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Title: How open a light (begin) to 10% DIM
Post by: marineau on October 14, 2006, 06:56:37 PM
I would like to make me gradually awake each morning by the light (LM465).
exemple:
5:30AM 10%
5:35AM 20 %
5:40AM 30%
5:45AM 40 %
5:50AM 60%
6:00AM 100 %

A problem is that a light is 100% when a first event run, and few second later is to 10% !

Title: Re: How open a light (begin) to 10% DIM
Post by: KDR on October 14, 2006, 07:15:08 PM
The LM465 can't do it without going full bright first. The LM14A however can be turned on at the last known brightness level. So if you turn it off at 10% bright then the next time you turn it on it will turn on at 10%. Then you can use a macro to brighten it over time. You would need a macro to turn it off though. Dim it to 10% pause and then issue a off command.
Title: Re: How open a light (begin) to 10% DIM
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 14, 2006, 07:30:34 PM
I would like to make me gradually awake each morning by the light (LM465).
exemple:
5:30AM 10%
5:35AM 20 %
5:40AM 30%
5:45AM 40 %
5:50AM 60%
6:00AM 100 %

A problem is that a light is 100% when a first event run, and few second later is to 10% !

Begin the macro with DIM 99% RELATIVE when you go to bed. That will leave the LM465 ON, but not emitting any visible light. Then:

5:30AM BRIGHTEN 10% RELATIVE (Total: 10% - well really 11%, but who's counting! ;) )

5:35AM BRIGHTEN 10% RELATIVE (Total: 20%)

5:40AM BRIGHTEN 10% RELATIVE (Total: 30%)

5:45AM BRIGHTEN 10% RELATIVE (Total: 40%)

5:50AM BRIGHTEN 20% RELATIVE (Total: 60%)

6:00AM BRIGHTEN 40% RELATIVE (Total: 100%)

Set the timers to 1 min each, try it now and let us know how it works out! :)
Title: Re: How open a light (begin) to 10% DIM
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 14, 2006, 07:32:59 PM
The LM465 can't do it without going full bright first...

Sure it can!  ;D  [Once you pre-set it...  8) ]
Title: Re: How open a light (begin) to 10% DIM
Post by: KDR on October 14, 2006, 08:13:05 PM
Right from a preset. But from a off state it will always go to 100% first won't it?
Title: Re: How open a light (begin) to 10% DIM
Post by: marineau on October 14, 2006, 08:38:55 PM
Begin the macro with DIM 99% RELATIVE when you go to bed. That will leave the LM465 ON, but not emitting any visible light.
I tought to this, I tried and work !
But ask me if DIM to 99% whiles many hours can to damage a LM465 module ?
While this time I noticed that a bulb do a noise which scintillates (a little unpleasant during the sleep) !!!
Also, I'm ask me if this can to damage a bulb ?
Also, I'm ask me if a bulb 100 Watts consume the same current proportionally (1 Watt) or 100 watts ?

I noticed that after 60 minutes, a bulb is hot with a finger !
Title: Re: How open a light (begin) to 10% DIM
Post by: marineau on October 14, 2006, 09:01:16 PM
Also, I'm ask me if a bulb 100 Watts consume the same current proportionally (1 Watt) or 100 watts ?
I just verified with my HioKy Ampere Meter tester....

My 100w Bulb (no dimmer) to 118 Volts give me 0.8 Amp (total=94 Watts)
(with dimmer) to 118 Volts give me 0.0?? Amp (total=+/- 1 Watts)

So with dimmer a consumption is +/- proportionally !
Title: Re: How open a light (begin) to 10% DIM
Post by: Charles Sullivan on October 14, 2006, 09:06:15 PM
Begin the macro with DIM 99% RELATIVE when you go to bed. That will leave the LM465 ON, but not emitting any visible light.
I tought to this, I tried and work !

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But ask me if DIM to 99% whiles many hours can to damage a LM465 module ?

No.

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While this time I noticed that a bulb do a noise which scintillates (a little unpleasant during the sleep) !!!

That can be a problem.

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Also, I'm ask me if this can to damage a bulb ?

Not usually.

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Also, I'm ask me if a bulb 100 Watts consume the same current proportionally (1 Watt) or 100 watts ?

The percentage is not linearly related to the power (or the voltage either).

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I noticed that after 60 minutes, a bulb is hot with a finger !

For your bedroom, you'll be a lot happier with an LM14A.  When Off it's completely Off (except for the local sense current), and if you have a temporary power interruption during the night (or if it actually receives an Off signal), you'll still be able to brighten it gradually from Off in the morning.

Title: Re: How open a light (begin) to 10% DIM
Post by: steven r on October 18, 2006, 12:05:39 PM
...For your bedroom, you'll be a lot happier with an LM14A.  When Off it's completely Off (except for the local sense current), and if you have a temporary power interruption during the night (or if it actually receives an Off signal), you'll still be able to brighten it gradually from Off in the morning.
Good point!
The LM465, on the other hand, defaults to off if there is any powere interuption. This means full brightness at 5:30 for you, if anyone hits an all off command or you even have a 1 second power interuption.