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Title: CFL's and X10 AHP?
Post by: calldrin on September 14, 2010, 07:35:33 PM

Since the old filament light bulbs are soon being outlawed by our "Know what is better for us Big Brother" ..

What are we going to use for a dimming light bulb?

Do we have to stock-up on a lifetime quantity of the old bulbs?

What are you going to do?

Chuck

Title: Re: CFL's and X10 AHP?
Post by: dave w on September 14, 2010, 08:12:12 PM

I'm going to vote for the first person who says they will defund the EPA.

Title: Re: CFL's and X10 AHP?
Post by: Brian H on September 15, 2010, 06:28:19 AM

The bulb manufacturers are working on bulbs that meet the new effency standards and compatible to the older ones.
Incadescent bulbs are not baned outright; if they can meet the new standards. Could be a big if.

The CFL; CCFL and LED manufacturers want to push the idea that incandescents are baned outright but they are not.

Though I have seen users in automation forums. Buying cases of bulbs while they can.

Title: Re: CFL's and X10 AHP?
Post by: Msradell on September 18, 2010, 08:52:45 PM

Quote from: Brian H on September 15, 2010, 06:28:19 AM

Incadescent bulbs are not baned outright; if they can meet the new standards. Could be a big if.

The technology for incandescent bulbs is too antiquated, they will never be able to meet the new standards!  It was a sneaky way of not saying they are banned while in reality banning them.  They are so far from eating the standard nobody is even working on their technology.

Title: Re: CFL's and X10 AHP?
Post by: Dr.Fiero on September 18, 2010, 09:13:49 PM

Guess it'd be no different than saying that gasoline powered cars aren't banned. 
But they have to get no less than 200mpg.
(etc etc)
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Title: Re: CFL's and X10 AHP?
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 18, 2010, 10:03:13 PM

Quote from: Msradell on September 18, 2010, 08:52:45 PM

Quote from: Brian H on September 15, 2010, 06:28:19 AM

Incadescent bulbs are not baned outright; if they can meet the new standards. Could be a big if.

The technology for incandescent bulbs is too antiquated, they will never be able to meet the new standards!  It was a sneaky way of not saying they are banned while in reality banning them.  They are so far from eating the standard nobody is even working on their technology.

Don't bet the farm on that.  Incandescent bulbs are NOT going to go away tomorrow, and the technology can be adapted to meet the "new" standards as they have been for nearly 100 years.  CFLs will probably be banned in a few years since they use mercury and city and county trash/recycling cannot take them, the only recourse is to bury them.

Title: Re: CFL's and X10 AHP?
Post by: Brian H on September 19, 2010, 10:20:23 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/business/energy-environment/06bulbs.html?_r=1
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6162567-7.html?part=rss&tag=2327-10784-0&subj=news&tag=cnetfd.blog