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Title: WS467 wall switch with LED bulbs?
Post by: Msradell on February 29, 2012, 05:07:58 PM

Is anybody using a WS467 wall switch with LED bulbs?  If so what is the minimum wattage of the bulbs required for the switch to work correctly?  I want to replace all of my outdoor lights with energy efficient ones but the one to pay the high price of difference switches.

Thanks!

Title: Re: WS467 wall switch with LED bulbs?
Post by: Brian H on February 29, 2012, 06:15:33 PM

The WS467 steals power through the load and is made for incandescent bulbs.
I have not see anyone having much success with LED bulbs. Some have use one incandescent bulb in the mix but it is vary chancy and some LED bulbs make so much noise on a dimmer. They kills the X10 signals.

Title: Re: WS467 wall switch with LED bulbs?
Post by: Msradell on February 29, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

Quote from: Brian H on February 29, 2012, 06:15:33 PM

The WS467 steals power through the load and is made for incandescent bulbs.
I have not see anyone having much success with LED bulbs. Some have use one incandescent bulb in the mix but it is vary chancy and some LED bulbs make so much noise on a dimmer. They kills the X10 signals.

I've read for some people are using LED with dimmer modules which is basically the same thing, that's why I was asking.  I'm presently using one incandescent bulb in a mix with CFL bulbs but I'm looking towards the future.

Title: Re: WS467 wall switch with LED bulbs?
Post by: dave w on February 29, 2012, 07:49:42 PM

Quote from: Msradell on February 29, 2012, 06:50:24 PM

[I've read for some people are using LED with dimmer modules which is basically the same thing,

No. An X10, two wire dimmer wall switch, is a different animal. It needs power 100% of the time for the PLC electronics to "listen" for X10 commands on the power line. You will need an incandescent bulb in the circuit to supply that power. Most CFL and LED bulbs will not pass that power. If you have several fixtures fed from one switch, leave an incandescent bulb in one of them and the switch will be happy.

Title: Re: WS467 wall switch with LED bulbs?
Post by: Brian H on March 01, 2012, 07:18:20 AM

I did a few tests.

Dimmable LED Bulbs: EcoSmart ECS 19W WW 120, Philips 12E26A60 EnduraLED.

40 Watt incandescent bulb.

Two Wire Dimmers: Old GE Manual toggle, X10 WS467, X10 WS12A.

GE dimmer. OK with all bulbs.

X10 WS467  Ecosmart Pulsed and flickered no control. With 40 watt bulb. OK but not dimming all the way down.
                 Philips  OK but would not dim all the way and always glows. With 40 watt bulb same.
X10 WS12A  Ecosmart Pulsed and flickered no control. With 40 watt bulb Local button OK, Power line X10 NG.
                 Philips  OK but would not dim all the way and always glows. With 40 watt bulb same.
 

Title: Re: WS467 wall switch with LED bulbs?
Post by: Msradell on March 01, 2012, 04:42:52 PM

Thanks for your feedback Brian!