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Title: looking for switches that support x10 protocol with 2way communication
Post by: kenrad on November 19, 2012, 11:37:04 PM
HI guys I am looking for x10 switches that will report local change.  I know insteon had some for awhile but it seems they were discontinued I ordered a fewabout a year ago and cant seem to find any.  I know x10 doesn't make a switch that supports local status change but are there any insteon switches out there yet that will accept x10 protocol and report local change

Thanks

Kenrad
Title: Re: looking for switches that support x10 protocol with 2way communication
Post by: JeffVolp on November 20, 2012, 12:49:37 AM
The only one I am familiar with is the Leviton HCM06-1TW:

http://www.smarthome.com/4289/Leviton-Scene-Capable-X10-Dimmer-Switches-HCM06-1TW/p.aspx

Jeff
Title: Re: looking for switches that support x10 protocol with 2way communication
Post by: Brian H on November 20, 2012, 06:06:33 AM
The Insteon 2476 Insteon series and 2876 Icon series are gone as you have found and yes X10 support is slowly vanishing from the Insteon line.
They are replaced by the 2477 series that is Insteon Dual Band. They communicate by power line and RF for Insteon commands and power line only for X10. All four I have linked to. Do list X10 support.
Decorator:
http://www.smarthome.com/2477D/SwitchLinc-INSTEON-Remote-Control-Dimmer-Dual-Band-White/p.aspx
http://www.smarthome.com/2477S/SwitchLinc-On-Off-INSTEON-Remote-Control-Switch-Dual-Band-White/p.aspx
Note there are reports their new Snow White Trim doesn't seem to match anyones cover plates.
Toggle:
http://www.smarthome.com/2466DW/ToggleLinc-Dimmer-INSTEON-Remote-Control-Dimmer-Switch-White/p.aspx
http://www.smarthome.com/2466SW/ToggleLinc-Relay-INSTEON-Remote-Control-On-Off-Switch-Non-Dimming-White/p.aspx
Title: Re: looking for switches that support x10 protocol with 2way communication
Post by: dhouston on November 20, 2012, 06:40:58 AM
Under local control, the Insteon switches Brian lists send a standard Off code but send preset dim levels for other changes. I don't use AHP so do not know whether it will report the 32 level preset dim codes. While X10 defined them, they never implemented them and recent protocol documentation omits them.
Title: Re: looking for switches that support x10 protocol with 2way communication
Post by: kenrad on November 20, 2012, 11:57:36 AM
Quote from: dhouston on November 20, 2012, 06:40:58 AM
Under local control, the Insteon switches Brian lists send a standard Off code but send preset dim levels for other changes. I don't use AHP so do not know whether it will report the 32 level preset dim codes. While X10 defined them, they never implemented them and recent protocol documentation omits them.

Thanks for the quick reply guys.  I am wondering with it sending dim level for other changes will AHP at leas know if the switch is on or off it is not as important that it knows the level as much as if it is on or off

Thanks again
Kenrad
Title: Re: looking for switches that support x10 protocol with 2way communication
Post by: Brian H on November 20, 2012, 03:20:51 PM
The relay styles. Report On and Off.
The dimmers send an On and Off when full Off or full On.
Only thing AHP does not understand is the preset dims and will not control the dimmers correctly.
Been awhile but I believe if you define the dimmers in the Old Before Soft Start.
When you set their level. AHP turns the full on and send a set of dim commands.