I just installed Windows Vista on my PC and now the VA11A video capture device no longer works. Does anyone know if X10 plans on releasing updated drivers in the near future?
That's probably why.
Since nobody from X10 USA has ever replied on this X10 Community Forum on the Vista compatibly, trial was the only way to find out.
Here is a PS to my last post.
Bill's X10 Voice Commander also works perfect under Windows Vista Ultimate.
Rob
I am about to install Windows Vista. In the readiness section it advised me that I would have to find a new driver for Active Home Pro after installation. I cannot find it on the website. Can you help.
...I have been following this thread with GREAT interest! I hope everyone will continue to post their own experiences with Vista and X10 to this thread. It appears to be the ONLY source for information on this we have.Ditto...
Greetings!
We do not expect to have VA11A drivers for Vista until May 1st at the very earliest. Remember, a Microsoft operating system is not really trustworthy until the first Service Pack comes out. If you have any more questions, please reply to this email. Thanks for choosing X10!
X10 Email Support
http://kbase.x10.com/
I finally got a reply from Tech Support at X10 in regards to the VA11A USB video capture adapter and Windows Vista, and it's a bit... depressing to me, to say the least, but at least now there's an answer for all the customers out there wondering the same thing. Here is their reply:Regardless of whether Microsoft ever has a "trustworthy" operating system, as they put it, that sounds like a BS excuse to me.
Quote: "Greetings!
We do not expect to have VA11A drivers for Vista until May 1st at the very earliest. Remember, a Microsoft operating system is not really trustworthy until the first Service Pack comes out. If you have any more questions, please reply to this email. Thanks for choosing X10!...
Greetings!
We do not expect to have VA11A drivers for Vista until May 1st at the very earliest. Remember, a Microsoft operating system is not really trustworthy until the first Service Pack comes out. If you have any more questions, please reply to this email. Thanks for choosing X10!
X10 Email Support
http://kbase.x10.com/
It is a pretty poor way to address the problem. If you're looking for a Vista driver you most likely have already made the decision that Vista is "trustworthy" enough for you to use.
I think that the major hold-up with the VA11A is that the current driver can't be signed, and that they need to pretty much re-write it in order to make it signable. It's a lot of work to re-do a video device driver, and I'd guess that the developers can't get to it yet.
...What would be a cheaper faster (BETTER) solution would be to update AHP to except ANY (Microsoft approved) video input device the customer chooses.
What about patching AHP to at least accept the "Intel PC Camera" that windows detects it as by default?
That would certainly make installation easier for everyone.
...In short, AHP and the CM15A WILL work with Vista.I haven't upgraded to Vista but from the discussions here it seems the main problem people are having is using the cameras.
X10 hasn't written the drivers for the cameras to work with Vista
I am about to install Windows Vista. In the readiness section it advised me that I would have to find a new driver for Active Home Pro after installation. I cannot find it on the website. Can you help.
A friend of mine updated to Vista and uses AHP and the CM15A. When he reinstalled AHP and plugged the CM15 to the usb port and rebooted, Windows saw the interface and reported it properly in the Hardware.
In short, AHP and the CM15A WILL work with Vista.
So I'm taking it from this discussion that when I called customer service before I ordered Multiview and asked about it working with Vista, they gave me bad information....I believed the correct term would be "lied to you" unless they keep marketing and customer service in the dark for "plausible deniability". Then the term would be deception.
Unlike previous releases of Windows, Vista has been in beta plenty long enough for companies to have at least preliminary drivers. It amazes me as to how many software companies including X10 that haven't written drivers yet.
...X10 never had the VA11A driver signed by Microsoft (for a couple valid reasons) and the VA11A driver can't be signed in its current form....And those "valid reasons" would be? Inquiring minds want to know.
And those "valid reasons" would be? Inquiring minds want to know.
Guys,
I found a way to get the VA11A working in Vista... at least it worked for me. Some of this may need to be done as the administrator.
Change that section as shown below... (add semicolons in front of 3 lines...
[SPCA506AV.CopyDrivers]
CA506AV.SYS
;STREAM.SYS
[SPCA506AV.CopyCodec]
;IYUV_32.DLL
;MSH263.DRV
Dave
bnocturnal
MichealC: While I have no idea why you left X10 and it's none of my business anyway, I do appreciate your frequenting this forum and sharing your knowledge,As do I and many others! ;) :D ;D
There is not currently a 64-bit driver for the VA11A. We're going to be working on that, but it will take some time to complete.
Guys,
I found a way to get the VA11A working in Vista... at least it worked for me. Some of this may need to be done as the administrator. I have UAC turned off, so I am not sure. ;-)
1. After installing the drivers along with ActiveHome/Iwitness or Vanguard or with X10Drivers.exe, plug in tha VA11A
2. Vista will attempt and fail to install the drivers.
3. Navigate to C:\Program Files\Common Files\X10\DriverInstall\VA11A Video Capture"
4. Open the file CA506AV.inf in Notepad and find the following section:
[SPCA506AV.CopyDrivers]
CA506AV.SYS
STREAM.SYS
[SPCA506AV.CopyCodec]
IYUV_32.DLL
MSH263.DRV
5. Change that section as shown below... (add semicolons in front of 3 lines...
[SPCA506AV.CopyDrivers]
CA506AV.SYS
;STREAM.SYS
[SPCA506AV.CopyCodec]
;IYUV_32.DLL
;MSH263.DRV
6. Save the file, and close notepad
7. In the device manager (Right-Click on "My Computer" and choose Manage) Expand the USB section and find the VA11A that should show up there as a non-working device.
8. Open the device, and chooose "Re-install driver". Tell vista you want to locate the driver yourself, and browse to the folder above.
9. Vista should warn you the driver is unsigned, but allow you to install anyway.
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As an option, you may want to edit the .inf file *before* plugging in the VA11A... I suspect that would work also, but did not try it myself. You would still get a "install failed" message when vista attempts to install the "audio" portion of the capture device. That shouldn't matter, as the VA11A doesn't support audio anyway.
Dave
bnocturnal
Since Vista is now on all new computers [except maybe those with Linux] X10 will have to do signed drivers or the product will not purchased by new computer users. Money talks. ::)I've yet to see X10 post any disclaimers in their ads regarding use with Vista. Since those "new computer users" don't have any way of knowing of the driver problems, we may have to wait till a significant number of them return the product. Feedback from existing long term users appears to have limited, if any, effect.
... the fact that a sizable number of X10 USA's programmers have left, so there's apparently no on staff who can do it, or anything else requiring decent programmers.
After entering the bcdedit command successfully, and modifying/saving
I type in (set loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS) and hit enter. ............ am I doing something wrong?
At one point in time I too had my va11a working (with vista basic) with the semicolon add and reinstalling the driver and it worked for a little while but when it stopped it stopped have not been able to get it to work again. I dont remember what the error was. Anyway been trying to use Moocow's work around. The problem I am having is (no problem getting to bcdedit) when I type in (set loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS) and hit enter. This is what I get (Enviroment variable loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS not defined) am I doing something wrong?
thankX a bunch moocow, your specifications did really work. now i can use vanguard control center on my vista home basic computer.
followed through every step. after so many months to work with this but thanks
just one issue is that i see alot of lag but dont know why????? but as long i see images.
anyone out there having problems.... PM Mr. Moocow. he will sure lend a hand
...Just got my new VA11A but will not work under VISTA HOME PREMIUM does anyone know why it will not work with VISTA? when I got it There was no indication that it would not run under VISTA...That's because X10 is more interested in marketing product than fixing problems like that. X10 hasn't taken the steps to create drivers for it to work on Vista yet. I too am disappointed that they don't post a disclaimer with using the VA11A with Vista.
...Vista is supposed to release SP1 this week, so it should meet the criteria of someone who stated that no operating system from Microsoft is considered stable until the 1st service patch.Maybe. Optimistically I'd say the odds might be more than 50% in favor. However, realistically I still don't expect any rush on their part.
I've read through all nine pages, tried searches. Could some one PLEASE post the link to Degarces3 thread that explains how to modify the VA11A drivers to run under VISTA.
thanks
Does it for sure work on xp I will turn an old machine into xp if it for sure works.yes! ;)
When I make the changes and try to save them in the CA506AV.inf I get a message that Cannot create the file, make sure path and file are correct.........................any suggestions?I had the same problem. I saved it to a different folder, moved the original file and then moved the new file to replace the original. Clumsy but effective!
As Bill Clinton made famous, I feel your pain!Maybe they need to change to open source and concentrate on earning income with their hardware.
The root cause of the "Unsigned VA11A Driver and Windows Vista!" problem is squarely in the X10USA corner, and it's well known here that X10 has lost a lot of programmers in the last two years. It took X10 almost two years to produce an upgrade of AHP.
It would be nice if the person who hacked the XP driver for the VA11A would post the file on the web somewhere (NOT here or on the X10 site) that Vista users could download it and fix their problem.
...Tried the workaround, doesn't work. Sigh, all my cameras are basically "junk" until it does....Unfortunately till they do, that's about all you can do. Be sure and send them a letter expressing your needs and feelings. Eventually, I would of believed by now, X10 will have to address the issue when enough people have switched to Vista.
...Won't buy anything more from X10 until they fix the Vista issue with the VA11A or offer an alternate that does. >*<
As Bill Clinton made famous, I feel your pain!
The root cause of the "Unsigned VA11A Driver and Windows Vista!" problem is squarely in the X10USA corner, and it's well known here that X10 has lost a lot of programmers in the last two years. It took X10 almost two years to produce an upgrade of AHP.
It would be nice if the person who hacked the XP driver for the VA11A would post the file on the web somewhere (NOT here or on the X10 site) that Vista users could download it and fix their problem.
....................It would be nice if the person who hacked the XP driver for the VA11A would post the file on the web somewhere (NOT here or on the X10 site) that Vista users could download it and fix their problem.
Add me to the unhappy campers...just bought a new PC with Vista...and guess what doesn't work???