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Title: What No Freeze???
Post by: tom j on September 26, 2006, 02:33:10 PM
I getting ready to go out of town and I just realized that the new Active Home Pro doesn't have the freeze option. Say what gives here it's on the old Active Home and it's an extremely useful feature. Now I'm going to have to delete some of my timers because I don't repeat don't what them to run while I'm away, then after I return reinstall them or at least create two diffrent files. How could this have been overlooked you would think that everything the old AH could do the Pro could at least do like being able to combine security and the dust/dawn option say what gives here sure hope I just overlooked it and that I was just not looking in the right place sure hope so.  >:(  >:(   ???
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: TakeTheActive on September 26, 2006, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: tom j on September 26, 2006, 02:33:10 PM
...I just realized that the new Active Home Pro doesn't have the freeze option. Say what gives here it's on the old Active Home and it's an extremely useful feature...

...I just noting looking in the right place sure hope so.  >:(  >:(   ???

I'm upstairs on the CM11A laptop right now, but, I'm fairly certain that I saw a DISABLE Checkbox in the top-left corner of that bottom center window where you create the Timer - maybe it was on the ADVANCED screen? Take a look - I'm SURE you shouldn't have to delete anything! At least, save your current setup as a SAVE AS "NewName" and hack on that one if you're in a hurry...
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: Tuicemen on September 26, 2006, 03:21:42 PM
You can disable/freeze timers
TTA you did notice correctly!
Just uncheck the timers you wish to deativate(not to run)
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: tom j on September 26, 2006, 11:42:50 PM
Quote from: Tuicemen on September 26, 2006, 03:21:42 PM
You can disable/freeze timers
TTA you did notice correctly!
Just uncheck the timers you wish to deativate(not to run)

Thanks Guys will take a look what about having security and dust/dawn??

Tcj
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: TakeTheActive on September 26, 2006, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: tom j on September 26, 2006, 11:42:50 PM
...what about having security and dust/dawn??

Refresh my memory - what exactly are you looking for?  [Give me a few examples...]
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: tom j on September 27, 2006, 12:46:22 AM
You're Right! Dang I don't know how I missed that  ???  ;D You guys are good, really good Thanks!!

Tcj
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: tom j on September 27, 2006, 12:50:39 AM
Quote from: TakeTheActive on September 26, 2006, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: tom j on September 26, 2006, 11:42:50 PM
...what about having security and dust/dawn??

Refresh my memory - what exactly are you looking for?  [Give me a few examples...]


Oops sorry well in the old Activehome you could setup a dust/dawn timer and use the security mode so that they would come on or off at a slightly different time when you try it in AHP it's grayed out if you try to combine the two.

Tcj
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 27, 2006, 07:48:59 AM
You have to delete the timer and rebuild it to get the Security Option box back.   I suspect it's a bug that needs to be fixed.
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: delibaker on September 27, 2006, 08:45:43 AM
Just did a quick test of deleting the timer and yes the security box shows available.  When I selected the "on at night" option the "on time", "off time", and "security" greys out.  If I check the security box before selecting the "on at night" option the security box greys out but remains checked.  I'm not sure if the security feature will actually work this way, but I'll check the logs later tonight.
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 27, 2006, 10:27:12 AM
That's what is supposed to happen. You select the Security Option before creating any timers.  Security makes the timers run +30 minutes and -30 minutes on a random rotating schedule.

For example:  You have a lamp you want to have the  Security Option on and have a timer that turns on the lamp at 45 minutes before dusk and off at 12:30 AM.  You check the Security option and create the timers.  The lamp turns on a 45 minutes before dusk, the Security Option adds or subtracts 30 minutes.  The lamp will turn on any time before dusk and turn off at 12:30 AM + or - 30 minutes.  The Security Option gives the light the "lived in" appearence.
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: tom j on September 27, 2006, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: delibaker on September 27, 2006, 08:45:43 AM
Just did a quick test of deleting the timer and yes the security box shows available.  When I selected the "on at night" option the "on time", "off time", and "security" greys out.  If I check the security box before selecting the "on at night" option the security box greys out but remains checked.  I'm not sure if the security feature will actually work this way, but I'll check the logs later tonight.

Does it work? x10 support told me that they had to deleat this feature a combination of security & dust/dawn for some reason, this was a few months back think they added it back in?  ???

Tcj
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: delibaker on September 27, 2006, 08:02:06 PM
Just checked my timers and activity log and there was no timer event occurance. The timer was set to turn on a backyard light at dusk, 18:44 local, with the security boxed checked so the timer should have fired anytime between 18:14 - 19:14.  Waited till 19:20, still nothing.  Deleted the timer and recreated it to fire at dusk after 40 minutes "without the security box checked" and it went off at 19:24 without a problem.  I will recreate the original timer and check in the morning to see if it turns off at dawn.
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: tom j on September 29, 2006, 03:53:09 AM
Quote from: delibaker on September 27, 2006, 08:02:06 PM
Just checked my timers and activity log and there was no timer event occurance. The timer was set to turn on a backyard light at dusk, 18:44 local, with the security boxed checked so the timer should have fired anytime between 18:14 - 19:14.  Waited till 19:20, still nothing.  Deleted the timer and recreated it to fire at dusk after 40 minutes "without the security box checked" and it went off at 19:24 without a problem.  I will recreate the original timer and check in the morning to see if it turns off at dawn.

Yep that's what I thought! that it wouldn't work whats up with that  ???

Tcj
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: delibaker on September 29, 2006, 07:22:41 AM
Backyard light set to turn on at dusk and off at dawn with security box checked, downloaded to interface and PC left on.  I've run this timer for two days and the light DOES NOT TURN ON at all or within +/- 30 of dusk setting.  However the strange thing is it DOES TURN OFF within +/- 30 of dawn setting.  I'll delete the timer and module,  recreate them and monitor what happens over the weekend.
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: tom j on October 01, 2006, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: delibaker on September 29, 2006, 07:22:41 AM
Backyard light set to turn on at dusk and off at dawn with security box checked, downloaded to interface and PC left on.  I've run this timer for two days and the light DOES NOT TURN ON at all or within +/- 30 of dusk setting.  However the strange thing is it DOES TURN OFF within +/- 30 of dawn setting.  I'll delete the timer and module,  recreate them and monitor what happens over the weekend.

Please get back and let us know what you find. I tried once before and I couldn't get the timers to work, waiting to see what your results are. Thanks

Tcj
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: delibaker on October 02, 2006, 08:50:09 AM
Ok, here are my test results using AHP 3.206 with SmartMacros and OnAlert plugins.  Using the "On At Night" timer feature with the SECURITY, STORE IN INTERFACE, & REPEAT boxes checked the backyard light DOES NOT TURN ON at dusk, but it DOES TURN OFF at dawn.  I've also created the same timer without the SECURITY box checked with the same results!  I suspect that this is related to the release of AHP 3.206 for the OnAlert plugin!  Can anyone test this with AHP 3.204???
Title: Re: What No Freeze???
Post by: tom j on October 08, 2006, 06:25:46 AM
Quote from: delibaker on October 02, 2006, 08:50:09 AM
Ok, here are my test results using AHP 3.206 with SmartMacros and OnAlert plugins.  Using the "On At Night" timer feature with the SECURITY, STORE IN INTERFACE, & REPEAT boxes checked the backyard light DOES NOT TURN ON at dusk, but it DOES TURN OFF at dawn.  I've also created the same timer without the SECURITY box checked with the same results!  I suspect that this is related to the release of AHP 3.206 for the OnAlert plugin!  Can anyone test this with AHP 3.204???

Hi does the security feature at least work at dawn in the since that it varies the time that the dawn off time is activated. Thanks

Tcj