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Title: Code Conflict
Post by: racerfern on February 08, 2016, 08:58:56 PM
I've had this pop up a couple of times and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. First, I have a room called Codes To Avoid. In that room I have LM465 modules with A1-A16, and each module has as the name its housecode/lioghtcode. I do this because some of these codes may be in use by someone else in my area and lights tend to come on by themselves.

From B1 on appears to be fine. I installed the MS16A motion sensor and it came in at B13. But I want it to be C5. So I edit the module and I get a warning that the code is in use by A1. Screenshot attached. Any ideas???
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: Tuicemen on February 09, 2016, 09:25:59 AM
I've tried to recreate this but can't.
If I remember your running Windows10 64 bit.
I initialy had some strange things happening with AHP and this OS and this may be one thing which I missed prior to me remedying my issues.
If you have AHP installed in C:\Program Files (X86)\Activehome Pro, close AHP and move the ActiveHome Pro folder to C:\
Windows 10 64 bit has extra security beyond the 32 bit version which messes with programs read write permissions in ProgramFiles(x86)
Editing the permissions will help to some degree however it didn't work for all the issues I was seeing.
You may also look at setting the options for "multiple devices can use same address" in Tools/Preferences
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: racerfern on February 09, 2016, 05:57:20 PM
So you're saying I can "drag" the subfolder from where it is to the root and the program itself will not be affected? Or should I uninstall and then re-install into the suggested root?

Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: Tuicemen on February 09, 2016, 06:23:47 PM
You can just drag the folder or cut and paste, thats all I did.
You'll need to edit any shortcuts to AHP so they point to the new path.
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: racerfern on February 09, 2016, 06:26:23 PM
Here goes... thanks for the suggestion
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: racerfern on February 09, 2016, 07:46:45 PM
OK, that problem seems to have gone away...for now. Now my next issue. I have a brand new MS16A which sits quietly in a box. If I open the box, the unit sends the signal that I see in AHP. However, it keeps on sending the on signal over and over. Defective unit? Something else?

FWIW, I can remove the batteries, and reset it. Then it sits quietly until something triggers it then it keeps going and going. I imagine it would go until it kills the batteries.

Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: Tuicemen on February 09, 2016, 09:14:37 PM
It sounds like you haven't set the no motion delay time.
http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Active_Eye_Motion_Sensor_Setup
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: racerfern on February 09, 2016, 09:27:01 PM
I'll check this, but the instructions seem to indicate a default of one minute.
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: racerfern on February 10, 2016, 08:40:14 PM
The problem with the "Code Exists" came back but now I'm convinced it's a software issue. I can double click the name of the module and change it to anything I want. However, if I right click on the module, then select Edit Module I may or may not get the warning. So I edit the name directly and edit the file to change the housecode/lightcode to what I want. This is getting to be workaround after workaround. Seriously thinking about jumping ship. Sigh...
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: Tuicemen on February 11, 2016, 08:08:29 AM
The main problem is this is a old program made for Windows 98 a 32 bit OS issues began showing up when users started moving to 64 bit.
The Old X10WTI programers did their best to keep it working. It seems with every new 64 bit OS issues get worse. I have no issues with AHP on a 32 bit OS, however I've seen many issues on my 64 bit machines.
Workarrounds are common with this software and they go back to day one.
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: JeffVolp on February 11, 2016, 09:57:22 AM
The main problem is this is a old program made for Windows 98 a 32 bit OS issues began showing up when users started moving to 64 bit.

One of my engineering programs started to lock up when I updated to Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, and I had to run it in the XP compatibility mode.  So Microsoft changed something when they went to 64-bits.

In this case it was a $500 development program back in 2000.  That company was bought out by a competitor, and the product was killed off.  The last time I checked the alternative costs several thousand dollars.

The same thing happened with Quattro Pro running on Win 7 Pro 64-bit.  It runs in the XP compatibility mode, but even then sometimes the embedded macros do not save all the way down a column on a very large spreadsheet.

Of course the fix is to buy the new version of WordPerfect office, but I'm resistant to spend money to replace something that has been working fine all along - sort of like my X10 system.

Jeff
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: racerfern on February 11, 2016, 10:08:33 AM
Stirring memories, Quattro Pro, Lucid123, etc. Too bad because 95% of the stuff us mere mortals do barely needs 8 bits.
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: dhouston on February 11, 2016, 11:16:33 AM
Of course the fix is to buy the new version of WordPerfect office...

Have you tried LibreOffice? I've no idea whether it can handle your Quatro Pro files (a quick online search says it only handles QP v6) but it has handled everything I've thrown at it and the price is certainly hard to beat.
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: dhouston on February 11, 2016, 11:38:21 AM
Too bad because 95% of the stuff us mere mortals do barely needs 8 bits.

Speak for yourself! I'd like to think most of the things I do are worth more than a dollar.  ;)
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: racerfern on February 11, 2016, 08:03:55 PM
Well, here's 8 bits worth of learning the hard way. No more MS16A wildly repeating codes. At some point after 1275 constant on commands it stopped functioning and when I removed the battery cover I saw that the piece of paper with writing was out of place. I assumed that it was constantly pressing one of the buttons. And  -:) it hit me. I was tightening the battery cover screw a bit too tight and it was pressing the cover onto the ON button. I reset the unit and didn't install the cover with the 1/2" drive ratchet drive. :-[ Problem solved.

Now on to the next problem.
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: JeffVolp on February 12, 2016, 10:11:26 AM
Have you tried LibreOffice?

No, I haven't.  I used Reflex back in the DOS era.  We had Excel at the Lab, but I chose Quattro for myself because it would import the Reflex files.  WP Office was a fraction of the cost of Excel, and it also included the Paradox database program.

Most of our computers are still running XP, so these old programs still run fine.  Some get cranky on the Window 7 system.  I can only assume things will get worse if I eventually upgrade to 10.

Jeff
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: dhouston on February 12, 2016, 11:22:55 AM
Have you tried LibreOffice?
No, I haven't. 
It's probably worthwhile to install and try. Even if you have older file formats that it doesn't support, it's a better choice for the future and it's free. However, I no longer have any machines running XP so don't know how it will do on your machines - you can get the XP compatible version at...
http://www.oldapps.com/libreoffice.php?system=Windows_XP (http://www.oldapps.com/libreoffice.php?system=Windows_XP)
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: JeffVolp on February 12, 2016, 11:30:11 AM
you can get the XP compatible version at...
http://www.oldapps.com/libreoffice.php?system=Windows_XP (http://www.oldapps.com/libreoffice.php?system=Windows_XP)

I just tried, but my virus protection blocked the download and said:

This web page at download.oldapps.com has been reported to contain unwanted software and has been blocked based on your security preferences.

Jeff
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: dhouston on February 12, 2016, 01:48:46 PM
I just tried, but my virus protection blocked the download and said:

This web page at download.oldapps.com has been reported to contain unwanted software and has been blocked based on your security preferences.

Sorry - I use W7 & W10 so never needed to try that site. Sites that add unwanted/undesirable apps to downloads are an increasing problem - i've seen the same warning a few times recently.
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: dave w on February 13, 2016, 03:42:21 PM
Don't know if it will import Quattro, but Open Office is open source and is pretty good. Comes with word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, math, drawing, and database, software modules. I tried earlier version and liked it, but quit using when I bought Mickeysoft Office 2010 cheap as an employer perk.

https://www.openoffice.org/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2010005/5-free-open-source-alternatives-to-microsoft-office.html
Title: Re: Code Conflict
Post by: dhouston on February 13, 2016, 08:02:24 PM
It does appear that OpenOffice (4.2 and above) can handle Quattro Pro files. I used it in the past but switched to LibreOffice because, like the LibreOffice developers, I wanted nothing to do with anything controlled by Larry Ellison. But, it appears he gave OpenOffice to The Apache Foundation so he no longer controls it.