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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => ActiveHome Pro General => Topic started by: jp2510 on May 23, 2005, 02:17:48 PM
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Yes that certainly was the point of this <BR>thread - to help myself & others make an <BR>informed decision and not necessarily to <BR>bash X10 - they have many fine products. <BR> <BR>Without research where would civilisation be? <BR> <BR>Now back to the original point: <BR> <BR>Comparison................ <BR>
Finally time to dive in? [1 of 5] (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=4310.msg31607#msg31607)
Re: Finally time to dive in? [2 of 5] (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12307.msg31669#msg31669)
Re: Finally time to dive in? [3 of 5] (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12308.msg31721#msg31721)
Re: Finally time to dive in? [5 of 5] (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12310.msg31811#msg31811)
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I think they created these forums so
everyone can fix problems without bugging
them on the phone. Anyone want to buy a
CM15A, cheap backup box with the same
problems you may have with your existing
box.
<User name edited by X10>
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X10 deserves all the bashing they can get.
They continue to sell a bad product to
unsuspecting people that just want to make
their homes a little more comfy. If they
had any decency they would have halted
production, pending repairs and they would
recall all the bad machines they already
shipped. They could have done all that
but hey, they would have lost some money,
they decided to just let the issue blow
over, anyone up for ripping everything out
just to send a faulty unit & software
back. Smart $$$$$ decision X10, but shame
on you for being so corrupt.
<User name edited by X10>
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I have read almost every post on this and
numerous other threads of X10 forums. Yes,
the initial post was seeking inputs. There
were both bad and good suggestions, then the
inputs were choked off by a couple
individuals just having personal tantrums.
Some people are able to reliably use their
AHP setups and try to make suggestions.
If you gotta complain, do it and be heard in
a few posts but don't keep going on and on.
I want to learn from the people that are
making it work, not by people that cant
accept that others may be smart enough to
solve their setup problems so they spam the
board just as bad as X10 markets at every
chance.
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You need a brain DWD, go read other posts
if you can't take the truth....
<User name edited by X10>
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I think we are seeing a bubble of
frustration finally coming out, I'd bet
this rash of bashing will subside as those
burnt move on. Some of it's healthy. So
those that do not want to hear it, stop
reading for a bit, let the tide go out. I
hope X10 takes some (just a little maybe)
of this to heart because I'm sure they
could learn and maybe improve a tiny bit?
Hard to do I guess when you get hit with a
bazooka.
<User name edited by X10>
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Basher,
My Ex would agree with you.
For your info though, I have my AHP working
with well over 60 modules and probably just
as many macros. I also have the SH
controller but prefer the CM15A for ease of
programming, dusk/dawn, and translation of
my older AH files.
Once you get your AHP working, it is nicer
than the SH product in my opinion. I found
to get the CM15 to work, your setup had to
be much cleaner than that tolerated by the
CM11 or SH. But those of us that got it to
work aren't as smart as you bashers.
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I had mine working very well also but had
just had it when the latest problem
surfaced, service people drove me nuts and
the forums were useless in finding a
solution. I have had the opposite
reaction, SH product is easier to use and
the software is better than the cute one
AHP built. Let's talk in six months and
share success stories between X10 and
SmartHome. hope your home stays out of the
dark.
<User name edited by X10>
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Wow Hope, you must have gotten it right,
sure got quiet on this post. Thanks, even
I will calm down for a while.
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Dump the CM15A and AHP software, buy a real
system, buy SmartHome's products.
<User name edited by X10>
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We need to start a forum for spouses to
voice issues with our husbands working
their butts off trying to make this product
work. I want my spouse back, I want the
house lighting automated, my friends have
husbands that spent a few extra bucks and
installed a better system. I'm listening
to some of the forum chatter and agree with
some, it's time to move onto a product that
works. Hope you read this Hubby!
<User name edited by X10>
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Just an FYI here, I changed the user names on
a bunch of posts here because they were all
from the same person. We don't mind
criticism, but we think it's important when
sharing information that other people who
read these forums be able to know who's
posting what.
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The saga continues. Michael, I've told
you repeatedly that there has not been a
change on my end !!!! I disabled my router
and Visrus software firewalls. I turned
them off.... Please listen to me.
And for those of you that believe X10 does
not police / edit the responses on their
forums, you are misguided. Latest section
of email from Michael of X10:
"Just so you know, I changed the user name
on some of your posts on the forums. We
don't mind criticism, but we think it's not
fair for other users not to know when some
replies to a post they made themselves, and
so on.
Michael, how pathetic, I'm a paying
customer, I have a right post things on the
forum, even if you don't like them.
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X10 Pro,
Thanks for exposing the reality I
suspected. You do a great job always being
positive while dealing with people. A lot
of Users appreciate your efforts and the
fixes that X10 has prepared when we
encounter problems.
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dwd - You are a royal suck-up.
<User name edited by X10>
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So much for open forums without
censorship. Gets hot and the weak can't
take it.
<User name edited by X10>
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What a real brainy character this DWD
is, "The reality he suspected". My
goddness, where do these creeps hail
from? We live on the same planet with
these guys that have nothing to do other
than play with their dying hardware and
suck up to a company like X10. Time for
one of the last brains to leave, I'm outa
here. This X10 company and their pathetic
following has been a drag for too long.
They found too many posts from someone that
Mr. Smart thought all along? Geeeeeeez.
<User name edited by X10>
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Holy Cow, now they are identifying folks
via cookies?
<User name edited by X10>
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Hey Bob - if you have a problem with owning
up to a post then DON'T POST - it's as
simple as that.
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I wonder if "BOB TAYLOR" has a vested
interest in sending people to Smarthome and
the 1132CU, since he seems to have a lot of
problems with people who really want help
and will work to find solutions for thier
problems.
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X10Pro, do us all a favor here and kill this
thread. It has degenerated to a point where
it is not productive or usefull.
Joe
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Rather than kill it can we please please
(please) get back to the issue.
It seems like the vast majority (at least of
those on the forum) would deem AHP not quite
ready for prime-time. But what about the
CUP? Does it have many short falls compared
with a working version of AHP? How about
it's strengths? Is there any point in
holding off for a feasible version of AHP?
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JP2510
It all depends on your needs, 1132CUP
software “look and feel” is different but
it works. I wanted just to control some
lights with motion detector, different
levels of dimming at night, and had to be
reliable and work disconnected from the
computer. I did not encounter any problems,
I like the smart macros, the clock is rock
stable. Basically initially I had the same
setup I had with AHP, everything has worked
as expected; with AHP I could go no more
that 1 day or 2 before resetting and to me
it’s not acceptable; I had no problems with
tech support I used email to communicate.
At the end depends on you needs as a buyer
you should chose the products that does
serve your need, keep in mind X10 has the
lowest prices in the industry, you can not
expect to have the same features an
reliability of a higher end product at
these prices.
The CM15a + AHP is to flaky but it’s not a
secret; if you want the same functionality
with other products you need to invest
significant more money.
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JP2510 - I didn't want to touch this
thread - but OK - to your direct question:
As a former AHP user - I can share my
personal experience with the "CUP":
1) Very, very, very reliable - My program
is downloaded/disconnected. Mine was
bought in December last year. I have not
had the reported time keeping issues(units
mfr'd before October last year-old v5.12).
2) Loads of capability re:macros (only
with "Plus" software-"Essential" is like
AHP without smart macros, or may be even
less capable)
3) Software is fairly easy to learn, very
capable-less pictures/pretty
3) NO RF capability - needs TM751/RR501 or
V572AB used in combination.
4) No cameras or AHP's TM751 RF hopping
feature.
5) May be replaced/augmented by "Insteon"
version in near future (don't know this-
just guessing)
6) My experience with AHP was tragic from a
reliability perspective - but I gave up on
it many months ago, so I can't comment on
its current viability.
7) And the most important question - would
I buy it again??.....YES.
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Joe S/Carmine
Thank you both. Two of only a handful who
have spelled it out.
(Not that i am ugrateful for everyones
comments)