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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => ActiveHome Pro General => Topic started by: dave w on May 24, 2005, 01:03:15 PM
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"Bob Taylor" said: <BR>"Michael, how pathetic, I'm a paying <BR>customer, I have a right post things on the <BR>forum, even if you don't like them." <BR> <BR>No sir, you do not. You do not have the <BR>right to decieve us all by pretending to a <BR>hugh number of different people, all with <BR>negative comments and different problems. <BR> <BR>In my view your credibity is zip. <BR> <BR>Thank you X10!!!
Finally time to dive in? [1 of 5] (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=4310.msg31607#msg31607)
Re: Finally time to dive in? [2 of 5] (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12307.msg31669#msg31669)
Re: Finally time to dive in? [3 of 5] (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12308.msg31721#msg31721)
Re: Finally time to dive in? [4 of 5] (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12309.msg31772#msg31772)
[TTA Edit: Experiment to determine whether or not SPLITTING 'Highly-Viewed' / 'Highly-Replied' but currently INACTIVE threads from LONG, LONG AGO (I'm starting with ~2 years) into parts will allow current ACTIVE threads to appear in the Top 10 Topics (by Replies) section of the Statistics Center (aka More Stats) (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?action=stats) Page.
NOTE: I *WILL* address the <BR> problem...]
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Ok so now X10 is everyones hero? I'd be
more worried about what else they do with
the data they collect from you behind the
scenes. And because X10 does not like a
flury of comments, they decide to change
names on those comments to someone who has
been verbal? Sure glad people like you
Dave W are not in charge of our judicial
process. You might want to think a bit
before opening your mouth and flaunting
your ignorance to the whole world.
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"You might want to think a bit before
opening your mouth and flaunting your
ignorance to the whole world."
You state it very nice.
PS. I couldn't help but chuckle.
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Isn’t it amazing how when serious product
deficiencies are defined up jumps someone
with a “personal trash mouth” and changes it
to a flame contest… and then objects and
complains? Whom are they working for?
I and a few of my friend have participated
in these forums and at times in my office,
each had something to say and they did so
under their forum nickname from MY
COMPUTER. Does that make my friends and
their opinions irrelevant?
I think facts talk and BS walks. Has anyone
seen specifications on the AHP CM15A? What
is the RF Range for transmission, and for
reception? What is the PLC performance as
to coincidence resolution, message
buffering, maximum rate of service for RF
demand rate. Theoretic capacity to process
and service vs saturation rate?
HAS ANYONE SEEN TECHNICAL SPECS? HOW DO
YOU DETERMINE DEFECTIVE?
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RF range issues are hard to call a "defect"
because the issue is quite grey, as FBEYE
points out - is 10' adequate, or 100'?
However, when a very simply command such
as "turn light on at 10:00pm everyday" works
for a couple of days, then stops working
permanently, and no other commands, motion
sensors, etc, are in the mix, most
reasonable people would say the CM15A is not
working properly. I certainly cannot say
whether this is h/w or s/w, but even without
seeing official specs, the unit is broken.
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I have all the schematic and key component
data sheets in the link below.
Anyone with technical background can draw
his or her own conclusions.
Here is my own:
Due to a hardware bug in the micro-
controller used, GPIO can not be used(X10
confirmed this, they are not using GPIO), a
new version of the chip “Encore II” it’s
not backward compatible. The external
memory used to store macros, is 2 wire
serial interface(I2C), the Encore chip does
not have a hardware I2C, this means all
external memory read must be done bit-
banged, the RF receiver needs to be polled
and the PLC interface is else polled. There
is no way that this processor can possibly
receive an RF signal while is transmitting
PLC commands; in one of my test while the
CM15a was sending a series of Dim commands
I send an RF signal via palm remote, it
crashed every time. In some application it
may barely work and could be satisfactory
to some customers, but any one that uses
complex macros + RF ( motion detector
etc..) he or she will have problems. Now
for the hopeful if you have a TM751 or an
RR501, try holding the palm remote dim
button, both transceiver will lock up and
need to be unplugged to reset them; in
order to fix the transceivers (RR501 and
TM751) a simple activation of the built in
Watch-Dog timer will fix them (a very
simple firmware changes); if X10 never
fixed the RR501 and the TM751 (practically
a no cost fix) does anybody believes that
X10 will fix the hardware and than be
forced to recall all CM15a?
http://members.shaw.ca/cm15a-
info\CM15aSchematic.zip
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Carmine, your explanation makes sense to
explain why the Cm15A can't handle multiple
activity at once, but any idea why a unit
would work fine for a couple of days, then
fail miserable, even when only executing
simpole commands and timers, and no RF or
motion detectors?
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Arf1410
This is pure speculation:
The Encore micro-controller has 255 bytes
of memory, some is reserved for USB, during
macro execution, the possibility of a stack
overflow exist; if a stack overflow occurs
the memory keeping track of the clock gets
corrupt (clock is software based), any
macros requiring the clock( timers etc..)
will not work.
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Well my CUP arrived this week, and it seems
AHP isnt the only device with problems.
My CUP completely ignores which day of the
week it is and consequently is running
various routines despite the fact that they
were only set to occur on Saturday. Just my
luck to get a dud. Long weekend so tech
support will have to wait.
After just playing around briefly with the
setup, there are glaring problems with the
program.
Straight forward timers are ackward and
time consuming to set up (unlike the CM11a
days).
Additionally, the 'highest level' "IF"
condition cannot be a day of the week -
only a time or an event (i.e. A1 is ON).
This is a great hinderence to setting up
multiple events at different times on the
same day.
I guess it's not all roses on the other
side....
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JP,
I have the CUP and I don't see a problem
with setting up multiple events at
different times on the same day. It is
probably just as much work to create 3
different Macros on the same day at
different times in AHP, I am not familar
with the programming for the CM11A.
T.
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JP2510 - Hopefully you're experiencing a lack
of familiarity vs. a "dud" (but anything is
possible I suppose).
There is a Smarthome forum and user group
over at:
http://www.accessx10.com/ - who should be
able to help with issues/questions.
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Joe - thanks for the link. Of course i am
unfamiliar with the style and hope thats
all it is, but it seems i do have the logic
correct for this routine judging by the
manual. Have to see what i can find over at
www.accessx10.com
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I got Lights now, took good advice from the
forums and dumped the CM15A & AHP doggie
software. What a thrill using SmartHome
products, they actualy work as advertised!
Thanks BT.
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I agree, these guys are shameless in their
selling practices, hardware sucks, software
is not worth the download time.
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BT, aka Bob Talor,
I don't know what you're problem is, but I
bet it's hard to pronounce.
You're incompetence is an inspiration to
morons everywhere.
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DWD
Classic, I darn near wet my pants. Thank you!
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Well my odd porblem with the CUP was solved
by the folks over at accessX10 (Thanks Joe i
know you're around here too).
So i'm afraid i'm pretty much sold with this
software. It seems pretty capable, though
some macros are annoying in the way they are
set up, I have been able to accomplish
everything i wanted so far.
One day i hope to come back to, say, AHP
3.0. Guess i'll just have to wait and see...
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Glad to hear that your "conditional" in your
"CUP" now works. If you have any other
questions - you know where we are. Good luck!
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6 months on from the last post here - any
thoughts now from those who have stuck with
it? Is it viable yet?
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seems to be running a little better - but
still too many bugs - not sure if its h/w,
s/w, or general X10 limitation - likely all
three. System is great as a hobby, but for
someone who simply wanted a trouble free,
zero maintenance working system, its hard
to recommend it