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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Troubleshooting Automation Problems => Topic started by: cyberserf on December 04, 2006, 09:24:29 PM
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I have everything set to housecode E
was using the palmpad remote with tm751 to contol my switchlinc flourecent light switch. worked great
I updated to the active home pro since I wanted to use timers to automate on\off of lighting.
when I use the software on the PC to control the switch it turns on\off fine
but when I use palmpad to activate the switch I am getting no response. the switch on the active home software is going on\off but the light is not responding.
how can light go on\off with when pressing switch on PC but not with palmpad? How can that be?
Thanks!
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I have everything set to housecode E
Did you set AHP to Transceive House Code E?
(Under Tools / Hardware Configuration)
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The transeive code is set properly on AHP and the palpad remote. my light turns on/off from within AHP so I am sure that the housecode is not the issue.
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If Transeive Code is set right in Hardware setup. Try using the palmpad very close to the CM15a. You can also watch the "Activity Monitor" to verify the palmpad signals get through. Hopefully this can lead you to where the problem might be.
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The signal is getting to the AHP when using the palmpad. I can see it on the screen. it just not triggering the light on/off.
why does it work when using the mouse to turn on/off??
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I didn't know about the activity monitor. Very nice APP.
from what I can see. when I use the mouse to turn the light on/off it says "transmit" for all the commands.
when I use the palmpad it only says "receive" and receive RF". it never actually transmits the command.
What can I do to make it transmit the commands it receives from the palmpad?
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As was said above - It's in tools / Hardware configuration. You will see the housecodes to transieve (Bad Spelling, I know.)
Be sure that you have the Housecodes that you are using checked...
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ArtClark,
I double checked like you said.
I have monitored house code: E
Transceived house codes: E is checked
I even put the palmpad remote right next to the unit and it makes no difference.
I put the tm751 and removed the AHP module. everything works as it should. I want to know why my remotes are not transmitting commands through the cm15a
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When you used the TM751 and removed the CM15A. Did you also have the computer used to access the CM15A off? Many electronic devices; generate powerline noise that can mess up X10 signals.
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The only way the on/off works is when using the PC AHP software switchusing mouse.
when using the palmpad the switch does move in the AHP software but no response from actual light.
on another note, after further testing, all my other switches/modules seem to work just fine on E housecode with AHP and controlled by palmpad.
just not the switchlinc 2883 flouresent switch. why does this unit work within ahp and not from palmpad???
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Did you try it with the TM751 unplugged?
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Did you try it with the TM751 unplugged?
yes, I unplugged the t751 when trying the palmpad. its nice not hearing the click when turining on/off :)
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...its nice not hearing the click when turining on/off :)
What unit code is your switchlinc fluorescentlight switch set to?
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...its nice not hearing the click when turining on/off :)
What unit code is your switchlinc fluorescentlight switch set to?
tried with housecode e/f/g, made no difference.
always used with unit code 1
what I don't understand is why it works perfectly when using on/off switch within AHP software!!? ???
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always used with unit code 1
what I don't understand is why it works perfectly when using on/off switch within AHP software!!? ???
In AHP, do you have the Transceiver module there as well as the switch module?
If you do, and they are on the same address (E1), the switch will work fine when pressed via the mouse because it will sent a PLC signal; but your remote is probably triggering the Transceiver module which will send an RF signal... I doubt the switch can recognise X-10 RF.
Maybe put the switch on a different Unit Code (not 1).
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always used with unit code 1
what I don't understand is why it works perfectly when using on/off switch within AHP software!!? ???
In AHP, do you have the Transceiver module there as well as the switch module?
If you do, and they are on the same address (E1), the switch will work fine when pressed via the mouse because it will sent a PLC signal; but your remote is probably triggering the Transceiver module which will send an RF signal... I doubt the switch can recognise X-10 RF.
Maybe put the switch on a different Unit Code (not 1).
I tried unit code 3. no difference.
you are right about the ahp with mouse sending the "transmit" signal while the palmad is sending the "receive RF" signal.
I am guessing the switch doesnt understand the RF as you stated.
should I try a different brand flourescent switch besides switchlinc?
also cant the AHP pro application be updated to work around this shortcoming in the switch? I would have thought AHP programmers would have recognized this issue.
right now the only way the switch is working with the palmpad remote is with the tm751 plugged in. even then it seems there is a conflict with ahp also plugged in since my light sometimes turns on even after I turn it off so I have to turn it off twice. probably 2 signals being sent.
all is well with mouse and PC AHP app.
Thanks!
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The switch type you selected shouldn't matter in this case.
What Tuicemen & I found, was that if you are running XP and you have a Transciever Module in AHP, then all commands to that housecode will be sent via RF... In Win2K, that doesn't appear to be the case.
Maybe try removing the Transceiver Module from AHP and resave to the CM15A... try tricking AHP into not sending the signal via RF.
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only thing I have is the xps3 switch module in AHP. I tried the other switches just to check. made no difference.
I have removed all other modules and cleared/saved hardware config.
why does the AHP software when using mouse send transmit signals while the palmpad sends receive RF/receive signals?
the switch picture in AHP shows it turning on/off regardless of me using the mouse or palmpad.
::) ???
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I know it's a stupid question, but did you download the "Timers and Macros" to the CM15A interface? ::) ???
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I did a little experimenting.
just created a workaround.
Since the AHP doesnt seem to work with palmpad commands, I plugged the tm751 transiever back as E1 (1 is only option)
then I setup the switchlinc light switch as E2.
seems to work fine with palmpad and no double commands being sent out from AHP.
Thanks for all the help.
also, any way to email the makers of AHP to get some detailed response?
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This may sound dumb, but you might want to try setting the AHP software to transieve ALL housecodes. After reading all of this several times, it really does seem that there is a connection problem between that specific switch module and the CM15a. As you state, the AHP software IS activating the screen module. This means the CM15a IS getting the RF signal. It probably is sending the PLC command out, but not correctly. Your workaround should work just fine, so maybe you should leave well enough alone. I find this a very strange problem, that I have seen before with my setup, but never totally got rid of. It also seems to come and go with battery level in my palmpad, even though the RF signal still shows up in AHP. (Weird, huh.) How the AHP software can correctly send the PLC command when asked to from the Mouse/screen but not resend the command via PLC when getting a good RF signal and having the unit set to Send/receive the correct housecode makes no sense to me at all.
IMHO, it can't be Noise, or ANY external interference. Mouse OK & RF Receive in activity Monitor proves this. This must be in the CM15a. If the Palmpad had the problem, the TM751 would bomb too. Good Luck and if you figure this out, please let us know. I'm sure more than just me will be VERY interested.