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💬General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tuicemen on November 13, 2006, 06:19:56 PM

Title: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 13, 2006, 06:19:56 PM
Simple enough! ::) ;) :D
 x10 installed this originally for special chats like the one with Dave Rye!
More special guest chats were promised but nothing has materialized! ::) :'(
As of now one can't even use it although it is visible to all! :'( :(
[li]Would this be beneficial to have for all users to use full time? ???[/li]

[li]Would newbies feel more like the "Cheers Gang" having the opportunity for a one on one in real time? ???[/li]

[li]Would it become a venue for X10 bashing and only use as that? ???[/li]

[li]Would You use it? ???[/li][/b]
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*Please comment*
I personally think this a great Idea!
I had always gone into it but never realized it wasn't working until lately as I started to get errors when I entered! :'(
Dave_x10_L confirmed this with his Wish List Post  "Topic: The CHAT ROOM" (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=10911.0)
I feel the benefits to having this up fulltime out weigh the cons
But thats only my thoughts!
I'd like to hear your Thoughts ??? as I'm sure so would the X10 Brass! ;) :D ;D
-*And they do read these threads!*-
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: KDR on November 13, 2006, 06:49:45 PM
I would like to see it working. It would be a fun place to hang out where everyone could get to know each other a little better. Maybe it would help others open up more and make them feel like they fit in.
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: MrBlackCat on November 13, 2006, 09:39:13 PM
Quote from: KDR on November 13, 2006, 06:49:45 PM
I would like to see it working. It would be a fun place to hang out where everyone could get to know each other a little better. Maybe it would help others open up more and make them feel like they fit in.

What if it causes more people to realize they don't fit in? :) (just kidding)

I would like to see a chat function here.  I think it could head off a LOT of "quick questions" that I see pop up as messages that takes seconds to answer, but the waits are great sometimes.

I see a Chat Room as really good method to relieve Message Board a little of the thousands of messages you have to wade through sometimes when doing searches for issues with extremely common X10 products.  It could leave the message system more available for detail oriented question/response.

I can see this as very functional in those situations where someone doesn't provide near enough or critical information about an issue.

MrBlackCat
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: HA Dave on November 13, 2006, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tuicemen on November 13, 2006, 06:19:56 PM
Simple enough! ::) ;) :D

Dave_x10_L confirmed this with his Wish List Post  "Topic: The CHAT ROOM" (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=10911.0)

I don't know if I shouldn't comment on this (because I wished for it)... or if it would be wrong if I didn't. But I think the chat room would be a nice place to visit, meet other X10 fans, and be helpful and reassuring for the newbies (or guests).

Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 13, 2006, 10:17:03 PM
Dave_x10_L:  I was hoping you would comment since you spured me to start this poll!
I have so many people that just e-mail me with questions because the responce time is quicker well the chat room would be even faster!
The longer it take one to resolve an issue the more irrate they become!
I'm sure the chat room would be full of "please help me!"
But X10s tech support Can't Help as quickly as the Community can ! ;) :D
Hey And using the Community won't cost them a cent! ;) :D
Vote numbers look good but Comments look even better! ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: HA Dave on November 13, 2006, 10:36:40 PM
Not only is the responce time quick.... but so MUCH info is already on the forum...many users are already overwhelmed. It would be nicer to reassure people that are slightly over their heads. And provide useable links (to the forum) for people with real problems.

I hate to actually say (well...type) this but so many people really hate to read. Sure they will read a line or two... chat rooms are ok. But many people get totally turned off with a page full page of fine print directions.

Plus .... chat rooms forget. If someone misspells words in a chat room.... or asks a less than cleaver question, tomorrow it's gone. Same way with a rant, it hangs for a few seconds or minutes, then it's gone.
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: MrBlackCat on November 13, 2006, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Dave_x10_L on November 13, 2006, 10:36:40 PM
...I hate to actually say (well...type) this but so many people really hate to read. Sure they will read a line or two... chat rooms are ok. But many people get totally turned off with a page full page of fine print directions...

I have to agree with you on this point Dave_x10_L...
To adapt an old saying to this line of thought... "Sometimes you just want to know what time it is, not how to build a watch."
However... there are some things about X10 that simply aren't "simple" answers... and I have seldom met an angry person that could hear or would listen to anything beyond a simple answer.

John Martin
MrBlackCat
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on November 13, 2006, 11:21:14 PM
I would like to see the chat room work.

"Chatting" back and forth with PM's is slow (at best) and sometimes it would be nice (especially for those of us who live  :-[ on this forum) to be able to just BS a little without it becoming a permanent record (ie: the Monty Python Spam skit  ;D :-[ ).

It would also be much more efficient when trying to answer someone who is online at the same time you are!

Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: ArtClark on November 14, 2006, 03:56:23 AM
I think the Chat room would be great.  I have seen people working on things and replying minutes later.  How neat it would be for them to be able to debug in real time while talking (Typing) about it.

Sure would enable simpler questions to be responded to much faster.

Honestly, I had no idea there ever was a chat area.
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: Puck on November 14, 2006, 02:27:37 PM
I agree with all about the chat room.

Maybe if it was running, I could have vented there and not Quit for a DAY  ::)
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: HA Dave on November 14, 2006, 05:50:47 PM
Quote from: Puck on November 14, 2006, 02:27:37 PM
I agree with all about the chat room.

Maybe if it was running, I could have vented there

Or we could have all vented and complained and praised..... and helped some newbies....and just had fun.
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 14, 2006, 09:53:25 PM
Humm? 1 NO vote Care to share your reason?
Is it Just that you wouldn't use it or is there some other reason?
Many would like to know! Even X10 Brass  might want to know! ;)
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: JimC on November 15, 2006, 06:50:08 AM
I think the chat room would be a great idea. Voice chat  would even be better. ;D
If it is started back up please don't make fun of us spelling challenged  individuals. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on November 15, 2006, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: JimC on November 15, 2006, 06:50:08 AM
I think the chat room would be a great idea. Voice chat  would even be better. ;D
If it is started back up please don't make fun of us spelling challenged  individuals. ;) ;)


I really miss exite voice chat!  Their karaoke rooms were fun!   ;D   :-[
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: TakeTheActive on November 21, 2006, 09:20:55 PM
OK. A CHAT ROOM has been available since 11/17/06 - in fact, TTA's "Community" Chat Room (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=10949.0) offers *MUCH MORE* than SMF's CHAT could ever imagine:

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But, has EVERYONE who voiced a POSITIVE post in *THIS* thread JOINED?

According to STOP Watching Paint Dry / Grass Grow & JOIN TTA's "Community" Chat Today!  (Read 272 times) (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=10949.0), it doesn't appear so. ???
How is this CHAT ROOM 'concept' actually working out?


*ALL* feedback, both POSITIVE and NEGATIVE, is certainly appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: KDR on November 22, 2006, 05:42:04 AM
See my last post in Re: STOP Watching Paint Dry / Grass Grow & JOIN TTA's "Community" Chat Today!  (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=10949.msg62821#msg62821)

Another thought is... if you can't get a newbie to search these boards how do you get them to sign up on Yahoo? (Just thinking out loud)

Oh and by the way I just tried to go into the boards chat room and I still get an error.
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: Dan Lawrence on November 22, 2006, 07:47:03 AM
X10 doesn't seem to be interested in reopening the chat room, so TTA created a chat room on Yahoo! Chats.
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 22, 2006, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: TakeTheActive on November 21, 2006, 09:20:55 PM
But, has EVERYONE who voiced a POSITIVE post in *THIS* thread JOINED?

How is this CHAT ROOM 'concept' actually working out?

  • Have any NEWBIEs benefited from it yet?
  • How many "Oldtimers " have VOLUNTEERED?
  • Has anyone had a problem getting it to work for them?

*ALL* feedback, both POSITIVE and NEGATIVE, is certainly appreciated. :)
Besides KDRs outloud thought! ;)
newbies have a hard time finding information here when searching (if they do)!
When the chat room is never the same room ( 1 of a possible 3 or 6)a newbie will give up real quick
I tried to create a user room on yahoo as did Puck without success!
If you could point a user to a specific room then it may fly better!
Many oldtimers have One maybe two chat programs on their PC and don't wish to add any more!
I as well didn't wish to add it but thought I'd give it a go till X10 either got this chat room up and running again or deleted it from the site! ;)
Some have had problems getting it to work and manytimes your ID is already in use!
Which brings up another issue for a newbie! ::) ;) :D ;D
TTA a good attempt at an alternative to this but Other than the Cheers Gang I can't see anyone else testing the waters!
I hope I'm wrong! :D ;D
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: HA Dave on December 02, 2006, 11:06:48 AM
I am really enjoying the Yahoo Chat Room(s)! Getting to know you "big brain" guys has been both rewarding and pleasureful.

Thank you......ALL
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: Tuicemen on December 02, 2006, 11:32:51 AM
LOL yes the Yahoo Chat is proving usefull! instant answers.
To bad X10 is so slow at getting theirs back up!
I missed sitting in on them this last week(worked nights) everyone was off line when I got home.
Each time I'm in the room I learn something new (think my head is starting to swell) ;) :D The weekend chats should be interesting.

Hey everyone come sit in on a Yahoo chat and see how much you learn! Then if you feel it's worth while  get on Yahoo & x10 for a chat room!
Currently we're on Yahoo in  Computers & Internet in an Electronics Room hopefuly soon we'll have a HomeAutomation room   with users help! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: steinie44 on December 03, 2006, 07:36:38 AM
Bring-R-Back   and lets all join-in!
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: Tuicemen on December 21, 2006, 08:21:08 PM
The X10 Chat room would be a better option but Yahoo works for now! ;) :D ;D
So no need to guess if someone is online and free to chat! ;) :D ;D

Note: The little smilly face under a users avatar indicates they have Yahoo when it is yellow they're online
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: hostilejava on December 21, 2006, 08:31:07 PM
We use an AIM chat on the other forum I moderate. We have a stickied thread linking to it in the General section and then people can post that they are in there and request help.  At the end of everyday the thread get's clean up exeptt for the first post and the last few posts.   I have a shortcut to it on my destkop.  Just create a internet shortcut and paste this into it or copy it into your web browser address bar(only works with IE): 

aim:GoChat?RoomName=x10community

For trillian put this:

aim:GoChat?RoomName=x10community&Exchange =4

You can name it whatever you like and it will create a room based on that and then when others click on the link they will join that same chat or they can also be invited in.

Unfortionately I don't have yahoo or I"d probably join you guys in your chat.  I just don't want to sign up and load another chat IM app on my machines.  Please don't take this as me trying to step on anyone's toes, I"m just suggesting an alternative that might be easier for some users, since I know alot of people use AIM.
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: hostilejava on December 23, 2006, 06:53:17 PM
Actually you can only launch through the aim browser bar, however if you create a desktop shortcut it won't matter what browser you use.
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: Tuicemen on June 13, 2007, 11:48:29 AM
Since neither X10 nor Yahoo felt it was beneficial to have a dedicated Chat room KDR  has gone out of his way to create one!
You need Java installed on your PC Most sites require this now anyways!
Since using Yahoo chat I as well as others have helped many X10 users and some non x10ers with setups!
So the concept is good too bad it isn't used more by more! ;) :D ;D
In any case you may now find me  when on line to chat At Home Automation Chat Rooms (http://bdshost.com/ac/)
as well as Yahoo until "Home Automation Chat Rooms" takes off!
Nice work  KDR! ;)
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on June 13, 2007, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: Tuicemen on June 13, 2007, 11:48:29 AM
Nice work  KDR! ;)
Hear hear!   ;D
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: HA Dave on June 14, 2007, 05:20:10 PM
Quote from: Tuicemen on June 13, 2007, 11:48:29 AM
Nice work  KDR! ;)

I agree completely! The chatroom is awesome! More users should drop in. 
Title: Re: Should the Chat room be brought back online full time?
Post by: KDR on June 24, 2007, 04:14:09 PM
Well all our efforts to get Yahoo to create a Home Automation room has fallen to the wayside. Isn't going to happen.

I have created a web page with a Home Automation Chat room. Feel free to stop over and visit any time. You must have Java installed on your computer to use the chat room. It is a great place to get answers right away or just to chat with other members. You can find us at...

http://bdshost.com/ac/  (http://bdshost.com/ac/)

You can find KDR, -Bill- (of wgjohns.com), Dave_X10_L and/or Tuicemen in chat at any given time. Drop in and join us or create your own room if you like. All of us would like to say thanks to those who have stopped in already and we invite you back any time.

(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)---(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)---(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)---(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)---(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)----KDR