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Title: MS14A change its address of itself from A1 to A2
Post by: marineau on October 08, 2006, 09:52:34 AM
Hi,

In my house is connected  CM15A, MS14A(Code A1), WS467(Code A2) and LM465(Code A1)

While many time all run fine... And suddenly WS467 blink(ON OFF) to each 5 seconds, for stop this event I'm obligate to remove a battery from a MS14A. After remove battery all run fine.
I tried many time, and a problem go back !

I tried another time like this method:
A - I disconnected CM15A from a 110Volts and from USB port and remove a battery.
B - Install a battery in a MS14A
C - Test a motion and all run fine while many time
D - I press on WS467  for open a light (bulb 40 watts)
E - A problem is back, a bulb connected to WS467 blink again on each 5 seconds !
F -  I installed a battery in CM15A , connected a CM15A to USB port and110Volts.
G - I ran AHPro, Press F2 and noticed that in screen I view that a MS14A
      send a signal to A2 address

Why does MS14A change its address of itself from A1 to A2 ?
Title: Re: MS14A change its address of itself from A1 to A2
Post by: Brian H on October 08, 2006, 10:33:17 AM
By chance is the Light being controlled by the WS467 in a place where it can shine on the MS14A?
The MS14A has what is called a Dusk Dawn sensor in it and uses the next highest address for that function. So A1 is the motion sensor and A2 will be the dusk dawn. If the light shines on the motion sensor it will pulse on and off as the sensor keeps thinking it is dusk or dawn. Don't use A2 for the WS467 unless you want it to go on and off as the room or area where the sensor is mounted gets dark and light.
Title: Re: MS14A change its address of itself from A1 to A2
Post by: marineau on October 08, 2006, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: Brian H on October 08, 2006, 10:33:17 AM
By chance is the Light being controlled by the WS467 in a place where it can shine on the MS14A?
The MS14A has what is called a Dusk Dawn sensor in it and uses the next highest address for that function. So A1 is the motion sensor and A2 will be the dusk dawn. If the light shines on the motion sensor it will pulse on and off as the sensor keeps thinking it is dusk or dawn. Don't use A2 for the WS467 unless you want it to go on and off as the room or area where the sensor is mounted gets dark and light.

Ok, I tried with another address and simule with halogene lamp, and this operate like you said !

If I understood, this modul can be use for two function:

Firsty apply = MS14A(A5) and ModulLamp(A6) = detection of Dusk et Dawn
Second apply = MS14A(A5) and ModulLamp(A5) = motion detection

Thanks for info


Title: Re: MS14A change its address of itself from A1 to A2
Post by: marineau on October 08, 2006, 12:54:36 PM
Quote from: marineau on October 08, 2006, 12:25:20 PM
Firsty apply = MS14A(A5) and ModulLamp(A6) = detection of Dusk et Dawn
Second apply = MS14A(A5) and ModulLamp(A5) = motion detection

I tought to connect a lampmodul(B1) to another lampmodul(B2) (in serial), and set a MS14A to B1 !
So a lamp would be ON only while a night and when a motion is detected

Does i can connect a lampmodul(B1) to another lampmodul(B2) (serial) ?
Title: Re: MS14A change its address of itself from A1 to A2
Post by: Brian H on October 08, 2006, 01:47:09 PM
May work. Take a look at the instruction sheet. The MA14A can be set to only detect motion when it is dark.

Remember after a preset time of no motion. The sensor sends an Off on the motion address. So even at night you will get a preset time on before it goes off.

Do you have the Smart macro plug in? maybe someone can give you a macro that will do what you want easier.

Edit to fix bad data.
Title: Re: MS14A change its address of itself from A1 to A2
Post by: marineau on October 08, 2006, 06:01:56 PM
Quote from: Brian H on October 08, 2006, 01:47:09 PM
May work. Take a look at the instruction sheet. The MA14A can be set to only detect motion when it is dark.
Remember after a preset time of no motion. The sensor sends an Off on the main house code. So even at night you will get a preset time on before it goes off.
Do you have the Smart macro plug in? maybe someone can give you a macro that will do what you want easier.

I have my own program in VB6, and can do anything ! I will have a fun !

Thanks
Title: Re: MS14A change its address of itself from A1 to A2
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 08, 2006, 06:18:05 PM
Quote from: marineau on October 08, 2006, 12:54:36 PM
I tought to connect a lampmodul(B1) to another lampmodul(B2) (in serial), and set a MS14A to B1 !
So a lamp would be ON only while a night and when a motion is detected

Does i can connect a lampmodul(B1) to another lampmodul(B2) (serial) ?

marineau,

How did you make out with the "Reading List" that I gave you?

You're ideas are interesting, but your grasp of the X10 World is still low (nothing that a week of reading this forum *AND* the NG:comp.home.automation couldn't correct! ;) )

Here are some ideas for "Lamp ON *ONLY* When DARK and Motion = Detected:


Quote from: marineau on October 08, 2006, 12:25:20 PM
Firsty apply = MS14A(A5) and ModulLamp(A6) = detection of Dusk et Dawn
Second apply = MS14A(A5) and ModulLamp(A5) = motion detection

Please read (or re-read) my notes:


Good Luck! :)
Title: Re: MS14A change its address of itself from A1 to A2
Post by: marineau on October 10, 2006, 07:35:31 AM
Quote from: TakeTheActive on October 08, 2006, 06:18:05 PM
[li]You can also use the idea I used with my CM11A: Designate a "NIGHTIME" HouseCode ('N') and plug a Transceiver (RR501 or TM751) into an Appliance Module. Set a TIMER to TURN the AM ON at 19:00 and TURN the AM OFF at 23:00. Set your MSxx and Wall Switch / Lamp Module to HC 'N' (or translate with a MACRO). DONE! :)
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Your method is very clever, and deserves that I studied it of advantage!
I could surely use this method for other things too !

Thanks