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Title: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Edward222 on October 31, 2007, 03:49:55 PM
I don't know if this has been addressed before, or if it is a popular subject.  But I would like to give my thoughts and see what others think.

It concerns the X-10.com web site.  I can understand them using attractive women to sell their products since their product audience is mainly young men.  However, as a married man and a christian, I would rather not open a daily email to see several skimpy dressed women, nor would I want my wife to see these emails. I am not just being a prude, I  am tempted by young attractive women just as much as any other man, but since the emails come daily I would rather not be bombarded with opportunities to lust.  Nor would I want my wife to open one of theses emails and think I am hooked on porn or something.  Isn't there another way to sell theses products?  Perhaps cute animals?  (Just kidding about the animals)  The use of a few attractive women would be ok I guess, but the excessive use of cleavage and bikinis is not really necessary. 

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: steven r on October 31, 2007, 04:22:33 PM
It's a fact of life that sex is a part of advertising. In most European countries there is far more than in the US. For me the models on the X10 ads are far less than offensive than pop ups or someone yelling "boo" at me when I log in.

One of the great things about the United States is it's freedom of religion. This gives you the right to have your own opinions and beliefs. When your beliefs differ from the majority of others, however, it's your responsibility to adapt. I'd suggest opting out of the emails and only go to the X10 site when needed. If your faith is strong, the temptation won't be a problem.
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Edward222 on October 31, 2007, 04:31:23 PM
I called X10 to place another order and mentioned my comment to the man that took my order.  He completely understood and told me he gets the same comment at least 3-4 times a day.  So I may not be alone.  If I am the only one then yes I should just stop the emails.  I do purchase allot however and the emails sales are the driving factor so it would just be their loss.  I am only one person though and hardly significant to matter.  I just wondered if there are any others out there.  Are there any women on this forum?  How do they feel?

Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: HA Dave on October 31, 2007, 04:49:25 PM

I don't know if this has been addressed before........................... I can understand them using attractive women to sell their products


Yeah it gets mentioned every now-and-then.

All my family, wife, mom, and grown-kids know I shop at X10's Site... and spend time at the forum. They all also know what the Site looks like. The current state of marketing and sales (world-wide) is more-or-less sex based (you should see the commericals on my TV). It's a shame, but a fact of life. X10 uses lot of hype, gletter and flash on their Site but it works for them.

Being an old retired guy... I haven't experienced any lust when viewing the X10 Site. Also... Being an old retired guy I know... lust is where you find it... it doesn't reside anywhere.

Did you know.... you can turn HTML images OFF?
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: KDR on October 31, 2007, 05:59:30 PM
I will say this.... I think it has toned down some from about this time last year.  So with that said X10 is trying to keep some glamor girls while not showing the same content as a year ago.

(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)---(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)---(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)---(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)---(http://www.bdshost.com/X10/lpup.gif)----KDR
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Brian H on October 31, 2007, 07:17:10 PM
Yes it is toned down from what I remember from years ago.
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: HA Dave on October 31, 2007, 07:45:34 PM
I will say this.... I think it has toned down some from about this time last year. 

Well.... there is always YouTube!
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Walt2 on October 31, 2007, 07:52:22 PM
However, as a married man and a christian, I would rather not open a daily email to see several skimpy dressed women, nor would I want my wife to see these emails.

Unsubscribe to the emails?

"You may opt-out of receiving future emails or e-mail promotions by sending e-mail to remove@mail.x10.com. Place "remove" in the subject line, followed by the exact e-mail address you wish to be removed. We will remove this address from our list. If you choose to opt-out of future email, X10 is obligated by federal law to circulate your email address to other list owners with whom X10 places advertisements. Please be aware that while the intention is to remove your email address from receiving X10 emails, X10 cannot guarantee how your email address will be used by any outside party. Please allow 2 business days to be removed from the list. "
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Walt2 on October 31, 2007, 07:55:05 PM
Nor would I want my wife to open one of theses emails and think I am hooked on porn or something.  Isn't there another way to sell theses products?  Perhaps cute animals?  (Just kidding about the animals) 

Skimpily clad guys?   :o
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: HA Dave on October 31, 2007, 08:23:20 PM
Maybe there is room for change.....
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: John026 on November 01, 2007, 10:29:32 AM
Dave, you have my vote for "Funniest Pic Award" absolutely Hillarious  ;D
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Edward222 on November 01, 2007, 10:32:58 AM
Dave, great picture, very funny.

Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: dave w on November 01, 2007, 11:52:39 AM
Good marketing practice used to dictate that the product associated picture, would relate to the product or the product's use in some way.

X10 wastes a lot of valuable space on totally unrelated bimbo pix. So obviously the X10 marketing VP doesn't agree. However, I figure he has only been out of high school a year or so...
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: steven r on November 01, 2007, 01:54:05 PM
Maybe there is room for change.....
Great spoof!
I was going to tell you on the chat last night but you had already called it an evening.
Photoshop or did you get a few of the girlfriends to pose for the picture?  ;)
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: HA Dave on November 01, 2007, 03:04:53 PM

Photoshop or did you get a few of the girlfriends to pose for the picture?  ;)


Absolutely a photoshop (happily married man here). I enjoy creating images for fun.. and make a point to never deceive with them. I hope others also enjoyed the (intended) humor (it was halloween).
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: unofornaio on November 11, 2007, 03:34:25 PM
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I am not just being a prude, I  am tempted by young attractive women just as much as any other man, but since the emails come daily I would rather not be bombarded with opportunities to lust.

<So don't open them. ::). How in the world is it x10 or any others companies responsibility to sanitize their environment so people like you don't get offended?? As a frequent traveler to Europe I can assure you human sexuality is expressed at an exponential rate compared to here yet they don't have the rape and sexual crime issues we have in this country..why? In my opinion we (Europeans) are not brought up in the mind set that many Americans are where sex and the human body is EVIL.. Sex is natural and the human body is a beautiful thing. (OK some more beautiful than others)

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Nor would I want my wife to open one of theses emails and think I am hooked on porn or something.  Isn't there another way to sell theses products?

< Dude if she would think this it sounds like its time to go to some relationship classes..

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The use of a few attractive women would be OK I guess, but the excessive use of cleavage and bikinis is not really necessary.
< Well when you buy 51 percent of their stock you can dress them anyway you want to. 

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So I may not be alone.  If I am the only one then yes I should just stop the emails.
< And if you are not what?...you are going to start a personal crusade to change x10's advertising practices? Then what next a campaign to have all the bikini manufactures stop production...then a campaign to have all women on the streets wear pants and long sleeve shirts..then have the grocery store put all the liqueur enclosed in cabinets so people cant see it and be tempted.. give me a break..

I think Dave inadvertently hit it on the head with his picture...and his comment "lust is where you find it... it doesn't reside anywhere"

As a Roman Catholic man, Sounds to me like you need to take responsibility for your OWN thoughts..as we ALL on this planet should do, that is the Christian way.


Just my opinion...Is it OK that I have one even though It doesn't coinside with yours?



Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Nena on November 11, 2007, 07:48:10 PM
I agree that the models are not necessary. Actually they seem to illude the the idea of using the cameras for porn shots. (Yeah, I know, the girls have "clothes" on)  That's why I said it "ILLUDES to the IDEA."
And for those of you who say "unsubscribe to the email, I don't know where you got the idea that those pics come in the email.  They are on the website.
So you say, "don't use the website?"  Uh.....sure, we won't shop, or buy cameras, or protect our houses, or watch TV or go online..... because we don't like the ^%*_)(  that's shoved in our faces in the name of "marketing."
People say sex sells. Yeah, I guess it does. But it's not necessary, and I believe it is more detrimental than beneficial to most businesses.
If you want sex you can get it without exposing it to everyone. 
To those of us who have enough of it in private, it's just a pitiful attempt to wipe out morals.
To the man who started this post, Hoorayyyyyyyyyy for you!
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Nena on November 11, 2007, 07:55:36 PM
"...........BIMBO PIX!............"

Hhahaha!  I LOVE it!
good name for them.
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Nena on November 11, 2007, 08:12:02 PM
the X10 ads are far less than offensive than pop ups or someone yelling "boo" at me when I log in


Can we say, "Pop-up Blocker????

When your beliefs differ from the majority of others, however, it's your responsibility to adapt.

Did you take a poll? Or maybe you could just quote the source of the research that proves the majority prefers this type of advertising[/size

".....I'd suggest opting out of the emails and only go to the X10 site when needed...."

Oops, sorry I didn't realize the original poster said the did come in emails.  ;D   
Okay, so only go to the x10 site "when needed."  I guess the "when needed" shopping sessions don't have the bimbo pix?  Or do you mean he should go to the site "when" he "needs" to look at bimbo pics?

"..... If your faith is strong, the temptation won't be a problem...." 
That proves you haven't a clue what faith is
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: unofornaio on November 11, 2007, 10:10:47 PM
I realize my initial response my not be in the spirit of "community" but the attitude, arrogance is really what it is, that irks me about this is people (in general ;D) that want to change "my world" simply because they have a different view point. We have all seen the effects of this in our school system, our jobs, our court system and many other areas. Somebody gets a hair up their butt then crusades to change it so everyone has to encounter the SAME THING.. These same people expect companies and government to take away all the "BAD" influences in the community so their children don't get exposed to alcohol or bad language or bad neighborhoods or what ever NORMAL variations their are that make the world go round. I may be crazy but I would not want to live in a world where everything is GREY or like wise black and white according to one group of people.. I mean isn't that what started this country, peoples desire to not live under a dictatorship?
As a parent I actually raised my daughter to take responsibility for these things in our home..I don't expect her school or employer or the city counsel or the local or federal government to do it for me. That's part of the problem these people are so busy trying to police everyone they are not taking care of business right in their OWN home. Which is where all this crap belongs.   

Seriously though I mean where does this type of thinking end, lets see there is a adult store on my way to work and when I drive by it I'm tempted..hmmm let me think about this..lets see,.. change my route if it bothers me or start a petition in the community to have it shut down.. Lets go one further and more general...I get fat when I eat at McDonald's to much but there is one just down the street from me...hmmm maybe I should ask them, out of arrogance, to change the way they do business because I don't have the self control to eat 2 double cheeseburgers instead of 4 or 5. Next on to the grocery store.."hey! you guys are gonna have to do something about this god for saken bakery, I mean seriously, every time I come in here and smell baked goods I'm tempted to eat some, what the h#$@ are you trying to do?"

And how about closer to home; Tuicemen...um seriously dude I'm really trying to loose weight could you please change your avatar because every time I see it I am really tempted to eat a handfull of M-n-M's...Please?.. (that's a joke)

OK I think that did it for me its out of my system..It just really struck a nerve with me (obviously) My point is that on the other side of the argument, any argument, is someone that has just as much right to have their opinion as you do and its just as important as yours and that is the true spirit of community.   
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: -Bill- (of wgjohns.com) on November 11, 2007, 10:48:41 PM
This whole thread brings to mind an old saying about never discussing religion or politics with friends.    ;)   :D
Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: Boiler on November 11, 2007, 11:28:37 PM
When did "General Discussion" become "personal attacks" ?

There have been a number of personal opinions expressed in this thread.  I take them for exactly what they are, opinions.  As has been stated, each person has a right to express his/her opinion.  I had thought that forum etiquette (also pointed out previously) precluded ridiculing a poster for his/her opinion.  Obviously I was incorrect.

The original poster had an opinion, and acted on it by voicing his displeasure directly to X10.  Whether I agree with his opinion or not, I have to respect him for acting.  As my "mentor" once told me, revealing a problem without a solution or follow up action is just whining (he used a different word, but you get the point).

In the final analysis the X10 site, while it may be offensive to some, is well within it's rights to display the material in question.  On the other hand, we have forum members taking shots at one another regarding that material.  Granted I'm an old p%art, but aren't personal attacks  worse?

As a side note - has anyone noticed the number of "views" for this thread.  When I started this reply it was at 453.  I just checked and it's at 486.  Seems a bit high for normal "forum traffic...Since the title is searchable through the web, I'd suggest changing it to "X10 website objections" to reduce the load on the server. 

Can't we all play nice and respect each other?
Boiler



Title: Re: Skimpy Dressed Models on web site
Post by: KDR on November 12, 2007, 05:40:29 AM
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