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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Troubleshooting Automation Problems => Topic started by: neex on September 14, 2008, 07:19:12 PM
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Has anyone ever had this happen? It makes no difference if I use a different tranceiver, reset or use another HC. I am activating the socket rocket with a SS13A as wel as PowerLink through Indigo, an x10 RF remote... None of these seem to be able to turn the socket rocket off! The socket rocket is on HC B2 all by itself. Has anyone ever seen this before?
Thanks,
Andrew.
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Has anyone ever had this happen? It makes no difference if I use a different tranceiver, reset or use another HC. I am activating the socket rocket with a SS13A as wel as PowerLink through Indigo, an x10 RF remote... None of these seem to be able to turn the socket rocket off! The socket rocket is on HC B2 all by itself. Has anyone ever seen this before?
Thanks,
Andrew.
What is in the Socket Rocket? Incandescent, CFL, or LED bulb. CFL, or LED bulbs may be generating enough noise to block the OFF signal.
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If you turn off the power to the Socket Rocket and then turn the power back on. Does it stay off until you turn it on and then get stuck on?
If it turns on as soon as the power is applied and not when commanded to. It has failed. I had a few do that when a light bulb burned out and the surge blew it out.
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Has anyone ever had this happen? It makes no difference if I use a different tranceiver, reset or use another HC. I am activating the socket rocket with a SS13A as wel as PowerLink through Indigo, an x10 RF remote... None of these seem to be able to turn the socket rocket off! The socket rocket is on HC B2 all by itself. Has anyone ever seen this before?
Thanks,
Andrew.
What is in the Socket Rocket? Incandescent, CFL, or LED bulb. CFL, or LED bulbs may be generating enough noise to block the OFF signal.
I had the same thought myself but I have tried a 20, 40, 60 and 100w incasndescent bulb and it's never seen a CFL. It does have two other lights above my garage (non x10) - motion coach lights - connected to the same circuit. Could this have anything to do with the issue??
Thanks,
Andrew.
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Ah Ha!! Bet those non-X10 Coach lights are noise producers. Try disconnecting them and try the Socket Rocket. If it works, move the Coach Lights to another circuit without X10 on it, or buy a noise filter for it.
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I had the same thought myself but I have tried a 20, 40, 60 and 100w incasndescent bulb and it's never seen a CFL. It does have two other lights above my garage (non x10) - motion coach lights - connected to the same circuit. Could this have anything to do with the issue??
Thanks,
Andrew.
I think you missed Brians question. It may not be noise. The Socket Rocket could have failed. Go to the Socket Rocket that you can not turn off. With the bulb lit, unscrew the Socket Rocket completely from the lamp socket and then screw it back in. If the bulb immediately comes back on when the Socket Rocket is screwed back in the socket, the Socket Rocket is shorted. As Brian mentioned earlier, sometimes a Socket Rocket, Lamp Module, or wall switch will fail when the controlled light bulb burns out. The triac in the module shorts from the nasty surge created when the bulb blows. That blue flash and 'pop' usually means trouble for the module.
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What where the results of the test? Did the Socket Rocket in question stay off or did it instantly go back on?
If goes right back on. It is defective and no X10 signal will ever turn it back off.
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What where the results of the test? Did the Socket Rocket in question stay off or did it instantly go back on?
If goes right back on. It is defective and no X10 signal will ever turn it back off.
Sorry I have been offline a bit lately. As for the test of the rocket, it will turn on with the X10 signal but not back off. I didn't try screwing it in to a powered circuit for fear of screwing something up. If I put a noise filter on do I just put that in the box that feeds the coach lights or does that go downstream of the rocket? Thanks.
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So it can be turned on and is not on when power is applied. That means the Socket Rocket is OK.
The Socket Rocket can not be after the filter or the X10 signals will never get to it.
I would say if all on the same circuit. The two coach light have to be after the filter and the Socket Rocket before it.
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Correct. I have just verified that I can turn the rocket on with the handheld remote on HC B2 but it will not go off. The rocket doesn't turn on by itself when put on a powered circuit. What is the best and cheapest (not necessarily both) filter I can mount behind the box on my coach lamp?
Thanks.
Andrew.
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I don't have much data on wired in filters, but I know many others have used them here.
I have seen the X10Pro XPF mentioned; but it is a heavy duty 20 amp one and is large.
I have also seen the Leviton 6287 one mentioned. It is a 5 amp one and I believe is smaller than the X10Pro one so it may fit more electrical boxes. As long as the load is 5 or less amps.