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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Troubleshooting Automation Problems => Topic started by: JHGELLIOTT on July 30, 2007, 08:08:41 PM

Title: MS16a OPTIONS MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE
Post by: JHGELLIOTT on July 30, 2007, 08:08:41 PM
I recently purchased a MS16A to interface with my existing activehome controlled house. Upon testing this product I was disappointed with the options relating to night and day. There should be a setting to detect motion at all times and only turn on the unit code +1 at night. This would allow a set of macros to act differently if the sensor is activated during the day or at night. Unless I am mistaken, there is no other way to differentiate night and day when activating a macro with a MS16A. ???
Title: Re: MS16a OPTIONS MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE
Post by: HA Dave on July 30, 2007, 09:36:37 PM

........... there is no other way to differentiate night and day when activating a macro with a MS16A. ???


"when activating a macro" ?..... are you using AHP (CM15A)?

The AHP calculates light/dark based on location and time (which can be used in a macro).

However I am not a big fan of clock-timers for lighting control (clouds can make a big difference). I use the hardwired floodlight (PR511) which has setting that can detect 24 hour montion AND light/dark settings (sending an X10 command).
Title: Re: MS16a OPTIONS MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on July 31, 2007, 02:25:18 PM
I recently purchased a MS16A to interface with my existing activehome controlled house. Upon testing this product I was disappointed with the options relating to night and day. There should be a setting to detect motion at all times and only turn on the unit code +1 at night. This would allow a set of macros to act differently if the sensor is activated during the day or at night. Unless I am mistaken, there is no other way to differentiate night and day when activating a macro with a MS16A. ???

Based on the instructions here: X10 KNOWLEDGEBASE - MS16A ACTIVEEYE INSTRUCTIONS (http://www.x10.com/instructions/ms16a_inst.htm)

The MS16A defaults to detecting motion at all times and not sending the unit-code plus one dusk signal at all.

However, the instructions show that you can change that.  See the section titled: Setting The Dawn/Dusk And Motion Detection Mode, which says that a setting of 3 blinks selects motion detection on at all times and unit-code plus one dusk signal turned on.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: MS16a OPTIONS MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE
Post by: JHGELLIOTT on August 05, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
The problem with option 3 is that it does not turn on unit code +1 on/off when motion is detected. It turns unit code +1 on at dusk and then off at dawn.  That is what the documentation says, I assume this is what it does.  ???
Title: Re: MS16a OPTIONS MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on August 06, 2007, 12:18:08 AM
The problem with option 3 is that it does not turn on unit code +1 on/off when motion is detected. It turns unit code +1 on at dusk and then off at dawn.  That is what the documentation says, I assume this is what it does.  ???

You are correct, it doesn't do that.

It enables motion detection at all times (signaled by unit code on/off) and enables the dusk /dawn feature (signaled by unit code +1 on at dusk and off at dawn).

Is this not what you're asking for?   ???