complain when it doesn't work.  Over the last 40 years she's changed to asking if I can automate this or that and loves it - particularly Alexa.

 93 
 on: February 20, 2024, 06:27:34 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by SkipWX10
I have been using X10 for as long as it's been around I think. Amazingly enough, I'm still using the original Radio Shack 'Plug-n-Play lamp modules I first got. They are in daily use with my second CM15a to turn my lights on and off every day.

Funny thing, when I met my wife and we first moved in together, I went around plugging in modules and installing switches in our apartment...she was like 'what is all this crap?' but now, she has the controller by her side of the bed and also is the biggest fan of Alexa integration with the Smartenit, which she also had some kind of snarky remark about when I was setting it up.

It's hard not to appreciate never coming home to dark house or having to turn on lights when it gets dark...

 94 
 on: February 20, 2024, 06:15:06 PM 
Started by Bugman1400 - Last post by glacier991
Have you had any expressed interest if I might ask?

 95 
 on: February 20, 2024, 06:07:34 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by brobin
I, for one, welcome it as I use a combination of X-10 and other things not all of which involve X10.  I use my Stargate controller for several non-X10 purposes.

 96 
 on: February 20, 2024, 05:56:29 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by glacier991
I think that X10 still has a place in HA, though personally not as a purely (100%) X10 system.

Along the way as we encounter HA issues, many of the HA geeks on this board have devised solutions, many of them quite clever and ingenious. For me, I think the geeky problem solutions are what sets this board (and the old timers here) apart.

I have one or two ideas/solutions that I would like to post (like  $100 +/-) auto leak water shutoff system. But, there is no X10 in it.

Do the geeks here welcome that kind of post, or is it beyond what this forum is all about?

Chris

 97 
 on: February 20, 2024, 03:56:27 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by brobin
Case in point! Lighting up the world:


 98 
 on: February 20, 2024, 03:12:51 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by Brian H
I am a bit surprised X10 is still around.
I know some here still have BSR modules still functioning.
After X10 Wireless Technologies just shut down with no warnings one day.
Thought we where done.
I am glad we got a new owner.
Yes it looks like newer automation users are going a different route.


 99 
 on: February 20, 2024, 12:52:39 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by brobin
Actually, I think it's astonishing that X10 is still around at all. It will be 50 years old next year(!) with little to no change in its product line and nothing made obsolete or requiring firmware updates.  It's hard to think of any other consumer product that's had such a long run.  But times do change and newer offerings eliminate the constraints imposed by using PLC.  While the PLC issues have been successfully mitigated by serious users, most whom are members of this forum, today's options are just easier for the masses to use.

X-10, as the defacto HA standard for years, never evolved their product and has been surpassed by others who offer better solutions.  Even their WM100 was obsolete the day they released it and they've done little to improve it. 

 100 
 on: February 20, 2024, 01:07:54 AM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by glacier991
Agree, but like a lot of these things, I now and then see them on E-Bay.

But that said, your comment could and does apply to an ever growing number of X-10 products. Either out of stock, not in production, it replaced by newer, often cheaper or smaller non X10 products.

(sigh).

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