Is it possible to use the remote chime (sc546a) as an additional arm/disarm chime on the ps561?
I would think you could use AHP with OnAlert and map your security remote.
Use a security macro to set off your chime module when AHP see your remotes arm command.
I should have mentioned, I'm not using AHP. I only have the security system.
I've seen the posts that talk about watching the light flash when the system is armed, or using a floodlight. But I wanted something additional to know when the system is disarmed. I just installed the system last night and this morning my daughter left for work. She disarmed the system, went out and rearmed the system with the keychain remote. She needed to come back in for something, pressed the disarm but didn't know if the system was disarmed. Well, it wasn't and she woke the whole house up at 4:30 this morning.
So it would be really nice to have an audible or visual confirmation that can be heard or seen from the outside.
BTW, we want the system to be instant. For details I do not want to mention, my youngest daughter had a tramadic event happen to her which is why we got the system. She couldn't sleep at night because she swore the front door was opening several times a night. Last night was the first good night sleep she had for weeks. Till the false alarm at 4:30.
Don't know the X10 security stuff but is it possible to integrate a socket rocket somehow? I put one in my front porch
light. When I activate my little AHP security macro, the have the socket rocket toggle on/off twice so I know it took.
I know you don't have AHP but maybe the security console sends a PLC when armed/disarmed.
I have several outdoor lights that flash on and off when the system is armed, but it does not do this when disarmed.
Plugging in a chime module set to the base units house and unit code, it does go off when I arm the system, but I'm not sure without AHP/OnAlert how you might send a signal for a disarm command.
Quote from: lviper on December 01, 2010, 12:34:16 PM
Is it possible to use the remote chime (sc546a) as an additional arm/disarm chime on the ps561?
No. Based on your last post, you are looking for the chime when disarmed. The PS561/DS7000 does not send out any powerline codes (what sets off the chime) upon disarm.
What you want, could be "hacked" into the PS561. It would void any warrenty, but you would essentially use the Armed LED to trigger an X10 Power Flash to turn on an external light indicating the system is armed. If interested in pursuing this I can get more detailed, however somewhere in the archives there is a post for extending the "ARM" indicator to a remote location. As I recall the mod was a remote LED hardwired to the PS561.
Found it:
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=12761.0
Quote from: dave w on December 01, 2010, 02:19:12 PM
What you want, could be "hacked" into the PS561. It would void any warrenty, but you would essentially use the Armed LED to trigger an X10 Power Flash to turn on an external light indicating the system is armed. If interested in pursuing this I can get more detailed, however somewhere in the archives there is a post for extending the "ARM" indicator to a remote location. As I recall the mod was a remote LED hardwired to the PS561.
I thought about that, wasn't sure how to do it. How hard would it be?
From the other replies, if it can be done with AHP, guess now would be a good time to get the promo on AHP with the interface for $30.
Hmmm, how's this:
Your keychain remote is R.F. and is sending a signal to the security console. Now I wonder if you could get
a simple TM751 or RR501, set it to the same HC/UC to which the keychain remote is set. Then when you arm, the TM751
could send the PLC to a socket rocket....when disarmed, the TM751 would send to PLC Off to the rocket.
here's hoping anyway :)
Edit: Sorry, for this application, better to use the RR501 instead of the TM751...
Quote from: troll334 on December 01, 2010, 02:25:13 PM
Hmmm, how's this:
Your keychain remote is R.F. and is sending a signal to the security console. Now I wonder if you could get
a simple TM751 or RR501, set it to the same HC/UC to which the keychain remote is set. Then when you arm, the TM751
could send the PLC to a socket rocket....when disarmed, the TM751 would send to PLC Off to the rocket.
here's hoping anyway :)
Edit: Sorry, for this application, better to use the RR501 instead of the TM751...
Good idea, but the X10 secuity RF signal has completely different coding. The TM751 and RR501 are oblivious to the Securty System remotes, sensors, and motion detector's RF signals.
QuoteFrom the other replies, if it can be done with AHP, guess now would be a good time to get the promo on AHP with the interface for $30.
If you go this route, you will want to ensure the kit includes the OnAlert plug-in.
Quote from: troll334 on December 01, 2010, 02:25:13 PM
.... I wonder if you could get a simple TM751 or RR501, set it to the same HC/UC to which the keychain remote is set. Then when you arm, the TM751 could send the PLC to a socket rocket....when disarmed, the TM751 would send to PLC Off to the rocket.
No... its like
dave w states
"The PS561/DS7000 does not send out any powerline codes (what sets off the chime) upon disarm." I use a chime set to my console H/U address at a location [where I can't hear the console's chime] to remind me I've trigger the alarm. But that's ALL it does.
Quote from: dave w on December 01, 2010, 02:19:12 PM
No.
...... What you want, could be "hacked"..... there is a post for extending the "ARM" indicator to a remote location. As I recall the mod was a remote LED hardwired to the PS561.
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=12761.0
If you do use
Puck's remote light hack... you could then use an "eye' sensor hack that allows the LED to trigger the photo sensor of an active eye motion sensor. Sending a RF on/off signal.
Or... you could use
a $3 yard sale baby monitor fix (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=20514.msg115687#msg115687) With the sending unit (baby side) at the console and the listening unit at your desired location. Then you can hear the consoles chime.
Okay, I'm out :)
Thanks for handling that nicely Dave W. My ignorance shines. I do have to say though, it is obvious that
engineering, marketing, and the bean-counters at X10 must have gotten together on that one :) Gotta buy more
'stuff'. rofl
Quote from: Dave_x10_L on December 01, 2010, 02:58:39 PM
Or... you could use a $2 yard sale baby monitor with the sending unit (baby side) at the console and the listening unit at your desired location. Then you can hear the consoles chime.
I just finished reading that post. Funny but effective.
Quote from: J.B. on December 01, 2010, 02:58:09 PM
QuoteFrom the other replies, if it can be done with AHP, guess now would be a good time to get the promo on AHP with the interface for $30.
If you go this route, you will want to ensure the kit includes the OnAlert plug-in.
$50 and I get all plugins plus some modules. Not a bad deal. And I wouldn't need to void my warranty either.
Quote from: troll334 on December 01, 2010, 03:01:07 PM
Okay, I'm out :)
Thanks for handling that nicely Dave W. My ignorance shines. I do have to say though, it is obvious that
engineering, marketing, and the bean-counters at X10 must have gotten together on that one :) Gotta buy more
'stuff'. rofl
No ignorance. It was a great idea. You are right. Obviously X10 Marketing / bean counters saw it coming. ;)
In fairness to X10; it would have created problems to allow security sensors and X10 RF remote controls to use the same protocols.
Quote from: lviper on December 01, 2010, 03:03:52 PM
From the other replies, if it can be done with AHP, guess now would be a good time to get the promo on AHP with the interface for $30.
Quote from: J.B. on December 01, 2010, 02:58:09 PM
$50 and I get all plugins plus some modules. Not a bad deal. And I wouldn't need to void my warranty either.
The CM15A interface will need to connected to a running computer any time you wish to use the OnAlert part of the AHP software. Generally that means running a PC 24/7. I do that with my Home Automation PC setup... and what it allows me to do is really pretty awesome. Some people worry about the small amount of electric used running a PC 24/7.
Quote from: Dave_x10_L on December 01, 2010, 03:34:18 PM
The CM15A interface will need to connected to a running computer any time you wish to use the OnAlert part of the AHP software. Generally that means running a PC 24/7. I do that with my Home Automation PC setup... and what it allows me to do is really pretty awesome.
I have way too many computers in the house and they all run 24/7. I think I will put this software on my jukebox that has a touchscreen.
Quote from: lviper on December 01, 2010, 03:36:18 PM
I have way too many computers in the house and they all run 24/7. I think I will put this software on my jukebox that has a touchscreen.
Well.... you should check out
my BVC fan Page (http://davesdomainonline.com/bvc/bvc.htm).
Quote from: Dave_x10_L on December 01, 2010, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: lviper on December 01, 2010, 03:36:18 PM
I have way too many computers in the house and they all run 24/7. I think I will put this software on my jukebox that has a touchscreen.
Well.... you should check out my BVC fan Page (http://davesdomainonline.com/bvc/bvc.htm).
Wow, cool stuff. And my wife calls me a geek now. Wonder what she would call me with that?
Guess I could program the system to respond to the word geek and start playing havoc by flashing all the lights on and off..... rofl
Quote from: lviper on December 01, 2010, 04:05:29 PM
Wow, cool stuff. And my wife calls me a geek now.
Bill has a
free trial download at his Site (http://www.wgjohns.com/bvc.htm). Of course...
read and follow directions (no safety glasses required!)