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Title: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: CyberMario on May 26, 2012, 05:28:23 PM
hi there...

i want to know how can i use a MS14A for turn on a lamp (LM14A) when it detects no daylight and turn off in the morning, no motion detect as needed...i have activehome pro...thanks in advance

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Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: Dan Lawrence on May 27, 2012, 09:35:03 AM
The HawkEye and EagleEye Motion Sensors send Wireless Radio Frequency (RF) signals to an X10 Transceiver
(RR501 or TM751). The receiver then passes the signals onto your house wiring to turn on lights, appliances, or
X10 wireless cameras around your home. You plug your lights and appliances into X10 Modules (sold separately)

Hopefully, this is what you need to know.
Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: CyberMario on May 27, 2012, 12:04:05 PM
hi dan, thanks for reply

you describe me how works the sensor, but i need to know how to use it for day/night switching for a lamp module, thats all, like a photocell...  ???
Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: dave w on May 27, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
Read "To turn additional lights on when it gets dark"

http://software.x10.com/pub/manuals/ms13a-ms14a-is.pdf

The MS14 Unit Code plus 1 is the code for dusk to dawn control.
Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: Brian H on May 27, 2012, 04:11:44 PM
Since you have AHP the CM15A should transceive the MS14As command back to the power lines or you could get fancy and trigger a macro from the MS14A
Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: nybuck on May 28, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
The motion sensor will send an ON command on the unit code you set into the motion sensor when it sees motion.  [Default A1]
The motion sensor will send an OFF command x minutes later, depending on the delay you set.

The motion sensor will send an ON command when it sees darkness on the unit code you set PLUS ONE.  [Default A2]
The motion sensor will send an OFF command when it sees light on the unit code you set PLUS ONE.

I use the MS16A, but the MS14A knowledgebase reads the same.  It is automatic, no setting required.
I hope that answers your question.
Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: CyberMario on May 28, 2012, 11:09:16 AM
Since you have AHP the CM15A should transceive the MS14As command back to the power lines or you could get fancy and trigger a macro from the MS14A


how can i create a macro, i dont undestand how to filter the dusk/dawn event...  :P
Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: CyberMario on May 28, 2012, 11:12:00 AM
The motion sensor will send an ON command on the unit code you set into the motion sensor when it sees motion.  [Default A1]
The motion sensor will send an OFF command x minutes later, depending on the delay you set.

The motion sensor will send an ON command when it sees darkness on the unit code you set PLUS ONE.  [Default A2]
The motion sensor will send an OFF command when it sees light on the unit code you set PLUS ONE.

I use the MS16A, but the MS14A knowledgebase reads the same.  It is automatic, no setting required.
I hope that answers your question.

if i got the motion sensor in A3, i need to put the lamp module in A4? is that i undestood...all of this by default

so, if i have more modules installed, i need to move all for get free the next at sensor module or can i change it using ahp or another way?
Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: CyberMario on May 28, 2012, 11:14:16 AM
Read "To turn additional lights on when it gets dark"

http://software.x10.com/pub/manuals/ms13a-ms14a-is.pdf

The MS14 Unit Code plus 1 is the code for dusk to dawn control.


thanks for the pdf  #:)
Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: nybuck on May 28, 2012, 12:54:08 PM
if i got the motion sensor in A3, i need to put the lamp module in A4? is that i undestood...all of this by default

so, if i have more modules installed, i need to move all for get free the next at sensor module or can i change it using ahp or another way?
Yes -
Whatever you choose for your motion sensor, it will switch the next one on at dusk, off at dawn - say motion sensor set for A3, the lamp module will be A4, ON at night, off during the day.

And yes, you would need to keep A3 and A4 off of other modules, or they will be switched by the motion sensor.  A3 on motion, A4 on daylight.

I don't have a lot of experience doing these type of things in ActiveHome Pro, but the above has worked for me for years - no AHP required.   ;D
Title: Re: uses a MS14A as day/night sensor
Post by: CyberMario on May 28, 2012, 12:56:36 PM
if i got the motion sensor in A3, i need to put the lamp module in A4? is that i undestood...all of this by default

so, if i have more modules installed, i need to move all for get free the next at sensor module or can i change it using ahp or another way?
Yes -
Whatever you choose for your motion sensor, it will switch the next one on at dusk, off at dawn - say motion sensor set for A3, the lamp module will be A4, ON at night, off during the day.

And yes, you would need to keep A3 and A4 off of other modules, or they will be switched by the motion sensor.  A3 on motion, A4 on daylight.

I don't have a lot of experience doing these type of things in ActiveHome Pro, but the above has worked for me for years - no AHP required.   ;D

thanks nybuck! i will try this at afternoon...and i will post whats happened