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Title: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: sunbox97 on August 06, 2010, 10:41:54 AM
6 Door/Window Sensor (DS10A) $119.94
2 Security Keychain Remote (KR10A) $39.98
2 Certified Like New: Motion Detector (MS10ASD) $99.98
1 Certified Like New: Voice Dialer Console (PS561SD) $29.99


i see this in promotion price but not sure what is "PS561SD" and "MS10ASD"
somebody pls tell me, thanks
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: nybuck on August 06, 2010, 10:48:33 AM
They add SD to the item number to indicate "Like New", "Scratch and Dent", or my term - 'Returned Items'.

If you're a new customer, you may want to opt for the new items, to avoid disappointment.  My "like new" items arrived in bags instead of boxes, no instructions, missing parts, but mostly working.

Just my 2c.   ;)
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: Brian H on August 06, 2010, 10:49:27 AM
SD. Certified Like New or Scratch and Dent.
Not factory new from reports we have seen.

Thread here may help you with more information.
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=kokcd3tt4r5835nsvn3p0kp8o0&topic=20793.msg118275#new
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: Mel99 on August 06, 2010, 10:53:09 AM
Don't be fooled by the 'List' prices.  You can get them individually for a lot less on eBay or even at a different place in the same email ad.

Mel
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: sunbox97 on August 06, 2010, 11:02:44 AM
all of promotion product is "Like New" or only code SD behind??
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: Mel99 on August 06, 2010, 11:09:58 AM
Probably the not-new items have to marked as such.  Otherwise they could be exposing themselves to legal action. 

Call their sales # and ask the rep who answers.  Keep a record of who you talk to, about what and the date and time.  If any questions come up later, such details will work in your favor.

Mel
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: sunbox97 on August 06, 2010, 12:22:22 PM
i want to order this
http://www.x10.com/promotions/ms10a_ed_5f1_fb149_pw.html

ms10a x 5 $39.99
but i'am not in USA (Thailand) please anyone check it for me Pls (New or Return Item)

thank you for help

thank form Thailand :)
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: Brian H on August 06, 2010, 12:45:36 PM
We are all end users and volunteers here.
So we have no direct information from X10 as employees would.

Your linked page shows 5 MS10As and the part numbers do not have an SD on them.
So they should be new and I see Mel99 confirmed it for you.
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: Mel99 on August 06, 2010, 01:00:10 PM
I chatted online with X10 and following is the meat of what he/she said -

( mel )  Are the 5 MS10A's $39.99 new or scratch and dent, or returns? Thanks
( Meia... ) Hello, Thank you for contacting X10.com where the price has JUST dropped on the World's Best LCD Remote!
Click here to check it out!
( Meia... ) Does it say certified?
( Mel)  No, but it doesn't say new either.
( Meia... ) The kits that are not labeled certified are always new kits.
( Mel_Johnson )  Thanks


Mel
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: pconroy on August 06, 2010, 01:53:40 PM
or my term - 'Returned Items'.

I wonder if the units that caught fire would be considered "scratched" or "dented"?
Maybe they'll take the S to mean "Scorched".

:)
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: Mel99 on August 06, 2010, 02:09:48 PM
I wonder if the units that caught fire would be considered "scratched" or "dented"?
Maybe they'll take the S to mean "Scorched".

:)

If you whacked them with something putting out the fire, they could be 'scorched and dented'

Mel
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: dave w on August 06, 2010, 02:32:19 PM
 rofl
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: sunbox97 on August 06, 2010, 06:26:51 PM
hi all

i chated with x10 official and told him what i want (ps561 x1 ms10a x7 ds10a x8 kr10a x3 sh624x2)
he said "I can offer you a kit that has the ps561 x1 ms10a x7 ds10a x8 kr10a x3 sh624x2 for $114.99 each kit."

and when i ask for way to pay he told "Unfortunately, this is a customized package and can not be ordered online via PayPal. It would need to be purchased through our call center by debit card, or credit card." and he call me (make an oversea call) for check out but i afraid that is no secure to told him my cradit card number. i ask him for other way to pay but it's only way

is't ok to let's he get my card number?


special thank
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: Dan Lawrence on August 06, 2010, 07:39:18 PM
What's the voltage in Thailand?  If it not 110 volts AC, nothing X10USA sells won't work.
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: Brian H on August 06, 2010, 07:52:59 PM
220 Volts 50 Hz.
Our US and Canada 120 volt 60 HZ devices will not work in Thailand.

Are you going to be trying to use any Security Lights controlled by the X10 power line signals?
If not. The console may run with a 220 volt to 120 volt stepdown transformer.
The transformer may not allow the consoles line signals to get back to the power line.
The 50Hz line frequency would also make the consoles 60Hz transformer less efficient. So it would be a try it to see if it works thing.
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: nybuck on August 06, 2010, 07:56:10 PM
The motion sensors are battery powered, so they would probably work   :D

They send the signal via RF, and different countries use different bands   :(

It might work, but he already said he couldn't return them.....

Also, I wonder if the "free shipping" deal holds true overseas......  (I'm thinking not)
Title: Re: what's different between PS561SD and PS561
Post by: Brian H on August 06, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
Our 310MHz RF frequency modules will not work with overseas devices but should be fine with US designed modules.
Most of the overseas units are 433.92MHz.

Not sure if he ordered the stuff yet. As I thought he asked if giving his Credit Card Number over the phone was OK.