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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Troubleshooting Automation Problems => Topic started by: jlp on December 08, 2012, 08:52:59 AM

Title: LED BEAM
Post by: jlp on December 08, 2012, 08:52:59 AM
I wanted to share my experience. I have several LED beam since one year and it works very well. I added another LED yesterday and suddenly my system has stopped working. I restarted my PC, replaced my CM15A, removed my XTBIIR, but nothing worked. I installed my home automation system on another PC, and nothing worked either. Then I thought to remove the new LED BEAM and everything started to work normally. Now, before you add a LED BEAM, I'll test it before.
Title: Re: LED BEAM
Post by: Brian H on December 08, 2012, 10:11:05 AM
When your system suddenly goes down. After just installing or moving any electronic or electrical devices.
Always suspect what you just did as a good chance of being your problem.

Right after the holidays. With all the new electronic goodies. We may get a flood of "My X10 System just went down the drain" type messages here.
Title: Re: LED BEAM
Post by: dave w on December 08, 2012, 10:47:45 AM
I wanted to share my experience. I have several LED beam since one year and it works very well.
Might help to know what is an "LED beam" is?? Did it crash AHP, or just stop communications.
Title: Re: LED BEAM
Post by: jlp on December 08, 2012, 11:33:06 AM
I bought Luminus LED Dimmable 15W bulb to replace an outer bulb of 100W (I have 7 LED bulbs and no problem). I installed it in the morning. Yesterday evening, when the motion sensor turn ON LED bulb, my home automation system stopped work. I suspect a high level of electrical noise generated by the LED. I even installed my CM15A into the same outlet as a module AM466 and the signal did not pass. However, cm15a was 40 feet of Luminus LED Dimmable 15W bulb  at the other end of the house.

My system has not crashed. Rather it is the communication that did not pass over. The red led XTBIIR flashed constantly. I opened the breaker and then closed it a few minutes later and he began to flash almost immediately.
Title: Re: LED BEAM
Post by: dave w on December 08, 2012, 03:21:07 PM
I bought Luminus LED Dimmable 15W bulb to replace an outer bulb of 100W
Well now I know what an "LED beam" is. I guess we can assume that "Luminous" brand, dimmable bulbs are bulbs we should stay away from. Thank you for the info.

FWIW I have at least six LED spot light bulbs using five CREE 5W LED die each, so defiantly uses some type of power supply in the bulb. They are not noise makers. which means, like CFLs...some play nice and some don't. 
Thanks
Title: Re: LED BEAM
Post by: Noam on December 08, 2012, 09:14:19 PM
I guess we can assume that "Luminous" brand, dimmable bulbs are bulbs we should stay away from. Thank you for the info.
It might not be the entire line from that company, it might just be a single bad bulb (try one of the other working ones in that same spot instead).
Title: Re: LED BEAM
Post by: dave w on December 09, 2012, 02:51:18 PM
I guess we can assume that "Luminous" brand, dimmable bulbs are bulbs we should stay away from. Thank you for the info.
It might not be the entire line from that company, it might just be a single bad bulb (try one of the other working ones in that same spot instead).

Yes, If the OP's third addition bulb was the same brand and Lux as the original two, you are right, could be just a bad bypass cap in one unit.
Title: Re: LED BEAM
Post by: Brian H on December 09, 2012, 03:26:32 PM
Could also be a hardware revision on that model LED module.
I have a few Phillips 12.5 Watt EnduraLED dimmable LED Bulbs.
They made a hardware change in them. Original ones had eighteen LEDs in them. I believe the newer ones are 12 LEDs but have the same light output and probably a different electronic driver. Only way to tell the difference is a small-1 at the end of the part number.

The original EndureLED and the revised EnduraLED bulbs act differently in X10 Lamp Modules. Also differently in the older electronics Lamp Modules and the revised  electronics Soft Start Lamp Modules.