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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Troubleshooting Automation Problems => Topic started by: kats67 on July 20, 2007, 12:27:27 AM

Title: [HELP] WS467 Not Responding to AHP (Manually or via Timer)
Post by: kats67 on July 20, 2007, 12:27:27 AM
I have one out of three WS467 switches that I am using on my front porch light that will not respond to my AHP timer command. I have installed a phase coupler to the 220 Dryer outlet.  Everything else works fine.  I just REPLACED the switch with a new one and it still will not work with the timer.  It will work manually by pushing the button.  It will not work from the AHP manually.  A Key remote won't make it work either.  Can anyone help? Very frustrating...
Title: Re: [HELP] WS467 Not Responding to AHP (Manually or via Timer)
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on July 20, 2007, 01:07:28 AM
Quote from: kats67 on July 20, 2007, 12:27:27 AM
I have one out of three WS467 switches that I am using on my front porch light that will not respond to my AHP timer command. I have installed a phase coupler to the 220 Dryer outlet.  Everything else works fine.  I just REPLACED the switch with a new one and it still will not work with the timer.  It will work manually by pushing the button.  It will not work from the AHP manually.  A Key remote won't make it work either.  Can anyone help? Very frustrating...

What type of bulb are you using in your porch light?
The porch light isn't also being controlled by a built-in motion sensor or something?

Just some thoughts.
Title: Re: [HELP] WS467 Not Responding to AHP (Manually or via Timer)
Post by: TakeTheActive on July 20, 2007, 10:07:32 AM
Quote from: kats67 on July 20, 2007, 12:27:27 AM

  • 1.) I have one out of three WS467 switches that I am using on my front porch light that will not respond to my AHP timer command.

  • 2.) It will work manually by pushing the button. 

  • 3.) It will not work from the AHP manually.  A Key remote won't make it work either.

  • 4.) I have installed a phase coupler to the 220 Dryer outlet. 

  • 5.) Everything else works fine. 

  • 6.) I just REPLACED the switch with a new one and it still will not work with the timer. 

Can anyone help? Very frustrating...[/size]

Sure it's frustrating! None of the glitzy, *ANNOYING* ads mention *ANY* of the possible pitfalls / stumbling blocks concerning X10. :o

#1 defined the problem; #2 suggests you wired it properly. #3 indicates it's not "hearing" the PLC command - 'Key Remote' is simply a parallel input method to 'Push the Button' on an AHP screen; #4 is a "random dart" (see below); #5 & #6 are encouraging.

Without a proper foundation in X10 knowledge and a logical plan-of-action, successfully troubleshooting and solving an X10 problem is like hitting the bullseye on a dart board while throwing the darts BLINDFOLDED (*AFTER* someone randomly spun you around! :D ). But, if you've got money to burn... ::)

I see that you've been a Member here for over a month - how much READING have you done? ??? 8)

QUOTING from one of my *MANY* TakeTheActive-to-Newbie replies in the Archives:

Back to your experience level -


Quote from: raygeeknyc on March 05, 2007, 09:05:51 AM

...Is there anything else I can try?

Rather than volley back-and-forth with 'Try this...', 'Didn't work? Well then, try this...', I prefer to get Newbies up to a 'known' knowledge level and then work from there.

For a solid foundation of X10 Operation, please start off by reading:

JV Digital Engineering's X10 Troubleshooting Tutorials Series (http://jvde.us/x10_troubleshooting.htm) (http://www.geocities.com/taketheactive/Images/X10_New.gif)

Then:
MAP / MEASURE / CORRECT (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=9899.msg62635#msg62635) - be sure to read the EXCELLENT articles written by JeffVolp and Puck (http://www.geocities.com/taketheactive/Images/X10_Updated_blue_sm_wte.gif)

Finally, with your CIRCUIT MAP and SIGNAL METER in hand, finish up with:

TTA's X10 Troubleshooting Tips Thread [Updated: 2007/03/05]  (Read 7449 times) (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=9899.msg57582#msg57582)

As both Jeff Volp and I say:
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I understand that most users don't want to hear this but

to have a reliable X10 System requires a substantial upfront investment in time and effort

To Get a Reliable X10 System (and I mean RELIABLE), One Has To Do Some Homework (courtesy of Jeff Volp) (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=10187.msg58732#msg58732) (http://www.geocities.com/taketheactive/Images/X10_New.gif)

Have fun and keep us all updated with your progress! :)