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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Troubleshooting Automation Problems => Topic started by: onarock on January 29, 2011, 06:23:49 PM

Title: Need Help with WS13A & WS14A connections
Post by: onarock on January 29, 2011, 06:23:49 PM

Hi,

I need help.

I trying to wire up a WS13A with the companion WS14A.  The printed instructions are a bit lacking...  But then again I'm not a qualified electrician.

The situation in switch box 1:
Three bundles of wires:
- bundle 1 (power in): black and white - black is "live" wire
 call them 1-b and and 1-w
- bundle 2 (to lights): black and white
 call them 2-b and and 2-w
- bundle 3 (to other box): black, white, and red
 call them 3-b, 3-w, and 3-r

The situation in switch box 2:
- One bundle ("3" above), three wires: black, white, and red

Box 2 is easy - use WS14A, black to Live, red to Control,
and white to other Live (correct?)

Box 1 is the problem for me - use WS13A
Using notation above to be concise:
1-b and 3-b to Live
1-w and 2-w to Neutral
3-r to Control

Where to connect 2-b and 3-w?  Both to Load?  I'm a bit confused and I don't get enough information from the instructions, as it only shows one traveler wire connection.

Thanks,

Walter

Title: Re: Need Help with WS13A & WS14A connections
Post by: dave w on January 30, 2011, 06:10:45 PM

IS 1-w THE nuetral? If it isn't the WS13A will not work.
This doesn't compute.
Bundle 3 appears to be the 3-way connections to the two 3-way switches you are replacing with the WS13A and WS14A, so is bundle #1 and bundle #2 to other switches?

Title: Re: Need Help with WS13A & WS14A connections
Post by: onarock on January 30, 2011, 06:56:16 PM

Hi Dave,

Yes, bundle 3 is between the switch boxes.  Bundle 1 is the incoming power and neutral; bundle 2 goes to the lights.

I kinda got it to work by leaving the white wire in bundle 3 (3-w) unconnected, with 2-b connected to WS13A's Load, essentially omitting WS14A (the companion switch).

The WS14A doesn't light or work, but I can turn the WS13A on and off manually, and with a controller unit.  I'm not sure why the HAP didn't turn it on, but that's another problem.

Walter

Title: Re: Need Help with WS13A & WS14A connections
Post by: dave w on January 30, 2011, 07:21:36 PM

Quote from: onarock on January 30, 2011, 06:56:16 PM

The WS14A doesn't light or work, but I can turn the WS13A on and off manually, and with a controller unit. 

Well you have half of it licked. The LED on the WS14A does not work, only X10 knows why. I think the instructions even call it "Inactive".
Anywho, see if this will help.

http://www.hometoys.com/htinews/dec97/articles/kingery/kingery6.htm
http://www.x10pro.com/pro/pdf/xps3.pdf
http://www.x10pro.com/pro/pdf/xpss.pdf