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Title: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 21, 2006, 04:51:14 AM
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Too bad that there's NO ONE that I can report this to, or WORK WITH on solving...  :(

Reference: [HELP] Any Winternals/SysInternals Gurus Here???  (Read 640 times) (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=10171.0)

Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on October 24, 2006, 12:51:00 AM
When does this error occur?

"Access violation" sounds like ActiveHm.exe is attempting to access memory outside of its allocated range i.e. memory that is un-allocated, or memory that belongs to another running task (program).
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: tjdavj on October 24, 2006, 01:07:57 AM
TTA-

What is that last listed task:  _Total.exe  [I'm always suspicious of task/process that starts with a "_"]?

Also, what does the event log say?

Hope this helps..
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 25, 2006, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: tjdavj on October 24, 2006, 01:07:57 AM

What is that last listed task:  _Total.exe  [I'm always suspicious of task/process that starts with a "_"]?

Also, what does the event log say?

I:


My only *NEW* concern is that "something" just generated a Popup Window with an "Error during install - must reboot" (paraphrased).  ??? Thus, I've delayed the reboot until I've checked EVERYTHING that I wanted to check.

Quote from: tjdavj on October 24, 2006, 01:07:57 AM
Hope this helps..

Thanks for your ideas! :)

Are you familiar with the "Teddy Bear Troubleshooting Method"?  ;)

P.S. THANKS for posting your Intro in: GUESTS/LURKERS: Why Don't You Register (and Become NEWBIEs)?  (Read 959 times) (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=10503.0)! :)

In it, you stated: "...[and a big nudge from TTA], I will introduce myself...". But, if you check the current Members List, you'll see that there are *SEVERAL* other NEWBIEs, with 2 or more posts, that, *WITHOUT* my BUGGING / NAGGING / NUDGING,  haven't introduced themselves yet. :o What's a concerned Community Organizer to do?!? ??? :- ::) ;)
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 25, 2006, 09:47:57 PM
Quote from: -Bill- (of BXVC) on October 24, 2006, 12:51:00 AM

When does this error occur?

T O T A L L Y   R A N D O M ! ! !
 >:( :( :o ??? ::) :P :- :'(
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on October 25, 2006, 10:14:26 PM
Quote from: TakeTheActive on October 25, 2006, 09:47:57 PM
Quote from: -Bill- (of BXVC) on October 24, 2006, 12:51:00 AM

When does this error occur?

T O T A L L Y   R A N D O M ! ! !
 >:( :( :o ??? ::) :P :- :'(

Shh!   :-X    I think you've uncovered a secret Microsoft plot to force you to upgrade to XP!   ;)

Oh, no!  Now they'll be looking for me!    :o
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: Dan Lawrence on October 25, 2006, 11:03:06 PM
Bill,

It's not a secret Microsoft plot, they cut off support for all 9x O/S, including 98 and ME.   They also cut off support for DOS.

Wonder how the corporate world has taken the news, as a lot of companies run 9x on the workstations and some adavnced server O/S.
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: vhoang on October 25, 2006, 11:17:35 PM
Install .Net 2.0 Framework
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 25, 2006, 11:18:16 PM
Quote from: Dan Lawrence on October 25, 2006, 11:03:06 PM
...It's not a secret Microsoft plot, they cut off support for all 9x O/S, including 98 and ME.   They also cut off support for DOS.

Since I'm running AHP v3.204 under Win2K SP4, how is your comment applicable? ??? :-[

Quote from: TakeTheActive on October 21, 2006, 04:51:14 AM
  • *----> System Information <----*
            Computer Name: DELL4100
            User Name: 4100_Admin
            Number of Processors: 1
            Processor Type: x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 6
            Windows 2000 Version: 5.0
            Current Build: 2195
            Service Pack: 4
            Current Type: Uniprocessor Free
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Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 25, 2006, 11:20:30 PM
Quote from: vhoang on October 25, 2006, 11:17:35 PM

Install .Net 2.0 Framework

Why?   ???
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on October 25, 2006, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: Dan Lawrence on October 25, 2006, 11:03:06 PM
It's not a secret Microsoft plot, they cut off support for all 9x O/S, including 98 and ME.   They also cut off support for DOS.

I know.  Win 2000 is getting to that point too.  They do "announce" it as long as you know where to look (most people don't).

Quote from: Dan Lawrence on October 25, 2006, 11:03:06 PM
Wonder how the corporate world has taken the news, as a lot of companies run 9x on the workstations and some adavnced server O/S.

Well, the company I work for is still running Win98 (not even SE!) on most machines, Win ME on one and XP on only one!  Talk about a PITA for me to keep running!  But, the general attitude is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."  The Win ME machine will probably have to be replaced soon as it is connected to the internet, won't support Win XP and is now "out-of-the-loop" on Windows updates (unless MS chooses to release a "critical" update for Win ME.

Anyway, I was mostly joking.  I mean really, what incentive would Microsoft have to sabotage their own software?   ::)
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: Charles Sullivan on October 26, 2006, 04:07:04 AM
Quote from: -Bill- (of BXVC) on October 25, 2006, 11:27:34 PM
[Anyway, I was mostly joking.  I mean really, what incentive would Microsoft have to sabotage their own software?   ::)

Obviously to get you to spend another few hundred dollars for an OS upgrade.  (Not that I think they've actually done this that overtly.)

Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 26, 2006, 04:17:50 AM
Quote from: Charles Sullivan on October 26, 2006, 04:07:04 AM
Quote from: -Bill- (of BXVC) on October 25, 2006, 11:27:34 PM
[Anyway, I was mostly joking.  I mean really, what incentive would Microsoft have to sabotage their own software?   ::)

Obviously to get you to spend another few hundred dollars for an OS upgrade.  (Not that I think they've actually done this that overtly.)

Heh!  ;D

And since you're in the same TIMEZONE as me, EDT, *DOUBLE HEH* for being up at this ungodly hour!  ;D
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: Charles Sullivan on October 26, 2006, 04:46:25 AM
Quote from: TakeTheActive on October 26, 2006, 04:17:50 AM
Quote from: Charles Sullivan on October 26, 2006, 04:07:04 AM
Quote from: -Bill- (of BXVC) on October 25, 2006, 11:27:34 PM
[Anyway, I was mostly joking.  I mean really, what incentive would Microsoft have to sabotage their own software?   ::)

Obviously to get you to spend another few hundred dollars for an OS upgrade.  (Not that I think they've actually done this that overtly.)

Heh!  ;D

And since you're in the same TIMEZONE as me, EDT, *DOUBLE HEH* for being up at this ungodly hour!  ;D

Your assumption that you're communicating with a live human (as opposed to a machine - or something else) may not be correct.  :)


Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: TakeTheActive on October 26, 2006, 05:10:48 AM
Quote from: Charles Sullivan on October 26, 2006, 04:46:25 AM
Quote from: TakeTheActive on October 26, 2006, 04:17:50 AM
Quote from: Charles Sullivan on October 26, 2006, 04:07:04 AM
Quote from: -Bill- (of BXVC) on October 25, 2006, 11:27:34 PM
[Anyway, I was mostly joking.  I mean really, what incentive would Microsoft have to sabotage their own software?   ::)

Obviously to get you to spend another few hundred dollars for an OS upgrade.  (Not that I think they've actually done this that overtly.)

Heh!  ;D

And since you're in the same TIMEZONE as me, EDT, *DOUBLE HEH* for being up at this ungodly hour!  ;D

Your assumption that you're communicating with a live human (as opposed to a machine - or something else) may not be correct.  :)

After our previous (weeks/months ago) 90+ minute telephone conversation (on *MY* tab), I'm relatively confident that I'm conversing with another *HUMAN* ;D
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: vhoang on October 26, 2006, 08:07:23 AM
Quote from: TakeTheActive on October 25, 2006, 11:20:30 PM
Why?   ???

What's up with all the I must know how it works attitude?   It's a microsoft solution, just like
putting your computer on a weekly reboot cycle to free memory leaks.   Upgrades and reboots,
it's how most microsoft problems get fixed.. ::)

In all seriousness, I am suspecting a plug-in <-> ahp,  using .NET is causing your bug-a-boo.

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When a Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 application calls a function that contains more than eight hierarchical nested objects, the common language runtime (CLR) may fail, and you may receive an "Access Violation C0000005" error message during garbage collection. This behavior indicates that the managed heap is corrupted. Typically, this problem occurs when the PInvoke method is used incorrectly. Additionally, this problem occurs in a heavy load environment.
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CAUSE
This problem occurs because a value in the register is changed but cannot be restored when the .NET Framework 1.1 application calls a function that contains very complex hierarchical nested objects. The corruption is caused by an error in the just-in-time (JIT) complier. The code that the JIT compiler generates does not safeguard the register when the register is not changed.
Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: Charles Sullivan on October 26, 2006, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: TakeTheActive on October 26, 2006, 05:10:48 AM
And since you're in the same TIMEZONE as me, EDT, *DOUBLE HEH* for being up at this ungodly hour!  ;D[/size]
Quote from: Charles Sullivan on October 26, 2006, 04:46:25 AM
Your assumption that you're communicating with a live human (as opposed to a machine - or something else) may not be correct.  :)
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After our previous (weeks/months ago) 90+ minute telephone conversation (on *MY* tab), I'm relatively confident that I'm conversing with another *HUMAN* ;D

Only during daylight hours.  After the sun goes down you can't be sure.   ;)

Title: Re: [INTERESTING] Application exception occurred:
Post by: Oldtimer on October 26, 2006, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: vhoang on October 26, 2006, 08:07:23 AM
Quote from: TakeTheActive on October 25, 2006, 11:20:30 PM
Why?   ???

What's up with all the I must know how it works attitude?   It's a microsoft solution, just like
putting your computer on a weekly reboot cycle to free memory leaks.   Upgrades and reboots,
it's how most microsoft problems get fixed.. ::)

Weekly reboot?  You've got to be kidding!  I learned back with W3.1 that you should turn your computer off at least every night and reboot it the next moring.  If you're doing heavy work with your apps then maybe twice a day to be sure.  Windows accumulates garbage at an incredible rate and only a reboot will keep it humming.

To cite a human analogy, Edison was known to work long hours but he took many brief catnaps in the process.  In my opinion he was just giving his mind a chance to sort out and file away all the stuff he learned while he was awake.  I've worked as an independant consultant for years and therefore in more than usual control over my own time.  I learned long ago that a 10 minute catnap in the middle of an intense project was worth a good nights sleep in my productivity.

I don't think computers are anywhere near as complex as the human mind and therefore need their cleansing shut down and reboot even more than we do.