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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => SDK => Third Party Add-Ons & Software => Topic started by: aftermarket on January 28, 2009, 05:43:43 PM
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hey!!
just seen the bvc program for x10 and thought i'd give it a go, looks amazing! Just running the trial version untill i can get it working properly. I'm running vista and cm15. when i start bvc it comes up with a message stating that active home pro is not running. But it is!! then it comes up with can not load speech recongnition grammer then closes. can you help??? thanks
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We have ran in to this before...what vista you running? and is your AHP 3.236
If its Vista 64 I think they never got it running right. They downgraded to another version of windows.
Could also try down grading your AHP back to the 3.204 version and then hit the upgrade button to take it to 3.228. These versions of AHP are alittle less buggy then the newer one 3.326
I'm sure the others will post in a bit... maybe I AM forgetting something
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... maybe I AM forgetting something
I think your memory is better than mine!
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i'm running the 3226 version
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is that 3.228 or 3.236? there isn't a 3.226 that I know of......... what version of Vista and is it 32 or 64?
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3.226 and vista 32
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You need to downgrade to AHP 3.204 here is the link:
http://software.x10.com/pub/applications/activehome/ the file is named ahp_updt_204.exe
Install it over the 3.236 you have then when you open AHP 3.204 go to the help menu and Click update....... This will give you version
3.228 and should work
There is also a forum just for BVC at www.wgjohns.com
Here is a link to the other poster that had the same problem.
http://www.wgjohns.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=136&highlight=
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thanks for the help i'll give it a go in the morning and let you know
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Save you AHP file to open it in the older/newer AHP
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OK the problem was with vista speech recognition not being set up. As long as its running i am able to open bvc. The next problem is the fact that the computer wont even acknowledge me. The speech recognition works well in vista however bvc struggles. I have managed to once get it to understand me. vista's speech recognition has to be open at the same time. Am i doing something else wrong?
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From what I understand Vista speech recognition has to be running at the same time! A windows thing not a BVC issue.
The Same is for windows 7 but it plays very well with BVC in my tests!
>!
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i dont understand it at all then. i can control vista very well. however when it comes to vbc i'm unable to even get the acknowledge beep when i say computer. i'm plugging the mic into the mic in on the sound card
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Is the mic unmuted in BVC? and have you ran the mic setup in BVC?
What does the mic bar show in BVC is it all lite up or off....... can you see it move at all when you talk
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yes the mic is unmutted and when i talk i can see the mic bar move. i have also run the mic setup within bvc. when it errors it either say mic too loud or too quite. i really want to get this working
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Did you do the downgrade to AHP 3.204 then to 3.228... That way we know for sures its not AHP 3.236 BVC and Vista fighting each other?
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i did the downgrade but it was the american version which started asking for serial codes. do you have a link for the uk version downgrade? another thing is when bvc is listenning so is the vista speech and alsorts start going on!!
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Oh did know you were using the UK version... Sorry
Have you adjusted the mic vol. in vista volume control also... Can you set up a listener in BVC to say something when X10 sends a signal.....For a test just Set it up so P1 from ahp will make bvc sayI hear P1 you will have to set up a module in AHP called P1 just to test... this will let us know if AHP and BVC is talking that way...
Now you mic setup. I'm wondering Have you tried adjusting the mic volume with vistas volume control too and make sure your mic isn't close to your computer speakers
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i have managed to set up a listen command similar to what you have said for my cinema room. when i press a1 on an x10 remote bvc annouces cinema room lights on. So it seems they are talking to each other.
the speakers are about 2 meters from the mic and i have gone into the mic setup and tried lowering the mic volume however this has not seemed to work either. any other ideas?
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Wonder where are you from? have you tried changing the word from computer to something else. maybe it just dont understand you
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lol from the uk. it is wierd as vista understands me fully. i'll try turning the sound down even further when i get back home and let you know when the results are. thanks so far though
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i have managed to set up a listen command similar to what you have said for my cinema room. when i press a1 on an x10 remote bvc annouces cinema room lights on. So it seems they are talking to each other.
the speakers are about 2 meters from the mic and i have gone into the mic setup and tried lowering the mic volume however this has not seemed to work either. any other ideas?
Ok... you need to "mute the microphone" (that is a check setting). Mute [in this case] doesn't mean the the microphone won't be heard... it means it will not be played over the speakers.
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AHHH forgot that ...yea mute it in the vista volume control not in BVC...
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... it is wierd as vista understands me fully.
Do the microphone setup through BVC. BVC uses the same speech engine (Microsoft's) and should be understanding you equally well.
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ok been trying a few other things today, here we go....i noticed when i set the mic up it always says that the computer doesn't hear me fully. This might be why its not working!! commanding vista works a treat however i opened word up to give that a go speaking to it, and guess what!! it didn't work one bit. this is leading me to believe that the mic i have bought isn't good enough. whats your thoughts on this?
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..... this is leading me to believe that the mic i have bought isn't good enough. whats your thoughts on this?
The "microphone" setup is troublesome in all setups. It will need to be reset every day because of the auto-gain associated with microphones.
I use the "Line-in" setup! This eliminates the audio auto-gain you will get from the "microphone" setup. Of course... you can't use a regular mic in the line-in... it needs to be a powered device of some sort.
I have an old post that details some of the setup (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=12202.msg67395#msg67395).
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ok been trying a few other things today, here we go....i noticed when i set the mic up it always says that the computer doesn't hear me fully. This might be why its not working!! commanding vista works a treat however i opened word up to give that a go speaking to it, and guess what!! it didn't work one bit. this is leading me to believe that the mic i have bought isn't good enough. whats your thoughts on this?
What version of Office? I have read that Office 2007 doesn't support VR for some dumb reason.
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i'm going mad!!! i've now bought a logitech usb digital mic and the bvc still wont respond to the computer phrase. I can still control vista ok ish. any ideas? thanks
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i'm going mad!!! i've now bought a logitech usb digital mic and the bvc still wont respond to the computer phrase. I can still control vista ok ish. any ideas? thanks
I run an old P3 with XP for my setup. BUT.. I also run a copy of BVC on my Vista laptop just for testing and such. It works fine for me... but I don't have a fancy USB Mic ether.
I use line-in... soundcard: amplified audio device/line-in. That way once I get the audio set/configured correctly... it stays there. With a microphone [microphone in the mic input] your going to need to go through your microphone setup all the time
Re-do you microphone setup from your control panel. Then when VR is running you should see it on your screen/monitor.... note the pop-up "listening" monitor in the picture.
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i see the vr box and it does say listening however i noticed with the new mic that it picks up everything and vista starts going mad opening loads of things. Maybe i should try it on my old xp laptop?
i'm almost considering having a keypad in each room that would turn the power on to the devices then use the ir control from bvc to get the items to the right channels. whats your thoughts on using it that way?
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i see the vr box and it does say listening however i noticed with the new mic that it picks up everything and vista starts going mad opening loads of things. Maybe i should try it on my old xp laptop?
Sounds like you have the most comman of problems... too much volume. Like being at a noisy party... it isn't easy to understand what is being said. It is best for VR if the computer can barely hear you.
I'm almost considering having a keypad in each room that would turn the power on to the devices then use the Ir control from bvc to get the items to the right channels. whats your thoughts on using it that way?
I am not sure I follow... I've only just recently used the IR feature to control anything. And although I can Voice Command the cameras On... it is rare that I do. I have a perimiter detection system/setup that turns cameras and a TV/Display on for me... as needed.
I use X10 to turn my baby monitors on and off... I see no reason for them to be on.. if I'm not available. My BVC runs 24/7... I love the information as well as automation BVC (and AHP) provides. I really don't like remotes so much... and that's a great part about BVC. I do have a ICON (X10 Beta) next to my easy chair... with it and BVC.. my home is on remote control.
I do use an Infrared Mini-Controller (IR543) (http://www.x10.com/automation/x10_ir543.htm) in my Home Theater (http://davesdomainonline.com/ht/ht.htm) so as I can control my X10 lighting with my Logitech/Harmony Remote.
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ok not able to get vocie rec working so i'm going to drop using that feature however i'm still interested in bvc as it can control my ir devices. I have microsoft usb ir device to control media center am i able to use this to program bvc or do i need to buy the usbir device i've seen? thanks
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ok not able to get vocie rec working so i'm going to drop using that feature however i'm still interested in bvc as it can control my ir devices. I have microsoft usb ir device to control media center am i able to use this to program bvc or do i need to buy the usbir device i've seen? thanks
First, I'm sorry to hear you're having so much trouble with the Voice Recognition. ???
Second, the only IR interface BVC supports at present is the USB-UIRT, as shown on my BVC web page (http://www.wgjohns.com/bvc.htm).
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ok thanks for letting me know it only work with the usb-ir device. since i cant get it fully working and would like to use the bits that work what do you think would be a reasonable price for a donation to get the full verson?
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.... since i cant get it fully working
Getting the microphone properly setup has always been the challenge for all "Voice Controlled" setups. In the "early days" of what was then BXVC (X for X10) most the the BXVC thread (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=13387.345) dealt with microphone setup. My own BVC Fan Site (http://davesdomainonline.com/bvc/bvc.htm) began as a way for me to share my cheap-N-easy Baby-Monitor Microphone Setup (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=12202.msg67395#msg67395) and my own experiences (http://davesdomainonline.com/microphone/mystory) with setting it up.
I guess after more than a couple years of running BVC 24/7 I now spend more time looking for new uses, or new ways to use Voice Control or BVC in general.
I am sorry if I seem to have forgotten about some of the frustrations of ANY Home Automation setup. Trust me I haven't forgot how "alone out there" it can feel when setting up these systems. Most week-nights several of us stop in at KDR's Home Automation Chat (Room) (http://bdshost.com/ac/). Any of us would be happy to work with you to get your setup up and running (BVC or not). I try to regularly post information... as well as sprinkle links to more info throughout my posts.
I promise to work on a video about microphone setup... to add to my YouTube collection (http://www.youtube.com/suitmanIM). Meanwhile your welcome to join us at KDR's Chat or drop me a PM. Remember.... your not really alone with this stuff... theres bunches of us!
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I promise to work on a video about microphone setup... to add to my YouTube collection (http://www.youtube.com/suitmanIM).
I stayed true to my word! Being retired... I was able to devote the entire day into making this PAINFULLY boring microphone setup video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV-lFPvbi5s) (my wife will be so proud).